British TV morning show "This Morning" featuring influencer Pree

[Franz Wuffel]

Hi!

Today on a Telegram channel I learnt about a British TV morning show called "This Morning". Today they featured Pree and her wearing adult nappies and showing them on her social media accounts.

The link is:

Yours,

Franz Wuffel

[toddlerjunior1982]

was going to share this and think it was amazing person to share her expreance 

[spark]

13 hours ago, Jumpin Jack said:

She claims to have ms, i have no way of proving otherwise, it is a easy to fake condition, just grab your self a couple of sticks or a stroller and act a bit crippled. Incontinence in the majority of ms sufferers is usually not so severe as to require maximum protection as in diapers and faecal incontinence is little more prevalent than the population overall. Anyone can get constipation that may cause bowel leakage.

I love how the internet loves to be judgemental of people you have no idea who they are.

You imply that she is faking her condition without a shred of evidence.  It's unethical to make that claim without evidence.  It's definitely wrong to come on three weeks after the initial discussion to make a claim based on an assumption of the symptoms that you think the symptoms that somebody with MS should have.   Are an expert on that condition?  If you are (say somebody who has MS), you failed to share that, and I don't think somebody who has extra knowledge would express that opinion the way that you did.

Maybe your right, FTR- it doesn't matter, because there isn't enough harm in faking that condition.  She faking that she pees her pants?  That's only a plus for a very small segment of the population.  And you wouldn't deserve credit anyway because it was blind-assed guess.  No credit is deserved for that.

On other hand, there is a chance that she is not faking MS.  If that's the case- what you're doing is despicable.  The question is: why?  Do you get some kind of perverse joy out of it?

[DiaperPatrick]

I usually don't weigh in on anything or even comment on this site, but I have been here a long to time. Over 20 years. I don't even go by this username anywhere anymore, but I can't be silent on this one. She does in fact have MS and her YouTube channel wasn't even about diapers or incontinence in the beginning. If you go all the way back to her first videos, none of them were about diapers at all. She was quite literally only talking about the challenges of MS. When she finally made a video about the struggles and shame of having accidents and having to wear diapers that's when she went viral, because we, as a community are a bunch of perverts who will fap to anything that even remotely mentions diapers. Including someone's pain and struggles. However, she was met with a lot of kindness and support from people in our community and while she was not ABDL, she has said that the amount of acceptance was heartwarming and she fully supports our lifestyle and we have helped her to not feel ashamed of her diapers anymore. I'm not sure if she's still claiming to not be an ABDL, but whether she is or isn't does not matter. She not only advocates for the incontinent, but us as well. Now if she had read a lot of negative comments full of judgement and assumptions, she would probably feel even more ashamed and not even confident enough to make any videos regardless of diaper content. So the short of it is, when you assume you make an ass of u and me.

 

Also your argument of bringing something to the public to debunk the stigma is bogus is, in of itself, bogus. That is the only way to get rid of a stigma.

Edited February 27 by DiaperPatrick
Accidentally posted the same paragraph twice in the comment.

[spark]

2 hours ago, DiaperPatrick said:

I usually don't weigh in on anything or even comment on this site, but I have been here a long to time. Over 20 years. I don't even go by this username anywhere anymore, but I can't be silent on this one. She does in fact have MS and her YouTube channel wasn't even about diapers or incontinence in the beginning. If you go all the way back to her first videos, none of them were about diapers at all. She was quite literally only talking about the challenges of MS. When she finally made a video about the struggles and shame of having accidents and having to wear diapers that's when she went viral, because we, as a community are a bunch of perverts who will fap to anything that even remotely mentions diapers. Including someone's pain and struggles. However, she was met with a lot of kindness and support from people in our community and while she was not ABDL, she has said that the amount of acceptance was heartwarming and she fully supports our lifestyle and we have helped her to not feel ashamed of her diapers anymore. I'm not sure if she's still claiming to not be an ABDL, but whether she is or isn't does not matter. She not only advocates for the incontinent, but us as well. Now if she had read a lot of negative comments full of judgement and assumptions, she would probably feel even more ashamed and not even confident enough to make any videos regardless of diaper content. So the short of it is, when you assume you make an ass of u and me.

 

Also your argument of bringing something to the public to debunk the stigma is bogus is, in of itself, bogus. That is the only way to get rid of a stigma.

I've been in this community a long time as well, and we have this self-hating perspective that can be narcissistic.   The whole belief that somebody chooses to fake MS so they can publicly admit that they pee their pants for attention is absurd.

FTR- it's the second time I've made that comment to this video.  In both cases it's from the response "She's doing for attention," complaint.     This one got me worse than first one, because it's so cruel if they were wrong.  You have proof that you're that she isn't faking, which makes the accusation far worse

FTR-@Jumping Jack has only made one post, and it's this was it.  He chose this post which was 22 days after the last post responding to post that was 23 days.  It was the only post @Jumping Jack has ever made

[ValentinesStuff]

18 hours ago, Jumpin Jack said:

Sorry she is just jumping on the abdl bandwagon. 

I was unaware there was an ABDL bandwagon. Who else is on it?

[DiaperPatrick]

Apparently anyone who makes diaper content regardless of it it's kink related or not according to some judgmentally insecure people 🙄.

[~Brian~]

18 hours ago, spark said:

I've been in this community a long time as well, and we have this self-hating perspective that can be narcissistic.   The whole belief that somebody chooses to fake MS so they can publicly admit that they pee their pants for attention is absurd.

FTR- it's the second time I've made that comment to this video.  In both cases it's from the response "She's doing for attention," complaint.     This one got me worse than first one, because it's so cruel if they were wrong.  You have proof that you're that she isn't faking, which makes the accusation far worse

FTR-@Jumping Jack has only made one post, and it's this was it.  He chose this post which was 22 days after the last post responding to post that was 23 days.  It was the only post @Jumping Jack has ever made

I agree with @spark and @DiaperPatrick I saw a post today about someone with MS, asking if what she wanted to do regarding raising awareness about people that are disabled and wear and use diapers:  In One response @munkey posted a YouTube Video featuring Pree:  Who is Incontinent and who has MS, and I watched that video, as well as others on her channel:  I don't believe that she is "faking MS" or anything like that, and she is Deadpan honest about what she is going through:  I doubt that she is doing the channel in support of a "kink lifestyle" and being disabled myself, I can see that she has Canes and what looks like a walker that she is standing behind.  there was a comment that "looking at the comments on her channel videos makes it clear that she is doing this as a kink". I believe that Pree is the "legit article here" and I don't believe that she is only doing this as a "Kink".  She gives good advice for those who are trying to deal with Incontinence, and tells of her struggles.

However that quote was worded:  How can the user who made a comment like that make a statement like that, without knowing that she is disabled?  If the OP that made that comment had to deal with a disabling condition such as CP OR MS, or maybe even ALS:  These can be disabling, as well as to to sometimes be FATAL:  CP is Not, but MS and ALS Can be:  I've had 1 relative die of MS, and My former PCP Died of ALS, and my parents had a friend die of ALS recently and ALS can come on you slowly, then one day, it gets worse faster then expected:  My point here is, that Pree went on "This Morning" and talked about her MS and her Incontinence, and I don't think it's fair to judge her based on a statement that makes assertions that are NOT proven accurate - We cannot deny that she has a disability, and we also cannot deny that she suffers from Incontinence, as I have learned that a disability does NOT need to be "obvious" for someone to be diagnosed with it, as some if us may have hidden disabilities that cannot be seen:  it does NOT mean that someone DOES NOT have a disability:  some of the people that have disabilities fight the fight every day, and it is something that is sometimes not known

I agree:  I think the person who says that she is "Doing this for attention" is DEAD wrong:  I doubt she (Pree) does this for attention:  she is bringing awareness about her Incontinence and her Disability to the people who feel strange or weird wearing diapers, or having to do so because of incontinence:  Pree gives you GOOD advice, and she wants to let people know that she deals with challenges, one being her Disability, and one being her incontinence.

Respectfully.

Brian

[ValentinesStuff]

34 minutes ago, Jumpin Jack said:

BS just go watch her videos, she is out for the abdl viewers. MS does not routinely make you crap yourself yet there she is in a video doing just that for her 'viewers'. Neither does ms make you have such severe urinary ncontinence that you will require diapers. There are plenty of alternative pads. You may be fooled i am not. Oh and i never said she never had ME.

No genuine incontinent person would be seen dead in the abdl diapers that she models out of self respect. Something she claims to be doing for the incontinent community. Incontinent people are not infants not do they by and large call them diapers. They are briefs or slips.

 

Well JumpingJack, I'm incontinent. I uncontrollably crap myself, several times a month. It runs the gamut from small leaks to emptying my bowel, from a feeling I'm about to crap. To "I wonder when that happened." I wear diapers, not briefs, not slips, not protective underwear, DIAPERS. And while I don't often wear AB diapers. I do on occasion. 

 

And if you don't know when you're going to crap yourself, guess what. You need to wear 24/7, because otherwise you will have a big mess on hand. Sometimes even while wearing a gold quality diaper on, you still end up with a big mess.

 

Also let me tell you it sucks. I've been fortunate to not have any major accidents in public, but the first was at a Gaming Convention of 5000 people, and the second was during my family's Thanksgiving Dinner. Never have I been happier to have been an AB that had gone 24/7. 

[spark]

35 minutes ago, Jumpin Jack said:

BS just go watch her videos, she is out for the abdl viewers. MS does not routinely make you crap yourself yet there she is in a video doing just that for her 'viewers'. Neither does ms make you have such severe urinary ncontinence that you will require diapers. There are plenty of alternative pads. You may be fooled i am not. Oh and i never said she never had ME.

No genuine incontinent person would be seen dead in the abdl diapers that she models out of self respect. Something she claims to be doing for the incontinent community. Incontinent people are not infants not do they by and large call them diapers. They are briefs or slips.

 

You seem to be making many assumptions, and I don't know what your purpose is by this tone.  This response is some how worse than the first one.

FTR- IMO, you lost all credibility when you accused her of faking MS without a shred of proof.  That qualifier of "We have no way of proving" doesn't excuse the accusation.  There is implication that you knew you were making, and did it anyway.

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She claims to have ms, i have no way of proving otherwise, it is a easy to fake condition, just grab your self a couple of sticks or a stroller and act a bit crippled. Incontinence in the majority of ms sufferers is usually not so severe as to require maximum protection as in diapers and faecal incontinence is little more prevalent than the population overall. Anyone can get constipation that may cause bowel leakage.

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No genuine incontinent person would be seen dead in the abdl diapers that she models out of self respect. Something she claims to be doing for the incontinent community. Incontinent people are not infants not do they by and large call them diapers. They are briefs or slips.

Once again, you're indirectly claiming that she is not genuinely incontinent (WTF does that mean?) by modeling diapers that you don't approve of.  

BTW- there are members on this page you do have the conditions that you mention, and use ABDL diapers and mechanism to cope with incontinence.  I use them to cope with social anxiety and other other issues.  Who are you to self-appoint yourself the judge all people, and how they get to chose with conditions that they have?

You joined this page in July, posted twice, resurrecting a discussion that had pretty much ran it's course to make a judgemental post, and you seem offended that the majority don't agree with you.

[~Brian~]

@Jumpin Jack

 

3 hours ago, Jumpin Jack said:

BS just go watch her videos, she is out for the abdl viewers.

I HAVE WATCHED a Good Many of them!  She is NOT doing this to attract the abdl crowd, what she is doing is raising awareness regarding MS, and incontinence!  I doubt she'd be going on the "This Morning" show to discuss her MS and her incontinence if she didn't suffer from MS, and I also doubt that she'd be discussing struggles with incontinence if she did NOT deal with it.  I even watched the YouTube Video that featured her in that show, and this is NOT "BS" - It's real, and Unless you have EVIDENCE to the contrary, your statement is not correct, and not only that, unless you have LIVED with MS and/or Incontinence, or dealt with losing control of your bowels, or your bladder, there is nothing you can say about this all being "BS" - because it isn't! Her Disability is REAL - You didn't notice her rolling walker, or her GAIT??  I did! I have CP myself, and I can see she is having difficulty, BUT she is dealing with it, they best and the only way she can - POSITIVITY helps!!

4 hours ago, Jumpin Jack said:

MS does not routinely make you crap yourself yet there she is in a video doing just that for her 'viewers'. Neither does ms make you have such severe urinary incontinence that you will require diapers.

BZZZZZZT:  Wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!  MS can take AWAY the ability to CONTROL your bladder and/or your bowels.  If someone is having problems either getting to the bathroom "in time" so they don't wet/mess themselves, or they are wetting or messing themselves,  there is a GOOD reason to wear and use diapers to deal with it.  I doubt that she would be filling her pants, doing it for her viewers:  If you have seen her videos, she is doing this, and letting people know that she isn't going to bury herself in a hole because she is facing MS and Incontinence:  She wants people not to be afraid of either:  She is NOT afraid of her MS, and she is NOT worried if someone sees her diaper "peeking through", because she accepts her limitations:  It's something she had to learn, and she is trying to help others.

4 hours ago, Jumpin Jack said:

No genuine incontinent person would be seen dead in the abdl diapers that she models out of self respect. Something she claims to be doing for the incontinent community. Incontinent people are not infants not do they by and large call them diapers. They are briefs or slips.

Oh REALLY??  How do you know this??  Many people wear diapers here, and some of them may wear the medical diapers that she uses as well.  FTR - There ARE people that wear the AB/DL diapers:  Me included:  I figure that, since I am Incontinent, and have to wear diapers, why NOT have a few that are fun/whimsical?  Why should I let the limitation(s) of my disability or MY incontinence STOP me from being who and what the hell I want to be?  I started wearing in 2020 full time, because I was dealing with IC - I don't, nor WILL I, apologize for that!!  and By The Way:  The reason that they started calling Adult Incontinence Undergarments "Briefs"/"Slips" is because they would be dealing with adults that NEED to use these, but calling adult undergarments "diapers" implies that they are baby-like, and they are NOT - but they still need them, they still use them, and they don't want to associate need of Adult Undergarments/Briefs with being a baby,  If you are a professional caregiver or a medical provider, they KNOW what a diaper is, and they know what a brief is, and they use these terms because that is the term that has been adopted for these - WE all KNOW at DD that a brief = a DIAPER - It does not change what they do, but it helps in a clinical or other medical setting:  they also do that in places like schools and it is a way that people can communicate that they need to check on or change a diaper without SAYING "I'm gonna go change this person". In Elementary School, I had a few disabled friends who were in such a class, and they would say "I'm Gonna Go Put a 'D'" on [whomever] - I knew what that meant, and so did the teachers in the classroom, and it meant that we maintained their privacy.

My Colleagues @ValentinesStuff, and @spark basically said everything else that needed to be said:  They also make valid points as well!  and @DiaperPatrick also had good points too!  You should be careful when you make accusations or observations that put people in boxes they do not fit in.  Pree is a young lady who had to learn how to deal with her challenges, and she is still learning, because your body can change as you age, or due to other circumstances.  She chooses to be who she is., and does NOT want to let these limitations stop her - She needs to do as much as she can, and it seems that she is doing that

Respectfully,

Brian

[spark]

13 minutes ago, ~Brian~ said:

 

My Colleagues @ValentinesStuff, and @spark basically said everything else that needed to be said:  They also make valid points as well!  and @DiaperPatrick also had good points too!  You should be careful when you make accusations or observations that put people in boxes they do not fit in.  Pree is a young lady who had to learn how to deal with her challenges, and she is still learning, because your body can change as you age, or due to other circumstances.  She chooses to be who she is., and does NOT want to let these limitations stop her - She needs to do as much as she can, and it seems that she is doing that

Respectfully,

Brian

I was actually more offended by the 2nd post than the first one.   The first one came off as preachy, and I just find it disgusting that anonymous people can can make claims with nothing more than assumed knowledge to support knowledge.

The 2nd post was highly offensive to me, and my issues stem from my desire to go 24/7.  As such, I still have the option to go without, but I don't like to.  I hate it when I do, because I'm miserable and constantly thinking about getting to the bathroom (FTR- this was true before I went 24/7).  I can't sleep through night, because I wake up with the question "Do I pee, or do I stay in bed?"  FTR- I think this is a real dilemma for most older males (and older females as well).  

I also knew that several posters like you came to ABDL as a coping mechanism, and I feel that post disparages you.

FTR- with a very quick Google search, i discovered that about 7 to 8 of 10 patients with have issues with their bowels, and between 50 and 95% experience bladder problems.  Not only is frequent, I would call that expected.

It's also wrong to assume that nobody who isn't ABDL would ever consider ABDL diapers because they work better than any other option available.  Inspire and Better Dry are ABDL diapers marketed to non-ABDL patients.  The quality of adult incontinence products has improved greatly over the last 15-20 years because ABDL diapers.  I happen to like Better Dry, but I like the patterns, so I buy Crinklz.

AFAIK, no other non-diaper management product is effective for all but the mildest form of incontinence.   Pull-ups are useless for me, because they leak if they do a full void.  If you can't trust your product, it doesn't work.

[ValentinesStuff]

 

NorthShore MegaMax Overnight Diaper Style Briefs with Tabs

 

I wonder how long it will be before NorthShore drops the "Style Briefs with Tabs" and just calls them Diapers or Pull-ups? Brief isn't on the front of the current packaging, but Diaper is.

[spark]

29 minutes ago, ValentinesStuff said:

I wonder how long it will be before NorthShore drops the "Style Briefs with Tabs" and just calls them Diapers or Pull-ups? Brief isn't on the front of the current packaging, but Diaper is.

I think that is a relatively recent development (like last 10 years).  I think the euphemism was meant to support the dignity of the patients, but the need for euphemism was affecting the dignity of the patients.  What I need is so bad that I'm not going to call it what it is.

[~Brian~]

14 hours ago, spark said:

I was actually more offended by the 2nd post than the first one.   The first one came off as preachy, and I just find it disgusting that anonymous people can can make claims with nothing more than assumed knowledge to support knowledge.

 

@spark

All I can say is that I AGREE with you - The first post is FULL of assumptions that Pree does certain things, or that describe her as "Infantile" and bases that off of the fact that she is "doing this to attract the ABDL crowd" and she laughs and "giggles a lot". and "she messes herself on camera, doing it for her followers/subscribers."  She has MS, which she is dealing with, and she is Incontinent, so of COURSE she may have to use her diaper for that, so making statements that dismiss her IC or her MS diagnosis is REALLY stupid, and making statements like:

On 2/26/2025 at 6:48 AM, Jumpin Jack said:

She is no champion of the medically challenged incontinent people. No one would buy baby patterned diapers simply out of self respect.

This morning got suckered having her on, i am sure she is grateful for the new fetishist subscribers. Tell me this is not the actions of a fetish.

The premise of removing stigma from people who wear by bringing the subject into the open is so bogus, Incontinent people will cover up and do everything they can to make sure nobody knows except those who need to know.. Its all so fake.

Why did this morning not introduce her under her actual name... I think i know the answer.

BZZZZZZZZT: HOW can someone who does NOT know Pree, about MS, or IC, make statements like this?  I always say that before someone makes statements about a situation, or a person IN that situation, they should "walk a mile in their shoes" - These statements make the OP look foolish, uneducated, and ill-informed.  How would @Jumpin Jack like it if someone made her wear and use diapers, and she had NO CONTROL over what happens, when it happens, and where it happens?  She'd probably dislike that:  Incontinent people deal with the issue EVERY DAY, so increasing awareness about it, and MS, well, that's a GOOD thing to do:  Maybe before she makes comments about Pree "faking her MS", or describing her as "infantile" because she is laughing or has a "bubbly personality", she should do some "soul searching" and realize that people that are IC, they did NOT ask for that, NOR do people ask to be disabled:  MS is debilitating and people with it have to deal with the idea that eventually, the condition gets worse: One of my cousins got MS at 17, and she died at 45:  She lived a good life, but had challenges, and had a lot of help, but she had her struggles:  Comments like those above, show that @Jumpin Jack is taking a POSITIVE thing, and turning it negative:  Having someone make assumptions and then saying that she "knows the answer [as to why] they didn't introduce Pree using her real name" that is presumptive, and arrogant:  What she knows is very little, and it shows:  She wants all of us to believe that "Incontinent people will cover up and do everything they can to make sure nobody knows except those who need to know.. Its all so fake."

Fake huh?:  I can ASSURE YOU that Incontinence, and MS, are NOT "fake" Incontinent people have to make the decision  of how to handle incontinence, and WHO they tell, and HOW MUCH they decide to disclose:  That is up to the person who has to deal with it:  I wish that I could make the OP understand this, but if she has all of these BASELESS claims, she is just trying to tell us that this whole thing is FAKE, and she is WRONG!

15 hours ago, spark said:

The 2nd post was highly offensive to me, and my issues stem from my desire to go 24/7.  As such, I still have the option to go without, but I don't like to.  I hate it when I do, because I'm miserable and constantly thinking about getting to the bathroom (FTR- this was true before I went 24/7).  I can't sleep through night, because I wake up with the question "Do I pee, or do I stay in bed?"  FTR- I think this is a real dilemma for most older males (and older females as well).  

I also knew that several posters like you came to ABDL as a coping mechanism, and I feel that post disparages you.

FTR- with a very quick Google search, i discovered that about 7 to 8 of 10 patients with have issues with their bowels, and between 50 and 95% experience bladder problems.  Not only is frequent, I would call that expected.

It's also wrong to assume that nobody who isn't ABDL would ever consider ABDL diapers because they work better than any other option available.  Inspire and Better Dry are ABDL diapers marketed to non-ABDL patients.  The quality of adult incontinence products has improved greatly over the last 15-20 years because ABDL diapers.  I happen to like Better Dry, but I like the patterns, so I buy Crinklz.

AFAIK, no other non-diaper management product is effective for all but the mildest form of incontinence.   Pull-ups are useless for me, because they leak if they do a full void.  If you can't trust your product, it doesn't work.

I found this second posting to be offensive, because IF you decide to go 24/7, that is based on your situation, and YOU are the only one that can determine whether you do that.  I've lost sleep because I was ALWAYS in the bathroom, had accidents (a few messy ones as well), and if you are doing that, you have to decide what you want to do to handle it - I have limited mobility, and as I age, I may not be able to count on the speed and and my body's ability to react quickly!

When she says things like 

16 hours ago, ~Brian~ said:

No genuine incontinent person would be seen dead in the abdl diapers that she models out of self respect.

You (Jumpin Jack) are WRONG:  I use my northshores, but LOVE the ABDL diapers: They are comfortable, and remind me of my childhood, and the FEELING of a plastic-backed diaper is AMAZING:  The only people that "wouldn't be seen dead in an abdl diapers" are those that think that it is bad:  I don't advocate for people to be running through the streets with just a shirt and diaper on, but an ABDL diaper is made well, and can handle what some low-grade diapers (which seems to me to be how the entire diaper industry markets them):  They are CHEAP and cant HANDLE the average release, and they are NOT made to be able to either - ABDL diapers have their uses and I have worn them before, and they can help with being Incontinent:  I don't worry about "self respect", because I respect myself enough to know that I NEED to wear and use them, and just because the OP says that "people wouldn't be caught DEAD in ABDL diapers" and she makes comments that are NOT true, that doesn't change the fact that many of us are Incontinent, and many of us wear diapers, and some of us ARE AB's, and some are DL's, and there are people that use ABDL diapers, and they respect themselves as well!

My mission on Daily Diapers is to HELP people that need it, and to be an "understanding ear". I respect people's OPINIONS, BUT I cannot allow Comments like I have seen from the OP (Jumpin Jack) to go unchallenged or unanswered:  Putting down someone like this shows me that she simply does not understand as much as she thinks:  If I and my colleagues can KNOCK DOWN her comments, by proving them incorrect, or totally DEAD WRONG! 

16 hours ago, spark said:

I also knew that several posters like you came to ABDL as a coping mechanism, and I feel that post disparages you.

I appreciate that!!  When you have BEEN Continent for 47 years, and suddenly, you start having problems with Incontinence, you have to determine how to deal with it, and it takes a hell of a lot of guts to ask for help with Incontinence - I DID that, and because of friends I've made in almost 6 years of membership here, I've learned that you should not feel shame because of incontinence:  The way I choose to deal with it works for me, and I have learned that there should NOT think of diapers being bad, but think of them as ONE way to deal with incontinence:  The OP should understand that if you have NO CONTROL of bladder or bowels, that diapers can help you deal with it, as there may not be any other way (other then diapers to deal with it).

Yes, People come to ABDL as a way to deal with this - It's a choice that people make - They may NOT have the choice of whether they wet or mess themselves, BUT they can make the choice of how to cope with the issues they experience.  There is NOTHING wrong with being an AB/DL, nothing wrong with wearing ans using diapers, and We should remember that there are wearing and using because they HAVE to, and there are others that wear for comfort reasons - They should also be respected:  Many of us have accepted that we have to wear and use diapers:  So you turn something MUNDANE into something FUN!!

Thank You to @spark and to @ValentinesStuff and @DiaperPatrick:  They hit many of the comments "out of the park" and they know the score regarding Incontinence and other issues - I feel that it is important to understand that diapers are NOT bad, they are helpful, and "stigmas" are what we must work to break - I am PROUD to be a DL, and they have helped me take back my life:  I have Incontinence, but it does NOT have me, and I am disabled, but it does NOT have me

Respectfully,

Brian

[ValentinesStuff]

1 hour ago, Jumpin Jack said:

I will be honest i never expected any other kind of a reply from you guys on a fetish site. The saying go's cant see past your own elbow. She is monetising a fetish, the bulk of her followers are the ab/dl community. Her sponsors supply the ab/dl community. Rear Canada. I see nothing in her videos that promote a healthy attitude to incontinence, if anything just infantilising it but then its what you guys get of on.

I couldn't say, I think I watched all of one of her videos a year or so ago, long before this thread anyway. I haven't watched anymore, I haven't subscribed to her channel. So what if she's monetizing a fetish, lots of people do. Even I have, as I have AB books for sale via Kindle. Mikey does too, didn't stop you from posting here.

 

BTW I am still wondering about this bandwagon and who else is on it.

[spark]

3 hours ago, Jumpin Jack said:

I will be honest i never expected any other kind of a reply from you guys on a fetish site. The saying go's cant see past your own elbow. She is monetising a fetish, the bulk of her followers are the ab/dl community. Her sponsors supply the ab/dl community. Rear Canada. I see nothing in her videos that promote a healthy attitude to incontinence, if anything just infantilising it but then its what you guys get of on.

Based on your words, I don't think you know what you're talking about.  You made up false claims, so I can't trust your claims.  How did you come up with a claim that bulk of her followers are ABDL?  I don't think you know who her followers are, nor do you have a way of knowing.

BTW- I don't subscribe to her because there is nothing new for me, and is certainly not ABDL content.  Most of the information is stuff I already know, but based on the comments on her videos- she helps some viewers deal with incontinence.   She certainly isn't harming anybody

FTR- I think you're words are offensive to people with MS or incontinence because you're trying to speak for people that you know nothing about. 

It's also extremely to offensive to me an ABDL.  You don't understand what I do, and yet your dismissing an entire group as just a fetish.  It's not for me, because I barely have any sexual feelings.  It's especially offensive to come into an ABDL safe space to make these, especially because your entire posting history is 3 posts  

You have every right to speak for yourself, but not to speak for people that you don't know anything about.  You certainly the right to disparage me

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I will be honest i never expected any other kind of a reply from you guys on a fetish site. The saying go's cant see past your own elbow. 

Just so you know, there is a very easy way to react against Youtube content creators.  Are you ready?  Don't watch them!  There are millions of content to consume worldwide, and nobody is forcing you to watch her videos. 

 

[AB_DeLane]

Wait, there are two threads with people offering inane takes on Pree?

I'll keep this one short.

Incontinent people exist. They are allowed to exist. They are allowed to choose to wear or use whatever products best suit their needs. They are allowed to share as little or as much information about their condition as they feel comfortable. They are allowed to be into ABDL. They are allowed to want nothing to do with it. They are allowed to fall somewhere in between. They are allowed to make reviews, create YouTube channels, and be advocates for people like themselves.

[spark]

8 hours ago, Jumpin Jack said:

It was shown here on tv

What?  Quit whining about being roasted when you have nothing productive to say.

You indirectly accused her of faking her condition (twice) without proof.  You stated that MS doesn't have fecal incontinence, even though it does, and you made judgemental statements about how she manages her issues.   You're not her, and you have the right not to watch if it upsets you.

[spark]

12 hours ago, DiaperPatrick said:

@sparkpack it up, bud. You're done here.

Excuse me? WTF are you to say that to me.  

[the.doctor.abdl]

@spark I was confused by that as well. I can only assume that Patrick meant to call out someone else and it was an honest mistake. 

[DiaperPatrick]

@Jumpin Jackpack it up, bud. You're done here.

Sorry @sparkit was actually a mistake. I was fired up and wrote the wrong name.

[spark]

8 hours ago, Jumpin Jack said:

She will be outed by the ms community and those that genuinely need maximum protection,Its only a matter of time.

Outed for what, exactly?  What is she doing that she needs to outed

BTW- I'm proud of myself with how I responded to you.  You made a post that attacked people for how they handle their incontinence, and I was personally thanked by posters in a PM for my response.  They felt supported because I spoke out against bullying.

WTF to do decide what counts as genuine incontinence?  Who are you to police people's symptoms with their various conditions?  What gives you the right because their symptoms aren't what you think they should be?  And who are you to speak for the entire MS community?

She has 9k subscribers.  Do you understand just how small that is?

[DiaperPatrick]

Hey. Can moderators get this dude out of here, please. This post and the other IDENTICAL post like it have taken over this section of the forum and I, personally, am not getting what I need out of the Diapers in the News board. This is here to report diaper sightings in the media, not debate whether someone is or isn't actually advocating for incontinence awareness (which for the record, she is). In the context of this board? Who the hell cares? Why don't we put more effort in finding more diaper references in the media? You know? Like what this board is for. If you want to debate, go discuss this in the DMs and don't DM me because I'm beyond caring at this point.

[~Brian~]

2 hours ago, DiaperPatrick said:

Hey. Can moderators get this dude out of here, please. This post and the other IDENTICAL post like it have taken over this section of the forum and I, personally, am not getting what I need out of the Diapers in the News board. This is here to report diaper sightings in the media, not debate whether someone is or isn't actually advocating for incontinence awareness (which for the record, she is). In the context of this board? Who the hell cares? Why don't we put more effort in finding more diaper references in the media? You know? Like what this board is for. If you want to debate, go discuss this in the DMs and don't DM me because I'm beyond caring at this point.

@DiaperPatrick

I MUST 100% AGREE with You - All that's been happening in this thread and the story about the "This Morning" Show and Ms. Bumblepree, have gone from a flat statement that this young lady is Incontinent as WELL as being DISABLED - to SPECULATION that Pree is trying to call attention to her diapers, and that she is somehow attracting the wrong crowd - I RESPECTFULLY disagree with @Jumpin Jack - Her explanation(s)  are full of wild and baseless opinions, and as far as I am concerned,do NOT carry any validity - Pree wets/messes herself, and rather than to say "poor me.....poor me..." she is taken control of her incontinence, and she has PRIDE:  Just like I do!! 

Whether you believe her or NOT is IRRELEVANT - SHE IS disabled, and should be believed and RESPECTED - We don't NEED to debate the facts - We DON'T have to say that someone is FAKING a disability - We DON'T need to "speculate" on this topic, and say things that people ARE NOT what they claim to be, and then say that this person or that person is "catering to" the AB crowd, or The DL Crowd:  The Fact is that she wears diapers, The Fact is that she is Disabled, and has decided to advocate for herself:  I WATCHED Pree several times - she makes that CLEAR, and others have also agreed with her as to her reasoning, and her approach!!

It's NOT fair that people have problems like MS/ALS/CP/MD, etc:  I am NOT saying that people should NOT disagree, far from it:  However, your thesis and idea(s) should NOT be based on what someone thinks is RIGHT when it is obvious that they are WRONG:  If these statements could be PROVEN to be correct, that would be different - I am asking each of you to RESPECT the facts as has been noted:  You CAN'T and should NOT call something OUT when its OBVIOUS that someone is Disabled:  I don't need to DEBATE anything here:  As long as she is/was and continues to show me that she is the "real deal" (disabled young lady with Incontinence and MS) then she has proven it to me, and I need not go further:  Bumblepree did NOT give herself MS, and she certainly is not an "exhibitionist" - She is Incontinent as well!

It is a fact of life that as a disabled individual, you have to be prepared to handle some pretty personal things:  One of the "milestones" that every human must master is POTTY TRAINING:  If you were able to do that, then it makes life easier: If NOT: you may have to wear diapers and use them as intended, for the rest of your life!  People don't ASK to be incontinent, but it happens:  @Jumpin Jack shows as a Diaper Lover (DL):  If you like diapers, that is Fine, but when you are making statements that YOU think are correct, and they are NOT, that tells me that you are putting down a disabled, incontinent person, and well, I rarely say this, but if someone claims to be a DL, then she should not be doing so:  It makes her look FOOLISH, because I AM ALSO incontinent, and I would HOPE that I don't have to PROVE it to HER:  I've proven that to DD, and I am not gonna debate MY disability:  I am dismayed that we cannot just ACCEPT that this young lady as what she claims to be, and be done with it!

I am SORRY:  I HAVE to stand on this one:  attacking someone because they don't THINK something is REAL or legit is DUMB!!  There is ZERO Evidence to the contrary, and without that, the whole argument is fallicy

WE who deal with a disability everyday know what is and is not real!

Respectfully,

Brian

 

 

Edited March 12 by ~Brian~
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