Rachel1 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) So is there any members that like there vaping as well as there diapers. Ive been off smoking now 5 years 3 years off the vape. I felt a bit pressure lately near went back on the stinkys but went back too vaping. i use a vape pen but im tempted too by a mod and tank. what vaping product does anyone like and e juice flavours .Ive been trying different e juice flavours but the last time i vaped i stuck on menthol, i might go back to my last preferred taste. Edited September 30, 2021 by Rachel1 1 Link to comment
Apache Raccoon Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Congrats for not choosing the stinkers. I’ve been vaping for 9 years, and previously smoked for 8 years. I use an NVEE Pro 2 mod I got from the newsagents: I actually prefer it to the fancy stuff they sell at vape shops these days. As far as juice my go to is Vampire Vapes Heisenberg: I’d recommend it if you like a sort of aniseed flavour and it has a nice balance of PG/VG. 1 Link to comment
Little Cub Pants Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Apache Raccoon said: Congrats for not choosing the stinkers. I’ve been vaping for 9 years, and previously smoked for 8 years. I use an NVEE Pro 2 mod I got from the newsagents: I actually prefer it to the fancy stuff they sell at vape shops these days. As far as juice my go to is Vampire Vapes Heisenberg: I’d recommend it if you like a sort of aniseed flavour and it has a nice balance of PG/VG. Hi Raccoon!? I love you!❤️☺️??❤️? *BIG HUGS BUDDY!*?❤️???❤️ 2 Link to comment
Apache Raccoon Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 33 minutes ago, BabySpiderBoy said: Hi Raccoon!? I love you!❤️☺️??❤️? *BIG HUGS BUDDY!*?❤️???❤️ Thanks, I love you to ? 1 Link to comment
Rachel1 Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Apache Raccoon said: Congrats for not choosing the stinkers. I’ve been vaping for 9 years, and previously smoked for 8 years. I use an NVEE Pro 2 mod I got from the newsagents: I actually prefer it to the fancy stuff they sell at vape shops these days. As far as juice my go to is Vampire Vapes Heisenberg: I’d recommend it if you like a sort of aniseed flavour and it has a nice balance of PG/VG. I'm not a one to Blow huge clouds i jiust use disposable ce4 clearomizers and 2 Green Sound ego3 batteries from ebay, and the old battery from a kit i used when i ,first started vaping. Think i will try the Heisenburg, i have Fruit Punch Strawberry and kiwi menthol i did stick to menthol when i last vaped. Ive heard the custard range of juices are good may try them till i settle down to the one i really enjoy. I'm temted to get a mod with a reloadable single battery and have one spare. Idont know how long ill vape again but im enjoying since 3 years ago when i last vaped Apache Racoon maybe we are the only members that Vape, time will tell we see. Link to comment
~Brian~ Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 @Rachel1 I was always taught that vaping is to be used when you are trying to get off cigarettes. I asked a couple of friends, who use vaping instruments, also called electronic or E Cigs, about how and why they are used, and was told that the liquid that’s in an eCig or a Vape pen, is designed to help you get off cigarettes, because it is liquefied nicotine. I have heard stories about how bad these are for people to use, and for teens and young adults to use. it gets so bad that I believe Vermont was one of the first state to ban sales at E Cig or Vape pen sales, and if anyone remembers back in the days when they always used to make smoking look glamorous exciting sexy or whatever, they soon found out that it is not glamorous, sexy, or exciting to smoke. This is why smoking wasBanned from TV advertising, and radio advertising – because it was bad: the only places that were allowed to sell cigarettes by advertising were magazines, and I’m not even sure that they are allowed to do that anymore. They have anti-vaping and anti-smoking ads all over the TV and radio. They also have band in Vermont all flavored tanks of vaping liquids, because what is happening is young kids are beginning to use or were using Vape pens instead of smoking cigarettes. Because there was no law against it, kids were able to get away with it. In concert with this, the state of Vermont raise the smoking age to 21 to match that of the drinking age of 21. There have also been many instances of young kids, that were smoking these vaping pens, ending up in the hospital because of this habit, and I believe a couple of them have died. A vaping pen has its uses: if a person has been smoking cigarettes for years, and wants to get off of them, in my mind, the reason why they’re having trouble is because it is not the physical action of holding a cigarette in their hand, but it is the nicotine that they’re addicted to. The liquids in a vaping pen substitute the nicotine at a lower level, so that a person can give up cigarettes. When I talked to one of my friends about vaping, he told me that vaping is used for a very finite time, so you can get off the cigarettes, and then eventually you stop using the Vape pen because you do not have any more addiction to the nicotine. so, I was told that you use the Vape pen for a short time after you get done with cigarettes. It is not designed for long-term use, and I believe with the chemicals and liquids in an E cig Are not good for you. That is why I would not use such a device. You’re giving up one source of nicotine for another, and I believe I’ve heard bad stories about what the liquids can do after long-term use.. I have been extremely lucky in my life: my mother smokes cigarettes for about 50 years or maybe a little less than that. All through her life and through mine, she has told me that smoking is bad. We all know that it’s bad, and the reason why Vape pens exist is to try to help people get off the nicotine. Sometimes I wish that my mom didn’t smoke cigarettes for as long as she did, but back in the day, they always used to make smoking cigarettes look glamorous and I can tell you that it is not. In high school I saw a cross-section of a lung that was damaged due to smoking cigarettes, and I will never forget what it look like black as an eight ball in the middle of the night. Because of my asthma, I don’t touch stuff like that, and I’m not sure if the asthma was caused earlier in my life because of the smoking my parents did or because I was around a lot of smoke. people today know better, because we all know how bad cigarettes and E cigs And Vape pens can be. They have their function, and I support the way they are used, and I am glad that the state of Vermont has Banned The sale of these devices to anyone that is under 21. I am not sure what they put in these vaping liquids, but I believe they have even tried to put illegal drugs within the Vape liquids, which causes another problem. I am just glad that I don’t smoke, so I don’t have to worry about using a Vape pen. Brian Link to comment
~*PrincessZozo*~ Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 16 hours ago, ~Brian~ said: @Rachel1 I was always taught that vaping is to be used when you are trying to get off cigarettes. I asked a couple of friends, who use vaping instruments, also called electronic or E Cigs, about how and why they are used, and was told that the liquid that’s in an eCig or a Vape pen, is designed to help you get off cigarettes, because it is liquefied nicotine. I have heard stories about how bad these are for people to use, and for teens and young adults to use. it gets so bad that I believe Vermont was one of the first state to ban sales at E Cig or Vape pen sales, and if anyone remembers back in the days when they always used to make smoking look glamorous exciting sexy or whatever, they soon found out that it is not glamorous, sexy, or exciting to smoke. This is why smoking wasBanned from TV advertising, and radio advertising – because it was bad: the only places that were allowed to sell cigarettes by advertising were magazines, and I’m not even sure that they are allowed to do that anymore. They have anti-vaping and anti-smoking ads all over the TV and radio. They also have band in Vermont all flavored tanks of vaping liquids, because what is happening is young kids are beginning to use or were using Vape pens instead of smoking cigarettes. Because there was no law against it, kids were able to get away with it. In concert with this, the state of Vermont raise the smoking age to 21 to match that of the drinking age of 21. There have also been many instances of young kids, that were smoking these vaping pens, ending up in the hospital because of this habit, and I believe a couple of them have died. A vaping pen has its uses: if a person has been smoking cigarettes for years, and wants to get off of them, in my mind, the reason why they’re having trouble is because it is not the physical action of holding a cigarette in their hand, but it is the nicotine that they’re addicted to. The liquids in a vaping pen substitute the nicotine at a lower level, so that a person can give up cigarettes. When I talked to one of my friends about vaping, he told me that vaping is used for a very finite time, so you can get off the cigarettes, and then eventually you stop using the Vape pen because you do not have any more addiction to the nicotine. so, I was told that you use the Vape pen for a short time after you get done with cigarettes. It is not designed for long-term use, and I believe with the chemicals and liquids in an E cig Are not good for you. That is why I would not use such a device. You’re giving up one source of nicotine for another, and I believe I’ve heard bad stories about what the liquids can do after long-term use.. I have been extremely lucky in my life: my mother smokes cigarettes for about 50 years or maybe a little less than that. All through her life and through mine, she has told me that smoking is bad. We all know that it’s bad, and the reason why Vape pens exist is to try to help people get off the nicotine. Sometimes I wish that my mom didn’t smoke cigarettes for as long as she did, but back in the day, they always used to make smoking cigarettes look glamorous and I can tell you that it is not. In high school I saw a cross-section of a lung that was damaged due to smoking cigarettes, and I will never forget what it look like black as an eight ball in the middle of the night. Because of my asthma, I don’t touch stuff like that, and I’m not sure if the asthma was caused earlier in my life because of the smoking my parents did or because I was around a lot of smoke. people today know better, because we all know how bad cigarettes and E cigs And Vape pens can be. They have their function, and I support the way they are used, and I am glad that the state of Vermont has Banned The sale of these devices to anyone that is under 21. I am not sure what they put in these vaping liquids, but I believe they have even tried to put illegal drugs within the Vape liquids, which causes another problem. I am just glad that I don’t smoke, so I don’t have to worry about using a Vape pen. Brian you're incorrect on many points. 1) Vaping isn't banned in CT, they're considering it https://vtdigger.org/2021/02/25/lawmakers-thinking-again-about-a-ban-on-flavored-e-cigarettes-and-menthol/. It is banned in several states but CT vermont have no vape ban. NY, and CA (off the top of my head) do. The FDA is also about to completely ban vape juice because they steal money from tobacco companies (who were getting into vaping), which in turn reduces the money tobacco companies send to states under the tobacco master settlement agreement. 2) most people I know (myself included) have vaped for years almost decades and we're just as healthy as nonsmokers at this point. There's nothing in them that are dangerous. If you've been around a fog machine in your life, it's those same ingredients + a flavoring. 3) It's well known that vaping is miles healthier than smoking cigarettes. there's been thousands of stories about it, america is just (once again) ass backwards. 4) all the vaping illnesses is because of one specific thing that isn't even nicotine related. it's people vaping vitamin E oil that cuts the THC oil in cartomizers. Not nicotine. and only shitty homemade / bootleg THC oil has honeycut in them. I've vaped hundreds of them and never had any issues with them. My mom had lung cancer twice. That's why I vape instead of smoking. My doctor can't even tell I vape from the tests they've done. Link to comment
~Brian~ Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 19 hours ago, ~*PrincessZozo*~ said: you're incorrect on many points. 1) Vaping isn't banned in CT, they're considering it https://vtdigger.org/2021/02/25/lawmakers-thinking-again-about-a-ban-on-flavored-e-cigarettes-and-menthol/. It is banned in several states but CT vermont have no vape ban. NY, and CA (off the top of my head) do. The FDA is also about to completely ban vape juice because they steal money from tobacco companies (who were getting into vaping), which in turn reduces the money tobacco companies send to states under the tobacco master settlement agreement. 2) most people I know (myself included) have vaped for years almost decades and we're just as healthy as nonsmokers at this point. There's nothing in them that are dangerous. If you've been around a fog machine in your life, it's those same ingredients + a flavoring. 3) It's well known that vaping is miles healthier than smoking cigarettes. there's been thousands of stories about it, america is just (once again) ass backwards. 4) all the vaping illnesses is because of one specific thing that isn't even nicotine related. it's people vaping vitamin E oil that cuts the THC oil in cartomizers. Not nicotine. and only shitty homemade / bootleg THC oil has honeycut in them. I've vaped hundreds of them and never had any issues with them. My mom had lung cancer twice. That's why I vape instead of smoking. My doctor can't even tell I vape from the tests they've done. @~*PrincessZozo*~ I may disagree with you: the reason why I said the vaping was bad was because on several occasions in Vermont and in other states there have been people that have died and their health has been drastically affected. In one case, there was a young gentleman that vaped, and for some reason his lung collapsed, so he was in the hospital for a long time. There have also been reports of the vaping chemicals causing problems for those who Vape. They’ve also been instances where people have put other things in the vaping chemical, such as THC or something else. I am not saying that vaping is all bad: vaping does have its uses and it can help those who are addicted to the nicotine. The problem is the chemicals that are in that vape you’re not be what you expect, and that is why you have to be careful. The reason why in Vermont that the smoking age was raised to 21 Was because people under 21 we’re getting the Vape pen and the chemicals, and they were putting flavoring in the Vape chemical, and in some cases I believe the Vape chemical is worse than cigarettes. other states may allow sale of vaping chemicals, but I am not sure what they are, because I was honestly under the impression that Internet sales of vaping chemicals was against the law in many states. Since vaping is used to help someone get off cigarettes and the nicotine and is used for or is supposed to be used for a short time, they have their purpose. I’m not sure How are Vape pen is going to help someone get off of cigarettes, but I do have friends that have use the Vape pen to get off cigarettes. They tell me that they used it for a couple weeks to a month and then they got off. I guess what they are trying to get off is the nicotine and the Vape chemicals have nicotine in them in lower and lower amounts so that the person can wean themselves off the nicotine. Brian Link to comment
~*PrincessZozo*~ Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 there. are. no. CHEMICALS in vaping. You're spouting massive amounts of FUD. every. single. vaping illness is due to https://www.leafly.com/news/health/toxic-vaping-vapi-evali-lung-injury-rise-and-fall-of-vitamin-e-oil-honey-cut in THC products. not nicotine. Vaping and smoking is 21 FEDERALLY. I don't know why you have a hard-on for that state. Please don't talk about things like you're an expert if you don't know the basics. it's vape JUICE. Link to comment
~Brian~ Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) On 10/2/2021 at 9:14 PM, ~*PrincessZozo*~ said: there. are. no. CHEMICALS in vaping. You're spouting massive amounts of FUD. every. single. vaping illness is due to https://www.leafly.com/news/health/toxic-vaping-vapi-evali-lung-injury-rise-and-fall-of-vitamin-e-oil-honey-cut in THC products. not nicotine. Vaping and smoking is 21 FEDERALLY. I don't know why you have a hard-on for that state. Please don't talk about things like you're an expert if you don't know the basics. it's vape JUICE. Whether you vape nicotine or another substance, Vape products are Vape products, which are regulated for a reason: I do NOT have a "hard on for my state" BUT, I live here, and I have also worked in state government, and I know that the Vermont Legislature is one place where laws are made, and recorded, and the Secretary of State is the place where you can get the journals of any actions done during the sessions. I claim ONLY that the law where I live is what it states. The State of VERMONT is where I live, and they have made vaping illegal for residents that are NOT age of 21 or over by Vermont LAW. They would not make a law that forbids it for under 21's unless there was a good reason for it. I LOVE my state, and I am simply stating that Vermont made that the law here. I KNOW that there are people who choose to vape, and I am NOT saying anything against the practice, they have the ability to decide for themselves whether they will partake in it, or not, and what they will injest. " Showing results for is vaping legal for minors in vermontSearch instead for is vaping legal for monors in vermont Vermont LAWS & TAXES The sale and/or distribution of vapor products to persons under age 21 is prohibited. The purchase and/or possession of vapor products by persons under age 21 is prohibited. A retail license or permit is required to sell vapor products.Mar 15, 2021" You do NOT need to be an expert on Vaping to Google what is stated above: It BACKS UP the claim that minors are NOT lawfully allowed to vape in Vermont: They still may do it, but it IS prohibited under Vermont statutes - What OTHER states do, is their business. Edited November 6, 2021 by ~Brian~ Edits to fix formatting Link to comment
hoi312 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 10/1/2021 at 2:01 PM, ~Brian~ said: @Rachel1 I was always taught that vaping is to be used when you are trying to get off cigarettes. I asked a couple of friends, who use vaping instruments, also called electronic or E Cigs, about how and why they are used, and was told that the liquid that’s in an eCig or a Vape pen, is designed to help you get off cigarettes, because it is liquefied nicotine. I have heard stories about how bad these are for people to use, and for teens and young adults to use. it gets so bad that I believe Vermont was one of the first state to ban sales at E Cig or Vape pen sales, and if anyone remembers back in the days when they always used to make smoking look glamorous exciting sexy or whatever, they soon found out that it is not glamorous, sexy, or exciting to smoke. This is why smoking wasBanned from TV advertising, and radio advertising – because it was bad: the only places that were allowed to sell cigarettes by advertising were magazines, and I’m not even sure that they are allowed to do that anymore. They have anti-vaping and anti-smoking ads all over the TV and radio. They also have band in Vermont all flavored tanks of vaping liquids, because what is happening is young kids are beginning to use or were using Vape pens instead of smoking cigarettes. Because there was no law against it, kids were able to get away with it. In concert with this, the state of Vermont raise the smoking age to 21 to match that of the drinking age of 21. There have also been many instances of young kids, that were smoking these vaping pens, ending up in the hospital because of this habit, and I believe a couple of them have died. A vaping pen has its uses: if a person has been smoking cigarettes for years, and wants to get off of them, in my mind, the reason why they’re having trouble is because it is not the physical action of holding a cigarette in their hand, but it is the nicotine that they’re addicted to. The liquids in a vaping pen substitute the nicotine at a lower level, so that a person can give up cigarettes. When I talked to one of my friends about vaping, he told me that vaping is used for a very finite time, so you can get off the cigarettes, and then eventually you stop using the Vape pen because you do not have any more addiction to the nicotine. so, I was told that you use the Vape pen for a short time after you get done with cigarettes. It is not designed for long-term use, and I believe with the chemicals and liquids in an E cig Are not good for you. That is why I would not use such a device. You’re giving up one source of nicotine for another, and I believe I’ve heard bad stories about what the liquids can do after long-term use.. I have been extremely lucky in my life: my mother smokes cigarettes for about 50 years or maybe a little less than that. All through her life and through mine, she has told me that smoking is bad. We all know that it’s bad, and the reason why Vape pens exist is to try to help people get off the nicotine. Sometimes I wish that my mom didn’t smoke cigarettes for as long as she did, but back in the day, they always used to make smoking cigarettes look glamorous and I can tell you that it is not. In high school I saw a cross-section of a lung that was damaged due to smoking cigarettes, and I will never forget what it look like black as an eight ball in the middle of the night. Because of my asthma, I don’t touch stuff like that, and I’m not sure if the asthma was caused earlier in my life because of the smoking my parents did or because I was around a lot of smoke. people today know better, because we all know how bad cigarettes and E cigs And Vape pens can be. They have their function, and I support the way they are used, and I am glad that the state of Vermont has Banned The sale of these devices to anyone that is under 21. I am not sure what they put in these vaping liquids, but I believe they have even tried to put illegal drugs within the Vape liquids, which causes another problem. I am just glad that I don’t smoke, so I don’t have to worry about using a Vape pen. Brian @~Brian~ Vaping can be for a multitude of reasons, and while yes, vaping was originally developed to stop smoking it isn't anymore. Many people like myself know its not healthy (and you will hear no one who vapes say it is) it is more healthy than smoking. I agree it shouldn't be allowed to children but I also believe that when you turn 18 (in my country it allows you to smoke and drink) you are a adult and can make choices for yourself. I don't really strife to live as long as I can, but I'd rather try out a lot of stress reliving substance (legal ones) then try to live healthy. Where would we draw the line? Drinking cola is un healthy, so is drinking alcohol, but people still choose to do this. You saying that the vaping pen only has it use as a intermediate to stop smoking is out dated. And (I don't know about America) but in Europe its heavily regulated. There are chemicals in there, but there are also chemicals in water to make it save to drink, so I can't really take that as a valid argument. I 100% agree that minors (in my country people under 18) shouldn't be allowed to vape. But we are adult, driving my motorcycle has a higher chance to kill me vaping does. And why is a adult not allowed to put himself in bad health or danger? More people die every year from eating MacDonald's in America then people die from smoking related causes (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0749379709007636) and this is legal for everyone. Everyone who eat unhealthy knows what they are doing, and make the choice to continue. Vaping pens these days are made for long time use, as people started to see vaping as a alternative and not a intermediate. Its subject to the same consumption AND tobacco regulation. Also I would like to talk about the black lung that you saw, that is exactly the reason I don't and have never smoked. While vaping you don't get the same "chemicals" as those you get from smoking. The thing that makes your lungs go black is the tar (https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms/def/tobacco-tar) and this is not present in all vape pens. Talking about the liquid is also a difficult thing. There are 2 different ways of getting nicotine to vape (that I personally know of), that in liquid (like your mod vapes) form or a salt based form (like a juul). Juuls being salt based contain a way higher amount of nicotine that most liquid based vapes can handle, so results on "effects of vaping" may very greatly form test to test. Anyway, I do see where you are coming from, and understand that it's not for everyone, and especially children. But I hope I could explain my side to you and maybe give you some more information. -your friendly neighborhood risk acceptor On 9/30/2021 at 4:38 AM, Rachel1 said: So is there any members that like there vaping as well as there diapers. Ive been off smoking now 5 years 3 years off the vape. I felt a bit pressure lately near went back on the stinkys but went back too vaping. i use a vape pen but im tempted too by a mod and tank. what vaping product does anyone like and e juice flavours .Ive been trying different e juice flavours but the last time i vaped i stuck on menthol, i might go back to my last preferred taste. @Rachel1 I personally use the SMOK X-priv with a tf12-cloud beast tank. I run a sub-ohm coil (0.15, sub-ohm is supposed to give more flavor) at around 120w. For vape juice I try to always order many different flavors so I can switch between different ones a lot, otherwise if I stick with a certain juice it loses it's flavor to quickly. When you go the mod rout it open up a lot of different options for setups you can run, my mod goes from 0 to 225w so it will run about anything I screw into it. You can also experiment between normal coils and mesh coils. Mesh coils give even more flavor but in a trade for less smoke production. I always run with fruity and sweet flavors, with things like menthol and iced flavors as pallet cleansers. Link to comment
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