Sexual desire or BIID?

[FreeFlowin]

For me, I truly don't know. All I know is that it's something I've known about myself since I was just a little kid, LONG before I discovered that AB/DL was a 'thing' thanks to the Internet. There are elements of kink to it, and there are also elements of comfort to it as well for me. Over the years, I've found that the "excitement" I've felt surrounding diapers has always been in the prospect of eventually needing them, and not being able to go without them for any long period of time. However, many people state that once you actually begin wearing 24/7, the excitement factor subsides pretty fast. Almost like a "grass is always greener on the other side" situation. I can say this much, when I wear for long periods of 24/7, I masturbate a LOT less than I normally do, not just because its a lot harder to do when wearing, but also because Im channeling that pent-up energy into something healthier, and I usually feel better and get a lot more done with my day. Ironically, I'm "less mentally engaged" with my kink (if it even is one) when I'm wearing 24/7 versus when I'm not, so if it IS just a kink, it's one that actually helps me focus on my life and even cut down on how much I distract myself with self-touch and/or porn...

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But I'd like to ask this question; Just how much is ABDL really related to BIID? BIID is usually classified as something where people would like to recieve amputations or even be paralyzed (or gain disabilities in other ways via surgeries), but these procedures, by their very nature, are directly damaging to our bodies.

As far as AB/DL goes, the one thing seen about it as a "disability" is that you just can't make it to the toilet. The only reason people even see it that way to begin with is because they don't want people eliminating all over the floors and furniture, so everyone is instructed to contain their wastes for a specifc part of the house. But here's the issue...

It's not unhealthy in any way to let go of your waste products the moment you need to. Our bodies were designed from birth to do just that, as a matter of fact. It's only with conscious effort that we stop these things. HOWEVER, it is very possible to cause serious damage and health problems for your body by NOT eliminating these things, as we have seen time and time again with water poisoning and loads of health issues related to constipation and bowel issues. 

Therefore, a case could be made that by un-doing your potty training, that you are actually helping your body to return to a much more functional and "freeflowin" state, as nature intended. You cannot die from urinary or bowel incontinence. You can, however, die from not eliminating those things. In fact, I have seen so many stories, not just here, but all over the internet, about people who were suffering with health issues of all sorts that saw them clear up when they just let their bodies start eliminating naturally once again.

There are also those who suffer from partial incontinence issues... using prescription drugs, alarm systems, spending excess hours in the bathroom, having to change the bedsheets everyday anyway, and after years of fighting it, finally decide to give up the goat and put themselves in diapers 24/7, and they find they are so much happier not having to spend so much time and energy fighting it anymore. Can you call it BIID in that case, if someone makes a choice for themselves that will significantly improve their quality of life? So they might wear bulky undergarments now... as long as it's disposed of properly and you don't expose other people to it, what's the issue?

Which begs the question, where is line drawn for "acceptability" of diapers? Just how physically afflicted must you be before wearing them is considered "ok" for you? Nobody chooses to wear diapers because they think it'll make them cool, popular, or give them a significant advantange in life. It takes a lot of bravery to make this change, or any big life change for that matter, wether it is to provide relief for a physical condition, or a mental one. Really, I think the only "disorder" that I see here is the assumption by the masses that diapers are for kids only, and that children must somehow be involved if diapers are involved, which is so laughably untrue and easily disproven by the production numbers of adult diapers VS childrens diapers around the world, the enourmous numbers of AB/DLs out there, and the huge number of younger and older adults afflicted with incontinence issues in one way or another. 

"Whats in my pants should be nobody's business." comes to mind.

But that's just my brain spouting things off again... ? sorry for the long posts, I've had a lot of thoughts over the years...

[deewet]

I believe you addressed your point well in the last sustenance of the last paragraph.

Really, I think the only "disorder" that I see here is the assumption by the masses that diapers are for kids only, and that children must somehow be involved if diapers are involved, which is so laughably untrue and easily disproven by the production numbers of adult diapers VS childrens diapers around the world, the enourmous numbers of AB/DLs out there, and the huge number of younger and older adults afflicted issues in one way or another. 

Considering the expanding markets for icon products ranging from high absorption pads, adult pullups or "absorbent underwear", and up to and including the traditional tab style diapers, with all the adverts on the media now, it is hard to not believe that most now days are expecting older folks are all wearing diapers.  Having said that, with the social media highlighting the use of diapers by party goers at large public outdoor events to avoid crowded or dirty porta pottys, it seems to be much more common these days for the younger generation to use diapers at least on occasion!

[bi-bedwetter]

My desire for bed wetting and daytime incontinence is very sexual.  I started taking my mom's Kotex pads when I was about seven, and wearing them and peeing in them in public.  And yes, I did know what sex was at that age.  I wet my bed as a kid until I was around 8-9, so was put in diapers and rubber pants every night until I stopped.  I had the occasional  accident until I was 13. But I always loved waking up in a wet diaper and having my mom or dad change me and wash me off under the bathtub faucet.  

To this day, when I wake up every morning, the first thing I do is masturbate in my wet diaper.  Having a powerful orgasm in my warm, wet diaper is absolutely thrilling to me and a great way to start my day!

I also LOVE wearing Foley catheters!  Usually I wear the largest size, Fr30, because it stretches my urethra and feels absolutely incredibly delicious!  When I'm catheterized, I have random, uncontrollable orgasms which can bring me to my knees!  I wear a belly bag, so it's really undetectable under my clothes.  The best sex I have ever had was when I was catheterized.  Having a penis rub against my urethral wall while it is stuffed to the max, creates one strong orgasm after another!  Sometimes I create a stent with a Foley and just let it drain into my diaper.

I once knew a man who kept a stent in all the time, so his wife thought he was incontinent.  He loved having sex while pee constantly dribbled out of his penis.

 

[paragirl123]

For as long as I can remember I have had BIID. I've wanted to be disabled (paraplegic wheelchair user) since I was about 5. My mind was constantly working overtime thinking about wheelchairs and having no sensation and movement in my legs. I told a friend about it when I was around 12 and she said if I was paralysed I'd be incontinent and have to wear a nappy. That also became an obsession then! 

 So for me the 2 have always gone together and I'm happy to say that after years of pretending I am now disabled and wear nappies 24/7. I've never been happier or more content. I have an awesome boyfriend who loves that I'm disabled and wear nappies and I am slowly getting more and more disabled. I'm now Quadriplegic and love it. He is my full time carer.

[Kevin140]

I am member of a BIID channel, and told there, that I can’t  decide that my urges to have OAB came from my inner will to be as I wanted to be or an „sexuell“ exitement, and I got told, that the border are fluently, there are some people, that get in the moment they get umputated (after a lot of medical consultations), they were exited at this moment of there tranformation.

I think this is a game changer in this question, and for all of us. So I have to say: should we give a name to our desire, or should we all accept us, in the way we are, or we want to be? *love*

and in my case I have to admit that no matter what makes me feel like I want to have an overactive bladder or have achieved it, I also have components of BIID. I would like to have a stiffened knee joint, so from time to time I use an orthosis that I wear invisibly to others, which also gives me extreme inner satisfaction - but also always leaves me with the thought: how sick I actually am! 😎

[Old_PA]

On 12/4/2023 at 11:39 AM, Kevin140 said:

I would like to have a stiffened knee joint, so from time to time I use an orthosis that I wear invisibly to others, which also gives me extreme inner satisfaction -

When I was a kid in the 50s, there was a lot of polio about. The sight of another kid wearing leg irons would always bring on a prepubescent erection. There is some connection there.

[Old_PA]

Perhaps the thought of bondage (wearing leg irons) excites the same part of the brain as sexual thoughts and stimulation. As a kit, I had no knowledge of sex. I guess bondage which does not involve any sexual activity, cannot be described as sexual, neither, enjoyment of diapers.