Catheters

[AnthH]

Yeah I know most/some of you guys and girls would say stay away.

I've been messing with catheters for well a long time 10 years of so. Last one I had in was 12ch for 3 weeks without problems (well a little uncomfortable) 500ml leg bag for daytime use, Connected to a 2000ml night bag while I sleep.

Anyway, I have been suffering from bedwetting all my life with the odd day time accident so nappies it was for me every night. So here's the thing I don't mind the nappies but the catheter just solves a bigger problem for me. No bulk of a nappy and less mess/clean-up  

My GP knows that I wet the bed and we have tried lots of products (nappies, external catheters and even kids colostomy bags over the little fella. I've been using a Bioderm product with some success) But they hurt like hell after a week of use.  

Now we all know the complications of using a Catheter and I do make a point of keeping everything very, very clean.  But I wanna use them full time now. Here in the UK we get stuff like this on prescription for free. The Bioderms that I use at the moment are £80 for a 30 day supply not to mention the 10 none sterile leg bags and the 10 sterile night bags I'm going through ever month. 1 Bioderm last 3 days so I change leg bags and night bags ever 3 days too.

So I've been ordering Catheters on the net I can get 5x 12ch Catheters for just over £20 like I said the longest I have used one is 3 weeks. Then went back to nappies or the Bioderm product.

Took a long time here but should I just use the catheter for longer on not? You know as well as I do that my GP  will probably wont proscribe them but life is just so much better/easier with one in. The quality of my metal heath is also just so much better while the catheter is in. Oh here's a link to the Bioderm (I'm sure some will ask) https://www.clinimed.co.uk/urology-continence-care/products/incontinence-products/bioderm

Thanks for taking the time to look and respond, hope I posted to the right forum.

[Dubious]

Diapers are not bulky and not messy if you only pee

So much more that can go wrong with a pee-bag, and that one is bulky.

If you get diapers for free, but not catheters, then the choice is simple/easy 

[AnthH]

1 hour ago, Dubious said:

Diapers are not bulky and not messy if you only pee

So much more that can go wrong with a pee-bag, and that one is bulky.

If you get diapers for free, but not catheters, then the choice is simple/easy 

I disagree nappies are so much harder to hide than a leg bag. Messy was maybe the wrong word to use. Hygienic might have been a better word to use. I get continence products (Bioberm and bags) I don't get nappies for free. As I said the Bioderm starts to hurt after about a week so renders them unusable after a week I go back to nappies to recover. Then go back to the Bioderm.

I just find a catheter so much more convenient.  

[mick_dl]

It's fine if you find your solution. I think this is very individual and there is no one size fits all solution. If you have no control at all, a catheters may the better option. If you have still some control catheters are mostly contra indicated because a) you can't train your bladder with a catheter and b) the risk of UTI is much higher as with diapers.   

[AnthH]

6 hours ago, mick_dl said:

It's fine if you find your solution. I think this is very individual and there is no one size fits all solution. If you have no control at all, a catheters may the better option. If you have still some control catheters are mostly contra indicated because a) you can't train your bladder with a catheter and b) the risk of UTI is much higher as with diapers.   

Thanks for your input @mick_dl I do appreciate your time. I get what your saying. I'm not sure if I have explained my situation correctly. I have tried so many ways to overcome my bedwetting. I just find that the catheter route just solves them all, Including the daytime problems.

To be honest I'm not sure if I'm just looking for the ok from other people. "Yes, catheters will get you through this" I dunno.

 

[Old_PA]

Check out Hiprex tablets to reduce the risk of UTI.

[AnthH]

Thought I'd post a update.

I'm still using Catheters but I've moved from a 12ch to a 14ch. Still with a leg bag 500ml connected to a 2000ml night bag for night time.

So I've been trying other devices because the Bioderm has been discontinued by my supplier.. So I've tried SenSura Mio Kids urostomy bag. This was stuck over my penis with Pelican Contour flange extenders... They last half a day then start to leak.

Lets move on... We tried the Hollister Male Urinary Pouch External Collection Device... They last half a day then start to leak

Now I'm trying Male pubic pressure urinal Fig 101 (I not going to hold my breath) this I hope will arrive in the next few days. I'll leave this 14ch in till it comes. I've told my nurse from Nightingale that I'm fed up now. I just want something that going to work. She was so under standing. I said to her look I've ordered this Biocath Bard Tray Foley Catheterisation Tray 14Ch from Ebay for 99p (£3.20 Postage)

First thing she said was "you know the dangers of Foley catheters don't you?" Well yeah I know that if I get a UTI It'll take a doctor a lot less time to prescribe antibiotics than it'll take time to prescribe any device that we need to test/try to find what works for me. Normally takes 10 days from the nurse to my doctors to get there shit together.

Yeah. nappies, well just work. If you can find one that won't leak on you (trust me I have tried loads) It's a cost thing I guess I'm trying to get at here. Nappies (Hey I don't mind them) are well expensive. Other over priced devices that last a day) Over a Catheter that could should last 3 months are just cheap as chips.

So let me brake this down.

One months supplies 

Nappies £100 I know this cos I've paid it.

Bioderm £86. + Bags (Leg) £56 + (Night) £60 That's a change every 2/3 days

SenSura Mio Kids urostomy bag about the same as the Bioderm kit +£40 for flange extenders

Hollister Male Urinary Pouch External Collection Device again about the same as the Bioberm kit

 

Bard Biocath Foley Catheters £16.49 online last 3 months. Bags (Leg) £56 + (Night) £60 That's a change every 5/7 days. Just cheaper right? Even if I need to have antibiotics for a UTI/CUTI

 

Not sure if I've let you know what my problem is tbh. Well here goes.

I wet the bed every night. I pee a lot during the day like every 20 mins or so... Sometimes during the day it just goes, sometimes I manage to get there in time only to fumble to find it(It's retracted) and then once I do it's to late. Now I know what your thinking "see a doc" Nope been there done that. I've always been like that. Mum called me baby bladder when I was a kid.  So I really don't think anything is wrong with my plumbing but to honest it's just life. At 50 I'm not going to let going to the loo every 15/20 mins rule my life.