Leilin Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 *facepalm* Alright guys. The thread had a good start. The one man derp brigade is here. I'm out. Link to comment
Horndog Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 You know, one reason I don't like talking about politics on message boards is because there will always be that someone who spouts ignorant garbage -- and you want to correct him, but no. They won't change. Link to comment
J Y F Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 Lol redneck, you have to tone down your posts a bit xD. Those are all very controversial points and though I agree with the basis of some of them, you've put them a bit out of proportion. You have to stay more calm and nonaggressive when talking about politics for anyone to ever listen to you. Link to comment
sarah_ab Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 millions continued to support bush jr after he passed nclb and a fat lot of good that ever did for even one kid.... but again obama signed this law after how many of each of our elected atate officials also voted for it??? so make surr all those republicans you voted into office get the same support you are showing obama .... because THEY had to vote for it before it even got infront of him.... same with everyother bill passed ... obama can veto a bill but for it to even get to him it has to be approved by a couple hundred other people you did vote for ..... maybe its not the president but all the other people in washington causing the big problems .... or is it just easier to pretend they have nothing to do with it so you can only blame one guy that you dont happen to like?? i use you in a broad sense and refer to no actual person here but its easier than typing s/he/it or the individual etc .... 1 Link to comment
diaperpt Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Libertarianism may be good conceptually - and perhaps in reality on some issues - very dangerous in many other ways. Less regulation, less 'interference' spells the rich get richer, big business gets bigger, and the environment of our world is destroyed all that much sooner. Socialism and/or communism are poisonous words for most people, but I'd submit good conceptually - and undoubtedly in reality on some issues - and very dangerous in others. I could continue along those lines. It isn't what you call it. It's how it's carried out. Yes, I'm disappointed in Obama but for different reasons than the Republicans who insist the economy is his fault. Really, now. Is that a short memory or what? We're being told that the same policies that got us into this mess will get us out. Give MORE tax breaks to the rich and to big business??? Profits are a record high. Top corporate pay is at an obscenely record high. They are still withholding jobs because they want still MORE profit. I'm not thrilled with politics in general, but it's pretty obvious that Republican leadership stresses 'freedom' but I'm sorry, the 'Trickle Down Theory' didn't and won't work with economics and it won't with 'freedom' either - not in the hands of those who don't care about the lower or even middle-class. I don't like a lot of things going on with Democrats either. No, I don't support the law mentioned by the OP. Will I abandon my support for the least dangerous candidate?? I don't think so. 1 Link to comment
Leilin Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Top corporate pay is at an obscenely record high. They are still withholding jobs because they want still MORE profit. This is because, despite the whining of politicians, the ability of a company to provide jobs has not one floor, but two 1. The amount of money the company has to hire people 2. The demand for the company's product. Number Two seems to be the one that most forget, as they are still whining at the top of their lungs that there aren't enough tax cuts for the rich. No company will hire when it doesn't have to. Until demand for products is increased (which is done, by the way, by increasing circulation of money in the poor and middle class, since the rich do not, historically, spend as much of their money in public markets), hiring does not increase because it would be stupid to hire another person to do a job that your current staff already manages without issue. 1 Link to comment
Honu Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I'll vote for whoever or whatever is running against him, a dead polecat included! Link to comment
Diapered Jason Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I have always hated Obama because he is a Marxist. For those that tell me that I don't know what Marxism is, I was educated by someone that escaped from Joseph Stalin. Libel, lol. I'll vote for whoever or whatever is running against him, a dead polecat included! Unwise, but it would be funny if you wrote in dead polecat. It won't matter anyway. Barrack Obama will probably have a second term and it is very likely the democrats will take back the house. No candidate is all that great, but if you Republicans decide to support the most conservative candidate you can find, you're certainly digging your own grave. You are not going to get many votes outside of the Republican Party that way. I hope the New Hampshire caucus has different results. Link to comment
sarah_ab Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I am going to be running for president in 2020.... just keep that in mind... Link to comment
Diaper Mike 05 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 LOL, and I can run against you. Let the campaigning begin... (I'd be eligible for 2016 if I was born 10 days earlier because I turn 35 in 2017 when that inauguration would be). Link to comment
Billiardnut Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I didnt support obama before NDAA and will never support him. Link to comment
Diaper Mike 05 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Nobody should have ever been for Obama. With everything about him not adding up, his connections, his beliefs (how about when he told "Joe the Plumber" about how he just wants everyone to have a bigger share of the pie) and the comment his wife made about her only being proud to be an American either after election as President or upon being nominated, he was just a rock star that was elected because he wasn't Bush. Too bad I can't sue for the loss of income his election cost me, it would redo the roof on my house and still have decent money to put in savings. Link to comment
Rihanna Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Nobody should have ever been for Obama. With everything about him not adding up, his connections, his beliefs (how about when he told "Joe the Plumber" about how he just wants everyone to have a bigger share of the pie) and the comment his wife made about her only being proud to be an American either after election as President or upon being nominated, he was just a rock star that was elected because he wasn't Bush. Too bad I can't sue for the loss of income his election cost me, it would redo the roof on my house and still have decent money to put in savings. Well said! I'm not a "birther" because his opponents and news orgs didn't persue it and in today's world it's too easy to create 'real' documents, but there are too many other unanswered questions. Why is there NO "transparent" history? Why have no classmates surfaced? Why have ALL school records been sealed? I could go on, but you get my point. Puppet. "Bigger share of the pie" is a crock! Where does the money come from? Yea, you and me that work for ours. Still PO's me to no end the video clip of some woman at a rally being quoted as saying "Obama will now be paying off my mortgage." Idiots Link to comment
Horndog Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Nobody should have ever been for Obama. With everything about him not adding up, his connections, his beliefs (how about when he told "Joe the Plumber" about how he just wants everyone to have a bigger share of the pie) and the comment his wife made about her only being proud to be an American either after election as President or upon being nominated, he was just a rock star that was elected because he wasn't Bush. Too bad I can't sue for the loss of income his election cost me, it would redo the roof on my house and still have decent money to put in savings. Without context, Obama sounds like one bad dude, doesn't he? Link to comment
Leilin Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Um... what? . Why is there NO "transparent" history? Uh. What exactly are you referring to here? Why have no classmates surfaced? Did you mean college classmates? Perhaps you should stop going to Donald Trump for your "news" and "facts." Why have ALL school records been sealed? FERPA. All of EVERYBODY'S school records are sealed. I could go on, but you get my point. Puppet. You could go on, and considering your previously loose attachment to what those of us who live in the real world call "facts," I recommend it! It would be hilarious! 1 Link to comment
sarah_ab Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I support obama and will be voting for him. 1 Link to comment
Leilin Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I support obama and will be voting for him. What kind of campaign are you running here?! Be proud! Sarah 2012!! Link to comment
sarah_ab Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 lol no no its sarah 2020... i won't be old enough to run until 2020.... but i appreciate the support! 1 Link to comment
babystevie Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Whatever the issue, NO, I do not support Obama and never have. I'll be happy to see his backside go through the door. 1 Link to comment
redneck diaper boy Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Anyone that supports Obama should watch this 1948 animation. Link to comment
sarah_ab Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 yep still support him.... 1 Link to comment
Horndog Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Same here, and I don't have to hide behind a 64-year-old cartoon to explain why I support Obama. 2 Link to comment
Diapered Jason Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Anyone that supports Obama should watch this 1948 animation. I suppose if we had it your way, you would remove any government interference in business, but add additional government interference in private affairs. Now before you say you are not for what I said, this is exactly what your favorite, Ron Paul, is speaking favorably of. For Example, when Ron Paul was asked about what he thinks about the new anti-abortion law in Texas, he said "That should have been our position all along." Ron Paul has taken a pro-life stance, and therefore he has decided for you what is right. Speaking to Republican fiscal policy, we already know supply-side economics was a failure and Ronald Reagon has proven this. David Stockman, one of the architects of supply side economics and budget director for Ronald Reagon, said himself the finanical policies of the government were a failure during the Reagon Administration, because you cannot disregard revenue for the government. Lowering taxes on everyone while creating a balanced budget is not fiscally possible, therefore requiring us to borrow money. Thus Paul Ryan's budget proposal is a bit of a joke. We also have to be careful as excessive austerity measures in the government can result in a recession as is the exact same thing that is happening in England right now. Now I would like to see a smarter government, but cutting off its legs and hands will not get you there. 2 Link to comment
Burp_Cup Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I voted for Obama in '08, and will again! 1 Link to comment
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