Something I Read About And Would Like Your Input.

[toon]

I was reading an interesting article in my favorite mag *psychology today*. It was explaining the core chemistry in sibling relationships and how they effect us and how we see ourselves for the rest of our lives.

Im curious to learn more about some of you. Are you an only child? How do you think that has effected how you see the world around you?

Do you have siblings? Older? Younger? What is your family relationship like as a whole and also how does your position in the sibling age range effect you. Last but not least how do YOU think or feel about whether your sibling age status or lack thereof has effected your life

as an AB/DL? Cause or effect...compare and contrast.

[PArms]

I'm the oldest of four:

Me -31

Sister - 30

Sister - 21 next month

Brother - 17

My mom is third oldest of 8. 4 brothers and 3 sisters.

My dad is middle of 5. 2 sisters and 2 brothers.

Even my stepdad has 2 brothers and a sister.

The older of my sisters and I used to play well together until about the age of 10. Then we started fighting. After she left with her boyfriend during the college years, we got along much better. I have always wanted a family (marriage and kids), she never did. Well, now I'm jealous. She's married with two little girls and I'm as lonely as they come.

I have felt like both a brother and a father figure to my other siblings because of our age differences. That is regardless of the fact that we have different fathers.

As far as this lifestyle is concerned: I still struggle to remember which one I started stealing diapers from.

[sarah_ab]

birth order is very interesting to many in psychology. I read the psychology today article too... i have the subscription... but the thing to be caustious of with psych today is that it is essentially pop psychology..... and so i find that if i look up the research discussed in the article, the findings of the research are not exactly what psych today presented..

although they did a decent job with the birth order article.

myself i'm the youngest, with two older brothers.

however i grew up with an odd family dynamic, since my mother was a therapist with her master of social work, she was aware of the 'birth order effect' and when you become aware of something you unconsciously react....

at any rate, i do not believe that my birth order had any influence on my predisposition to engage in sexual fetish's...

[Angela Bauer]

My parents have six offspring:

Penny born in 1959

Jack born in 1960

Me, Angela, born in 1964

Edward born in 1965

Ruth born in 1967

Missy born in 1969

My mother, Alice (Bremer) Bauer, is the oldest of 4:

Alice born in 1937

Aunt Winifred born in 1940

Aunt Lucile born in 1944

Aunt Betsy born in 1947

My father, John Bauer, was born in 1934. He has an older brother and a younger sister.

All of my mother's sister are urinary incontinent. All of my sisters and Aunt Betsy's daughter Carole (born in 1971) are urinary incontinent. Aunts Winifred and Lucile are childless, as are my sisters Penny and Ruth. Cousin Carole has two daughters who have not reached puberty.

[heartwood]

Youngest of 3.

Me-25

Brother-33

Sister-29

mother was the oldest of two brothers

father was third of four brothers

Family life is keen, full of love and understanding. Mom was diagnosed with cancer in 98 and passed in 05. Forced us to put aside any petty problems and love another.

As far as an affect on my lifestyle.... being the youngest I was always referred to as "the baby"! Hated it and guess that is why I turned out to be dl

[DailyDi]

Youngest of three... but more importantly my Mom admits I got very little babying as my parents divorced while she was preggers and she had to work and was under a lot of stress.

[Burp_Cup]

I was going to give myself a break from 'confessional' type posts (my own thing), but here goes anyway.

I have a sister who is 1 and 1/2 yrs. younger than myself that I grew up with. I always thought that I got more attention than she did because I was the boy, (more on that later). My parents had her help with domestic chores that I was basically exempt from. (i.e. washing dishes, keeping her room clean etc.) This was back in the 1970's and my mom was a stay-at-home mom during this period. When I was about 16 or so, I remember volunteering to help dry dishes etc. as I kind of felt sorry for my sister. My parents just wanted me to do homework pretty much, and indulge myself in hobbies, which at that time was model airplanes along with my dad who was totally into model building.

I also have four half sisters from my dads previous marriage. They are all older than me of course, and I have good relations with two of them currently. Anyway, my dad and his ex apparently had a bitter divorce and after he met my mom, and my sister and myself were around, we all moved from Ohio to Calif. As far away as possible, I guess was the reason.

Anyhoo, I'm the only boy, and I was doted on and maybe... I was spoiled.

As far as wanting to wear diapers goes; I recall feeling kind of jealous when I was about 9 or so when my mom had a friend of hers over with toddler who they were both changing. I don't know what this means... maybe I wished I was that age again or something.

I'm not even sure that I'm 'one of the some' You're interested in hearing about. But, here it is... I kind of had fun writing it anyway, so I'm good.

[chap]

My parents have six offspring:

Penny born in 1959

Jack born in 1960

Me, Angela, born in 1964

Edward born in 1965

Ruth born in 1967

Missy born in 1969

My mother, Alice (Bremer) Bauer, is the oldest of 4:

Alice born in 1937

Aunt Winifred born in 1940

Aunt Lucile born in 1944

Aunt Betsy born in 1947

My father, John Bauer, was born in 1934. He has an older brother and a younger sister.

All of my mother's sister are urinary incontinent. All of my sisters and Aunt Betsy's daughter Carole (born in 1971) are urinary incontinent. Aunts Winifred and Lucile are childless, as are my sisters Penny and Ruth. Cousin Carole has two daughters who have not reached puberty.

Wait a minute. You have a brother called Jack Bauer. Awesome.

(sorry for the off topic post)

[WallaWalla]

I'm an only child.

I think that it conditioned me to expect that people will generally be reasonable if you behave in a manner that is reasonable. I also think that it made me self-reliant and focused on personal improvement. Generally speaking, more introspective all around the board. That being said, I don't think that it made me the least bit selfish. Quite the opposite, I can be dangerously trusting. I think that this is out of a need to 'create a family' in place of the one that I (falsely) feel that I don't have.

[DailyDi]

lol, didn't notice that. I just noticed how "busy" her parents were in the late 60's lol

[AutieAB]

I have one sister, born after me. I was 2½ when she was born. I always knew that I was an early potty trainer, before I turned two (so before my sister was born). Recently though, my mother admitted that I was put back in diapers briefly because I "regressed" (her word) a for a bit shortly after. I'd wager that was when my sister was born and (inevitably) got more attention than me.

Whether this was a formative experience for my ABDL tendencies, I've no idea

[turtlepins]

Since I've discussed this at length with both my psychiatrist and my psychologist I'm fairly convinced I don't belong in your study group. I didn't really have a normal family relationship or sibling relationship at any time in my life. That often gives me great sadness.

I was born 30 months after my sister, Lois, and 38 months after her daddy, my mother's hubby was incarcerated in the state penitentiary for a 5-year sentence, of which he served all 5 years. My brother, Paul, was born two=years and 11 months after me. I was never potty trained or taught anything until after my adoption at age 6. Paul and I were separated from our sister at adoption, and I didn't even remember I had a sister until I was 17 and my parents dropped the bomb that I was adopted, and introduced us. We did not bond, as the first thing she noticed was that I was wearing diapers and made one of the comments she'd heard from our biological mother years before. I retreated, frightened and hurt and crying. We've never made contact since.

My younger brother and I did not get along well either. We spent our adult years as total strangers. Of the three of us I was the only one who had a healthy family (married in 1974 and still loving and courting the same woman • three children who are healthy in their relationships with us, each other, and their wives (my daughter is yet unmarried) • and living above the poverty level. My wife is a teacher turned principal on the elementary level and I'm a retired teacher turned writer, grant coordinator, family needs specialist, and project manager for a non-profit organization. My younger brother died in April of a heart attack in his sleep and I paid for his funeral. I was unable to contact our sister to let her know of his passing, nor do I know if she is still alive.

My infantilism did not strike until a series of TIAs at age 50 when all my repressed memories came flooding back and sent me literally over the edge of sanity. It was the love of my wife, children, and dear friends that saw me through it and back to a semblance of sanity. Hope this helps a little. Good thread.

[curiositykilledthecat]

I'm the youngest of three, the first one died after birth.

My dad is the oldest and my mom was the middle child.

My mom had her tubes tied after having me, so I can only postulate that I scared them into not trying for another son.(I think my old man has bad sperm when it comes to this, first son dies and I'm a sickly little thing. I would never tell him this though)

[Jen Harris]

Interesting but true - everyone in my family or romantically involved with my family has exactly one younger brother. Except my own younger brother of course.

That goes for our parents both, and both of our girlfriends.

[WallaWalla]

Interesting but true - everyone in my family or romantically involved with my family has exactly one younger brother. Except my own younger brother of course.

That goes for our parents both, and both of our girlfriends.

Even the younger brothers in your family?

[Jen Harris]

Even the younger brothers in your family?

I meant of my direct family and romantic relations. Obviously my two uncles are both younger brothers to my parents.

I suppose the other exception would be one of our two dogs, if you count them as brothers.

[fluff]

I'm an only child to a single parent family.

I'm 21. My mother 50.

However my extended family is very large. But most live overseas and those that are local I don't get along with.

That might explain the AB side?

[Guest lilme]

I suppose my family dynamic might be kind of interesting in several aspects. I have 3 older brothers who have a different father than I do, and a younger sis.

Gary) 1-20-1970

Stewart) 2-3-1974

Adam) 2-6-1976

Me) 1-11-1979

Abby) 1-31-1982

What's immediately noticable is that all our birthdays are very close together. What's even more interesting is that trend extends beyond my bro's and sis. Most parts of our family are in the first couple of months of the year for births. I guess our family likes to get busy in the spring

Second noticable thing, my poor sis is the youngest and only girl. We have discussed at lentgh in our family the impact that would have on a child (things like that fascinate us).

Now, my three older bros have a different father than my sis and I. My mother and my father are still together and happily married . My three older bros and I and my sis all grew up together. My father took on 3 kids that weren't his own and NEVER, *EVER*, showed partiality in any way shape or form. My bros have even said, they know who their biological father is, but they know who their Dad is . We don't even see ourselves as half siblings, that was never in our thought system. Those lugs will be my blood brothers till the day I die. lol. We're all very close.

An intersting point. I have had AB desires since the day I was taken out of diapers as a kid. I can remember finding a diaper at the age of 4 or 5 and being fascinated with it. I just didn't know it had a name or that other people were into it until I was about 18 and the internet came around. But, I have come to the conclusion that either I felt these desires out of a mere middle child syndrome, or ... my sis was born right at about the time I was potty trained, we also fought like cats and dogs growing up lol. I teased her horribly growing up (we're tight now lol). Might have been a jelously thing even tho there was no real need to feel that way.

Anyways, those are my thoughts and where I'm coming from with family dynamics.

~lilme

[Yvhuce]

I was reading an interesting article in my favorite mag *psychology today*. It was explaining the core chemistry in sibling relationships and how they effect us and how we see ourselves for the rest of our lives.

Im curious to learn more about some of you. Are you an only child? How do you think that has effected how you see the world around you?

Do you have siblings? Older? Younger? What is your family relationship like as a whole and also how does your position in the sibling age range effect you. Last but not least how do YOU think or feel about whether your sibling age status or lack thereof has effected your life

as an AB/DL? Cause or effect...compare and contrast.

I'm the oldest of 2. We're both adopted (and thus can realistically disown eachother and the rest of our family).

My brother is 11 years younger than me.

My family dynamic is fucked up, and got more fucked up when my brother came along. Suddenly, I could do no right, and my brother could do no wrong... Until I moved out, that was the new status quo. It's gotten a bit better since I'm no longer living there, but we can't all be in the same place for more than a day or so without some sort of big fight getting kicked up. Usually by my mom, who loves to gripe and needle people until they snap.

My family is completely anti-diaper, so it's not something to be mentioned in their presence. I gave up diapers after they found them, despite me hiding them in places that no sane person would think to look for anything (we're fairly sure that my mom should be committed at times), until after I'd moved out. As such, I really didn't have any real chance to explore the AB/DL thing until I was on my own. I do recall having been curious about diapers since I was little (many years before my brother was born), so I don't attribute any part of it to my brother. I'm not qualified to make a call about the rest of the family, though... Possibly, something to do with the extreme stress in the house may have fostered a need for escapism of sorts or something...

[grayfile]

I have an older brother (by a different father) and a younger brother. I am techincaly the middle child. I dont think my brothers ages effected my desire for diapers. My older brother had kids while I was still fairly young and living at home and my mother would baby sit and there was usually a supply of diapers at my house that I could pilfer one or two that would not be missed.

I am pretty shure that my older brother knows nothing about my diaper interest, but I think my younger brother knew or at least suspected when we were growing up. I even think that he took a few of my diapers at one point, but I cant say for sure.

Now when we get together nothing is said, and I prefer to keep it that way. Also, I know my dad knows as he caught me twice when I was living at home, and Im pretty sure that my Mom knows as well. Luckly they have chosen not to say anything and I am happy that they have deciced not to say anything.

Sometimes I wonder if anyone else in my extended family is into diapers since one christmas when I was about 6 or 7 (might even have been a little older) my grandma gave my brother, and my two girl cousins and me each a box of pampers. I can still rember opening them and wondering why she gave me diapers for christmas? I never found out the reason and it just struck me as a little odd. I do rember that I was happy to get them.

[Yvhuce]

Sometimes I wonder if anyone else in my extended family is into diapers since one christmas when I was about 6 or 7 (might even have been a little older) my grandma gave my brother, and my two girl cousins and me each a box of pampers. I can still rember opening them and wondering why she gave me diapers for christmas? I never found out the reason and it just struck me as a little odd. I do rember that I was happy to get them.

1: She may have known and didn't want it to look suspicious by just giving them to you.

2: Could just be one of those "old people brain farts". Sometimes our older relatives give us gifts that're greatly out of date or generally not age-appropriate (usually focusing on an earlier time in our life). Could also have been something like Alzheimers.

3: Gag gift.

4: Usually, one's parents would take such inappropriate gifts and have them returned and buy you something else... Lucky you if they let you keep them.

[TheMagicDragon]

I somehow missed this thread. Toons' my buddy and its been years since I've talked about this so here goes, in a nutshell:

I was born late in '62, the oldest of three. My sister was born in '64 and younger brother in '68. I have been into diapers and plastic panties (as my mom and grandma called them) since being rather forcibly (Thanks again, Dr. Spock for the weaning paranoia!) out of cloth diaps and plastic panties at the age of three - around the time my sister was an infant and wearing the latest disposable diapers (sans plastic panties).

I was VERY jealous of my sister. My perception was that the focus of everyone's attention shifted completely from me (the first boy) to the new girl.

This jealousy was so ingrained that we fought like cats and dogs until the advent of adulthood. I also like to cross-dress mostly due to the same reason. I was always interested in my sister's nice things, underwear and girly clothes, and toys.

This has profoundly affected my sexuality. I felt I had to "act" all macho as an adult because I have had to repress it all. Talk about unhappy camping - I had to be an asshole I suppose. Now that I'm in my fourties and am in my third marriage things have finally begun to change. About fifteen years ago I came to the realization that I was not alone, there were websites and support groups out there, and that I did not have to live unhappily ever after. I met my current wife, made it through grad school (MBA) (No, not MAB, but then again maybe?), worked harder, bought a house, started a business. At the same time I began to order cases of diapers to wear at night, visited websites like DPF, began to attend a new AB/DL social support munch (SIDNY) in NYC and made some real diaper friends, and introduced my fiance (now wife) to my AB/DL interests. Damn glad I did all that!

Some bad stuff has happened, my business failed, we lost our house & almost everything we had - we're squeezing by but we still have each other!

Some really great things have also happened. My wife is very suportive of my needs - as I am of hers - and she's actually into babying me! I'm finally free to live in diapers completely or however I like. I'm also able to cross-dress as I like when its discreet or at home because she understands it is something that's a part of my makeup. Another great, fantastic thing has happened - I've been able to meet many AB/DLs and Age-players too! Like Billy and his mommy, for example. And that's another thread in itself, too big for this overstuffed nutshell!

As Diapered Fairy says, "you can't stop the signal!"

So why not enjoy it?

[timmyc]

I am the middle of three, growing up I had classic Jan Brady syndrome.

[Bettypooh]

How did I miss this thread when it started? I'm the youngest of four. My brother, the oldest, and I were never close due to the age difference. My two sisters are much closer now- like best friends- but as kids the opposite was true Mom had one each from her first marriage who were adopted locally. We all knew each other but they were more like cousins. I was the baby of the family and I took a lot of crap over that That term hurt me deeply because of my bed and pants wetting With brother moved away and Dad dead, my later childhood was with girls only in the house They were maturing and as we all know that means sexier clothing. That appealed to me and the opportinuty was there so I think it had a lot to do with my early crossdressing but I was always drawn to girly things in life, and as society called for back then I was denied them completely

As far as diapers go I guess the only part my childhood played is that I wasn't allowed them though I needed them badly After growing up and making peace with my gender, it was easier to try and accept diapers Maybe the early denial of them had something to do with this, maybe not.

I think birth order has little to do with anything so long as you weren't an isolated only child. Most people had close relations with girls and boys, younger and older, growing up so that there was little adjustment to do I know all kinds of people from all positions in birth order and there seems to be no pattern to it save that the oldest siblings tend to be more assertive Even that doesn't always hold true- often the reverse happens because they had this forced on them growing up In my family the second oldest (sister) is the most settled and mature and the third oldest (also my sister) the least. I was the wildest and boldest (youngest) with the oldest (brother) plain and almost boring

It makes no sense 'cept that we're all humans so there are no rules Be yourself and have fun

Bettypooh