Foley catheter question

[frostydog]

I’d like to try a Foley catheter with diapers (I have a horrible time peeing normally, much more diapered up and normally have to force it…. Which occasionally works.);I would like to stimulate urinary incontinence plus I’d like to be able to sleep through the whole night without having to get up to use the bathroom every hour, on the hour. Where do I find one/several? I don’t have a prescription and I highly doubt that doctor will give me one for this. Sorry if this is an inappropriate question but not sure where else to ask.

To be clear: I’m looking for a set of caths and the whole kit required to properly use them. I know there is a risk of uti’s doing this improperly and I’d like to minimize that as much as possible.

[BG83]

Have tried foley catheter a few times and it doesn't work well for me, getting bladderspasms when the balloon is inflated cause a lot of discomfort, my recommendation is to try a intermittent catheter together with a chasity cage to keep it in, I've had catheter in since Monday and have almost no feeling of the catheter, the cage is only needed for the first day after that it is not necessary as the catheter stays in place by itself after a while, love the feeling of being incontinent and diaper dependent

[frostydog]

Particular company/size you’d recommend?

[Cathlover]

On 11/29/2024 at 8:30 AM, BG83 said:

Have tried foley catheter a few times and it doesn't work well for me, getting bladderspasms when the balloon is inflated cause a lot of discomfort, my recommendation is to try a intermittent catheter together with a chasity cage to keep it in, I've had catheter in since Monday and have almost no feeling of the catheter, the cage is only needed for the first day after that it is not necessary as the catheter stays in place by itself after a while, love the feeling of being incontinent and diaper dependent

Perhaps the volume of the balloon was too big.
I also had the same issue with 30ml ballons. After I changed to catheters with 10-15ml balloon I had no more problems with bladder spasm.

[Diaper-Mark]

typical size for men is 14-16 FR.  you could start to 12 FR and see how it goes.  as far as balloon size, larger is fine.  if you feel like a full balloon is causing bladder issues try filling the balloon to a lower amount.

[BG83]

I'm using 12FR and thats works great for me, and there is a risk to get UTI so my recomandation is to never use it for more than a day or two if you draining in a diapers before taking it out and let the bladder retain normal bacteria for atleast a week, I have used it one time for 4 days and got a heavy UTI and pyelonephritis

[tverra]

If you do it the holey foley way with a hole below the sphincter and plugged outlet the risk of uti is reduced. Have done it for years and keep them for one to two weeks before replacing, have not had any uti yet.

[BG83]

Sound something i want to try, what are you using to make the holes and prevent sharp edges?

[padded-nightly]

Where do you buy them from?

 

Can't buy on amazon, "Available with an Amazon Business account and healthcare license."

[JunkyardDog1]

Indemedical.com

[Don Incognito]

I've also been curious about the holey Foley thing, and how to smooth out the edges of the hole (seeing as sandpaper doesn't work on something as soft as silicone). Searching through previous threads, I found one post suggesting the use of a lighter flame to melt the silicone around the hole - would a soldering iron work for that?

 

Also, is there any one brand of catheter that's better than the others?

[padded-nightly]

 

Fucked around, I guess I'm gonna find out.

Been wearing 24/7 for the past few weeks and it sucks to wake up at night to pee.

[padded-nightly]

Had these delivered yesterday morning and already used a few.

 

Starting to wonder if I shouldn't have gotten foley/indwelling caths instead of intermittent ones. I was very fearful of the idea of having to inflate the balloon inside me and what might go wrong if I inflated the balloon while it was still in the urethra or if it somehow got pulled out with the balloon was inflated. Terrified me.

 

The intermittent caths seem to have two downsides, firstly I think they are made of more rigid material than foley caths. It seems to irritate the tip of my penis but I think long term I will get used to this without much issue. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, they fall out.

Without the balloon holding things out the catheter just falls out. It's a bit annoying.

The various different models of catheters also all definitely have different levels of comfort here.

First one I tried was the LoFric Orgio 10fr, that was reasonably comfortable and I managed to leave it in for about 3 hours before I had to leave home so I removed it.

Last night just before bedtime I inserted one of the SpeediCath, in a smaller size (the 8fr one), and while the insertion was extremely comfortable the actual tip of it is a much harder plastic/rubber and it was extremely uncomfortable. In addition, I think the fact that it was a smaller size meant that it moved. A lot. It was eventually too uncomfortable and distracting and so I removed it and went to sleep.

Inserted one of the Magic3 caths (12fr!) this morning. Very large. Kind of intimidating. Was quite a bit more difficult to insert than either of the first two (especially the 8fr SpeediCath) but it only took a few minutes. Much more comfortable profile, unlike the other two this is just a silicone tube with a flared silicone base and no hard plastic on the end. I've had it in for the past 4ish hours during meetings and its been quite comfortable. After a few hours the tip is starting to irritate a small bit, but, not uncomfortable. It doesn't seem to fall out nearly as much, perhaps because it's much larger than the 8fr one.

Very interesting experience so far, definitely glad I tried this but not sure how much I will use this long term. Part of why I like wearing diapers is because I enjoy actually peeing them. The catheter completely removes any feeling of peeing. You just end up with a wet diaper. I've been doing this for long enough that I don't have any huge hangups about wetting in any situation where I'm wearing a diaper so it doesn't add anything in that regard. If I can find a method of actually sleeping with one of these in and I can wet in my sleep without waking up, that would be great.

I've been meticulous when inserting to avoid infection. I wash my hands, I wash my groin area, wash my hands, clean off the head of the penis, wear latex gloves before inserting. I don't want to get a UTI.

I ordered and have been taking daily cranberry supplements. 

I ordered, and have in stock, some antibiotics in the event that both of these are unsuccessful.

Overall, interesting experience, will continue to try with it. Will probably add-in some foley caths next.

[Don Incognito]

On 2/20/2025 at 10:40 AM, padded-nightly said:

Very interesting experience so far, definitely glad I tried this but not sure how much I will use this long term. Part of why I like wearing diapers is because I enjoy actually peeing them. The catheter completely removes any feeling of peeing. 

That's the idea behind the "holey Foley" thing, to poke a hole midway so that the pee flows through the rest of your urethra instead of straight out the catheter.

[padded-nightly]

Holey foley scares me a bit. Too worried about the catheter splitting in half from being weakened and breaking off inside me.

 

Having to go to the ER to have half a catheter removed from my dick because I stuck it up there for a fetish is a worst case scenario. Yes, I'm sure the people in the ER have seen worse, doesn't mean I want to do it.

 

Took a bit of a break from this in general. I was never able to find any comfortable method of wearing for more than 3-4 hours before it started to fall out and the tip of my penis also would become very irritated and painful.

[padded-nightly]

By taping the end of the catheter to the tip of my penis I was able to prevent the catheter from migrating and since things weren't moving at all, it actually made it significantly more comfortable!

Was able to sleep most of the night with the catheter in! Did not have to wake up to pee!

[padded-nightly]

While intently ignoring the title of this post, I'd like to complain that nobody pointed out foley catheters.

This is far more comfortable than any of the intermittent caterers I tried.

For reference, I'm using a Bard Silicone 2-Way Foley Catheter 5 cc, went in super easy and inflating the balloon was completely comfortable as well.

[Spargano]

There’s a metric ton of info on this topic in this forum. If you do a search on catheters you will find loads. Intermittent catheters are not designed for what you wanted.

be careful with the foley that you don’t get a uti

[padded-nightly]

2 hours ago, Spargano said:

be careful with the foley that you don’t get a uti

I've been taking daily cranberry supplements for a week or so now. Being very careful with cleanliness with insertion as well. I have some antibiotics on hand in case as well.

 

2 hours ago, Spargano said:

Intermittent catheters are not designed for what you wanted

Yeah, the thing is, I was petrified of inflating the balloon and having it be in the urethra and not the bladder, or, being unable to deflate it to remove the catheter! Intermittent caths seemed like they would avoid both issues, and it did, but the downsides were crazy lol.

Inflation was a total non-issue, just pushed the plunger in very very slowly and had no pain or discomfort doing it.

Removal, we shall see, but I'm a lot less worried at this point, and, this is so comfortable that I don't think it's an issue I'm going to have to deal with for a while!

[Spargano]

Glad you found the size that works for you  my bladder always wanted to expel it so I I was very uncomfortable with the catheter.
 

thankfully I do not have that issue with my stent.

while it might seem silly now, looking at how easy it was to handle the balloon, it’s very good that you are cautious  

[JunkyardDog1]

I've been working up in size. Had a 26 in yesterday and overnight. I love the full feeling and the obvious lack of control. Might get brave enough one day to make a stent. Enjoy what makes you happy. Try different things regardless of what people say. Just be clean. 

[pantyman]

I have been playing with catheters for a couple years now. I Can put a 30 FR in with no warm up or numbing. Would that large one? I tend to get an occasional bladder spasm. But if I want to wear long-term a 24fr is the most comfortable for me

[padded-nightly]

On 3/2/2025 at 1:01 PM, pantyman said:

I Can put a 30 FR in with no warm up or numbing

On 3/1/2025 at 8:00 AM, JunkyardDog1 said:

Had a 26 in yesterday and overnight

I'm at 12fr and *that* was not the most comfortable thing in the world to put in! 30fr is 2.5x larger!

ChatGPT told me that catheter size doesn't correlate to penis size, but, I think it was just trying to make me feel better! 30fr sounds intimidating.

I was ultimately able to comfortably tolerate the 12fr catheter without any serious issues for the past four-ish days. The whole thing was comfortable enough that I basically did my full daily routines without any issues. This was lots of work, meetings and stuff (all virtual the last few days), but also some out-of-the-house stuff like shopping and went to see a movie (The Last Breath -- recommend it!).

On Saturday afternoon I was hydrating significantly and after I finished working I stood up from my desk, I realized I was soaked and leaking so much that there was a literal puddle on the floor. I had literally no idea it was happening. Really intoxicating experience.

I got unexpectedly pulled into a call the other day while changing my diaper and had to stop. Before I thought about it, the catheter was leaking and I had a stream of pee running onto the floor and a (much smaller) puddle. 

I had no issues with the bladder trying to expel the catheter like others were talking about. Both of the kinds of foley caths I tried were very comfortable but the Bard all-silicone one was a bit softer and I think more comfortable.

I had some in-person meetings today and did not want the distraction so I'm currently catheter-free. I was also a bit worried that I might have lost some control after being cath'd for four days, but, nope. I'm still in a diaper of course, but, totally in control.

Did not have any of this on my 2025 bingo card. 

[keyman419]

3 hours ago, padded-nightly said:

I realized I was soaked and leaking so much that there was a literal puddle on the floor. I had literally no idea it was happening. Really intoxicating experience.

The entire concept of having zero control and allowing your body to release that urine is in fact intoxicating for sure. Realizing there's nothing you need to do and just allow your body to function is a very freeing feeling. I was that way for the month I had the stent installed but I had no sensations of the stent, just dribbling into my diaper 24/7. I would wake up soaked in the morning and sometimes overflowing with no ability to change it. Keep up the great work.

A 12fr is a pretty small cath for a male. Sometimes the smaller ones are less comfortable because of the movement in your urethra. Give a 14 or a 16 a try sometime when you are ready and you may find a different sensation from those. Keep us informed and congrats for being in the cath club. Next time will be a full week or more and you'll trust and enjoy your diapers more.

[padded-nightly]

So strange.

Just inserted one of the 14fr intermittent caths to see what it would feel like, if it was too large/difficult to insert, etc.

It was actually LESS painful and LESS difficult to insert than the smaller catheters.

More investigation required.