Toilet Removal

[willnotwill]

Our code is statewide (the county doesn't have any local amendments). And the state codes are pretty much unmolested from the model codes (NEC, IRC). But you are right. IRC R306.1 says you need at least one toilet, sink, and bathtub or shower in each dwelling unit.

 

[foreverdl]

On 6/9/2024 at 9:07 PM, Babypants said:

My experience is exactly the opposite.  The inspector routinely checks the fire and radon detectors, regardless of whether the permit is for interior or exterior work.  Obviously, there are a wide range of possibilities here, which is why I stress the need for this individual to check the code in his particular municipality.  It infuriates me that I cannot park an RV in my driveway, but across the street, in a different municipality, several of my neighbors can and do.  Never take anything for granted when dealing with local codes. 

I will say every inspector is different , I have had an inspector com in and say I need to do this or that, I fix them and call for a new appointment , a different guy says I need to do something else, and I say well why do you guy keep wasting my time, the last guy saw that and said nothing . And if the guy is in a hurry that day etc ... Also I do agree that no one should remove the toilet , I can have issues they don't want. 

[willnotwill]

Usually, around here they spend no more time than they absolutely have to.   I've been on site when they were scheduled to come and get electronic notification that the inspection has been completed before I even notice they were there.

 

[Babypants]

54 minutes ago, foreverdl said:

Also I do agree that no one should remove the toilet , I can have issues they don't want. 

It should be simple to box it off.  Buy a sheet of half inch plywood.  Cut identical pieces for front and back, and a second pair of identical pieces for the sides.  Calculate where on the rear you need to cut a hole for the line, then disconnect the line at the shut off valve thread it through the hole, and reconnect.  Drill holes for screws every four inches, and assemble.  Cut out the top piece, and fasten with hinges on the side abutting the wall.  Attach a simple locking mechanism on the side away from the wall, and use a heavy duty padlock to finish.  Leave the key in someplace secure but difficult to reach, like a safety deposit box.  For a still more secure box, use solder to destroy the screw heads. 

 

56 minutes ago, foreverdl said:

Also I do agree that no one should remove the toilet , I can have issues they don't want.

 

[foreverdl]

Well why not just lock the bathroom Door, and or ignore that room??? why damage the home in any way??

[Dartplayerinwvc]

On 6/9/2024 at 11:39 AM, Alyeskabird said:

Something to consider as well, if they declear your house to be uninhabitable, they will evict you with no notice at all. No choice eather.

It does change from state to state in the US, so you might want to check. Your best bet is to lock the potty and figure out how to work around things without removing it. In a more rural area you might be able to get away with an outhouse.

 

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[BabyJune]

On 6/7/2024 at 1:32 AM, Njdiaper2020 said:

So I have a very wonderful and loving abdl girlfriend that uses her diapers for their intended purpose,  we only wear underwear to work. She brought up the subject today on removing the toilet out of our bathroom and replacing it with a changing table. It’s the only bathroom currently in the house.  The toilet is normally shut off and drained except for water in the bowl.  Has anyone completely removed their toilet and plugged the drain for it?  

It would be a code violation to remove a toilet permanently. Do it whily ou live ther,but it would have to be reinstlled when yo go to sel the house.

[diaperguy85]

People on here are making it sound like home inspectors do random inspections and can bust in at any moment! 

Inspections happen when you put your house on the market. Personally, as long as they're living there, and own the house (not rent), I'm pretty sure they can do nearly whatever they want to their house. As long as their house has a functioning toilet if/when they go to sell it, all's well. Kinda feel bad for any non-diapered visitors they might get! Hopefully they have another bathroom!

I'm with @Babypants, though. If I found myself in the same situation, building a semi-permanent changing table around and over the toilet would probably be a better option. If anything, replace the current toilet with the smallest toilet they can find, then build the table. Although, removing it all together seems like an adventure.

[ValentinesStuff]

26 minutes ago, diaperguy85 said:

People on here are making it sound like home inspectors do random inspections and can bust in at any moment! 

Inspections happen when you put your house on the market. Personally, as long as they're living there, and own the house (not rent), I'm pretty sure they can do nearly whatever they want to their house. As long as their house has a functioning toilet if/when they go to sell it, all's well. Kinda feel bad for any non-diapered visitors they might get! Hopefully they have another bathroom!

I'm with @Babypants, though. If I found myself in the same situation, building a semi-permanent changing table around and over the toilet would probably be a better option. If anything, replace the current toilet with the smallest toilet they can find, then build the table. Although, removing it all together seems like an adventure.

Just pointing out the law. Plus there's always someone else finding out, Cable guy that needs to take a piss, or whatever. Personally I'd rather have the changing table in my nursery near my crib.

[Babypants]

I had two inspectors in last month.  One came in, took about 30 seconds to check a major plumbing overhaul that involved shutting off the main out at the curb, and vanished.  He was from the city.

Two days later, an inspector arrived from a state agency to sign off on a new furnace and AC unit.  He took the time to check that the fire and radon detectors were all installed where required by law, and in good working order.

Trying to predict what an inspector will do once inside your home is a fool's errand.  The critical thing is to know whether, as a matter of statute or regulation in your state, a house will be condemned if there is no toilet on the premises.   

[foreverdl]

1 hour ago, Babypants said:

I had two inspectors in last month.  One came in, took about 30 seconds to check a major plumbing overhaul that involved shutting off the main out at the curb, and vanished.  He was from the city.

Two days later, an inspector arrived from a state agency to sign off on a new furnace and AC unit.  He took the time to check that the fire and radon detectors were all installed where required by law, and in good working order.

Trying to predict what an inspector will do once inside your home is a fool's errand.  The critical thing is to know whether, as a matter of statute or regulation in your state, a house will be condemned if there is no toilet on the premises.   

Yes the inspector will come in to check the repairs made, But if he or she walks by the bathroom ?? or asked to use it? they will report it as not passable , They are obligated to look at the house, if they sign the paperwork saying they inspected it and then something goes wrong, they can be liable . I know you sing  the home inspection also and who's to say that you did the damage of removing the toilet its there word against yours. But I do agree that different states are different . Like if you have a cabin in the mountains with no plumbing it's your choice . But an open sewer pipe is not safe. I still say build the diaper changing table over the top of the toilet . 🚽 I do also agree that if you own not rent, and you never have any repairs done or any repairmen that ask to use it, you can be just fine.

[Babypants]

7 minutes ago, foreverdl said:

I do also agree that if you own not rent, and you never have any repairs done or any repairmen that ask to use it, you can be just fine.

Which, in practical terms, is impossible.  Even if you do the work yourself, you still need a permit, and that ALWAYS triggers an on site inspection.  And then there are the updates carried out by the utilities, which you cannot duck and which also finish with an inspection.  Last year in my case, it was a new water meter.

[diaperguy85]

Hmm.... so it appears a removable built-over changing table will probably be the best option. Good stuff! 😀

[foreverdl]

On 7/12/2024 at 5:33 PM, Babypants said:

Which, in practical terms, is impossible.  Even if you do the work yourself, you still need a permit, and that ALWAYS triggers an on site inspection.  And then there are the updates carried out by the utilities, which you cannot duck and which also finish with an inspection.  Last year in my case, it was a new water meter.

Well here as long as the job the Owner of the home that lives in it, is doing is not something structural or something that really requires an inspection then you as the owner will not have to worry about an inspection ..... Heck I did a complete bathroom remodel years ago on an older home, and Never had any inspection done, I sold that home, and had no problems selling it, it passed with flying colors. It will all consider what you are doing and where you live, as I have said.I Still say do a build over the toilet 🚽 table. Just to be safe. 

[Pelusban]

The thing is, if you are desperate, for peeing you can still use the sink, the bathtub, the shower tray, anything that has a sewer pipe connection. For the second diaper business this is more difficult though. So in my opinion, it is better to restrict the access to the whole bathroom itself. Just lock the door and be sure the key is not easily reachable. And if by chance you have a traditional (not corner) bathtub, I'd prefer to put a removable cover over it as a changing table instead. The material should be full waterproof, I think it is not a good idea to use plywood in contact with water.

Also, you can transform the toilet to be a potty, or at least to look like one.

[foreverdl]

I don't know what state or city you live in , BUT Pleas look up your City's ordinances ,, Before you make the Biggest Mistake you will make int this part of your life. I think if you remove the toilet down the road I will get to say I Told You Sooo