Had to get a new PC

[id0ntknow]

My computer looks like it finally bit the dust, or is going to anyway. It looks like it's hardware failing on it. I went ahead and bit the bullet on a new computer, having Geek Squad put it together for me, since I don't have the knowledge or eyesight for doing that myself. Here are the specs on the new one.
Case: Asus Tuf Gaming GT501
Mobo: MSI B450 Gaming Plus
Ram: 64GB Crucial 3200Mhz
GPU: PNY Geforce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB GDDR6
PSU: EVGA 1000GT 
Storage: Samsung Evo 870 SSD 2TB x 2
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X 8 Core 3.8GHz
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120mm
OS: Windows 11 Home
Fans: Thermaltake Riing Trio 120mm RGB x 6

I love that this case has carry straps, and dust covers. I'm still thinking about getting 3 more fans for the top, as it doesn't have anything there at the moment. This pc is also a LOT quieter than the old one, and even a tiny bit lighter weight too.

[DailyDi]

That's some nice gear! Should do you just fine.

[id0ntknow]

Getting some of my games reinstalling now through Steam, but they are downloading pretty slowly to be honest. Not sure what that's about, but I'm curious to see if DOOM 2016 runs again. It quit working on the old pc, and I'm hopeful that this build can run it properly.

[absorbance irrigator]

Thats a nice new build!
Enjoy !

[DailyDi]

5 hours ago, id0ntknow said:

Getting some of my games reinstalling now through Steam, but they are downloading pretty slowly to be honest. Not sure what that's about, but I'm curious to see if DOOM 2016 runs again. It quit working on the old pc, and I'm hopeful that this build can run it properly.

Hmm. I assume its not your internet speed or you'd of said so. I would think those solid state drives would handle incoming data fine, though maybe consider splurging for a NVME for your main drive.

[id0ntknow]

I have an update on this PC. I had it for around 6 months, and it started BSoDing on me. Took it to Geek Squad, since they know more about this kind of stuff than I do. They did diagnostics, and didn't really find much going wrong, and said that it didn't BSoD for them. I got it back, and it worked for about a week. Then the BSoDs started up again. I thought maybe bad motherboard, since it is the oldest part in the PC. They checked it out again, and told me that the RAM was bad. I've now purchased new RAM, 64GB of Crucial DDR4. It seems to be working good again. My question now is this: How do I regain my trust in this PC again? It cost way too much to not be working properly, and I am now always thinking "is it going to mess up again, and when?" Another question I have is kinda two fold. When it boots up now, an LED light comes on on the motherboard, which I believe is for RAM, but then it goes out shortly after. I also am being told by the system analyzer on my anti-virus software that there is low physical memory. Two of the RAM slots on the motherboard won't allow it to click into place properly, so they aren't being used. Could this maybe be why I'm seeing that message about low memory?

Sorry if this was kinda rambling on. I just wanted to ask about some things on my mind with this new PC.

[DailyDi]

Loose RAM could definitely be causing the error. If the sticks aren't being used, I'd remove them.

[id0ntknow]

I noticed that 2 of the ram slots on the motherboard don't let the ram click in place properly, but the other 2 do. I am using the better 2 slots, and the ram appears to be holding in place solidly now. Just after I got done making my update post, I got another BSoD. I am using Webroot for anti-virus, and am considering getting a year of Trend Micro to try as well. So far Webroot isn't showing any threats being found. I have done multiple scans of the computer, including deep scans (which look for rootkits, trojans, etc.) and nothing has been found. I don't know what to do anymore. I am thinking it could be motherboard, since it is the oldest part in here. At the same time, I don't really want to buy new hardware that won't be returnable if it doesn't fix the issue. I am baffled as to how the PC ran perfectly fine for about 6 months, and now I never know if I will get a BSoD or not. I haven't changed anything about my web browsing habits from the old computer which never BSoDd, but would freeze a lot. I am at a complete loss, and I don't really want to take it back to Geek Squad since I don't believe it will be fixed when I get it back.

 

[adam4landry]

I myself got a new gaming laptop last year for my birthday 🎂 i can now play a lot of my games on higher settings because of my GeForce RTX 2040 4GB, the only thing that I was not happy with was the hard drive it only has about 240gb and it was a ssd so i got myself a 5TB gaming external hard drive and downloaded all my 145 games on it plus if my gaming laptop ever gets broken or something else all my games will be stored on my gaming hard drive. There is a very interesting feature to my gaming laptop it has a thunderbolt 4 USB type c on it according to the instructions that port will allow me to plug in a external Graphics card device from what I’ve heard on YouTube some people use this feature to play a lot of Super Powerful AAA games on there low budget gaming laptop, I might purchase a external graphics card in the future I made a little mistake on a new game that was release and I forgot to read the requirements to play that boy did my face palm 🤦 extremely hurt oh well what done is done.

[id0ntknow]

I have another update for you all. I have installed Trend Micro as well, and it did find and remove a piece of spyware from a drive with stuff from my old computer. So far at least, the computer appears to be working again. Fingers crossed that it stays operational this time, since I am getting very tired of what has been going on with it. I would also rather not have to take it back to geek squad again. The new ram is Crucial 64GB 3200Mhz, so a little bit slower than the previous stuff, but it doesn't seem to be hurting anything so far.

[Dubious]

Always buy ram that is tested on the motherboard.
You find a list on the mobo website. 
But then again, if you buy known brands they are most likely tested. 

The mobo is from 2019. 
CPU from 2020, not that that matter, but CPU cant be upgraded since mobo is so old. 

[DailyDi]

[id0ntknow]

3 hours ago, DailyDi said:

Nice one Mikey. I went to Best Buy today to exchange an SSD that was the wrong size, and pick up a couple things as well. I saw a "thumb" drive that was no bigger than my thumbnail, and it was at least 256GB. That's crazy. I'd lose that thing in a heartbeat.

[DailyDi]

3 hours ago, id0ntknow said:

Nice one Mikey. I went to Best Buy today to exchange an SSD that was the wrong size, and pick up a couple things as well. I saw a "thumb" drive that was no bigger than my thumbnail, and it was at least 256GB. That's crazy. I'd lose that thing in a heartbeat.

Yeh those nano thumbs are insane, I'd loose them for sure.

[id0ntknow]

Computer just restarted again. I got an error message about ntoskrnl.exe. I wonder if this motherboard could be killing the ram put into it? I hope that this new ram isn't going bad too.

[2sail2]

Make sure you have latest bios.

Make sure you have approved / tested memory:

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-GAMING-PLUS/support#mem

If you have two sticks, try one at a time.

Otherwise  https://www.memtest86.com/

[id0ntknow]

This time I got a look at the error message. It said PFN LIST CORRUPT. Could this be hardware related still, or something else?

[SparklyPrincess]

I've always built my own machines and largely, they've been trouble-free but I'm now at a stage where when I need to upgrade, I'm gonna go to an expert shop and just buy one off the rack. I'm always paranoid about temperatures so I check HWMonitor and MSI Afterburner. Every 3 months or so, I unplug it and dust all the fans and inlets / outlets.

 

 

[dlsafrica]

When my computer broke one week before the final episode of the final season of MacGyver, I didn't get another. I can do everything on my phone anyway... Except do a MacGyver episode edit music video 

[id0ntknow]

The pc is essentially unusable right now. It BSoDs near constantly (had to use a different pc for this post). I have ordered new parts for it, mainly being new mobo and cpu. The mobo came bundled with 32GB ram, so that was cool. Shouldn't be any compatibility issues there. Since I'd had the cpu led light come on 2 or 3 times on me with the old mobo, I figured it wouldn't hurt to get a new cpu just to be safe. The new mobo is an Asus RoG Strix X870E-E, and the cpu is a Ryzen 9 7900X 12-Core 4.7GHz. Gonna try to reuse the GPU and psu as well as storage drives. I should be receiving the new parts next week, so hopefully I'll be back in business with my pc soon.

[id0ntknow]

Still no luck just yet. I have received almost all of the order from Newegg, but am still missing the CPU and the ram. I am also still waiting on the liquid cooler from amazon to arrive. This is getting very annoying. I want to have a working computer, and I'm hoping I didn't have some pos at newegg steal my stuff. Too bad it's so hard to talk to an actual person at customer service anywhere nowadays.

[SparklyPrincess]

On 4/28/2024 at 3:30 AM, id0ntknow said:

My computer looks like it finally bit the dust, or is going to anyway. It looks like it's hardware failing on it. I went ahead and bit the bullet on a new computer, having Geek Squad put it together for me, since I don't have the knowledge or eyesight for doing that myself. Here are the specs on the new one.
Case: Asus Tuf Gaming GT501
Mobo: MSI B450 Gaming Plus
Ram: 64GB Crucial 3200Mhz
GPU: PNY Geforce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB GDDR6
PSU: EVGA 1000GT 
Storage: Samsung Evo 870 SSD 2TB x 2
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X 8 Core 3.8GHz
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120mm
OS: Windows 11 Home
Fans: Thermaltake Riing Trio 120mm RGB x 6

I love that this case has carry straps, and dust covers. I'm still thinking about getting 3 more fans for the top, as it doesn't have anything there at the moment. This pc is also a LOT quieter than the old one, and even a tiny bit lighter weight too.

Looks cool. I have a 12GB RTX 3060 and recently upgraded the CPU from the old 7-series 1800x to a similar Ryzen to yours, the 9-series 5900x. The difference is night and day. Good machine you got there. 

[id0ntknow]

I think I have a good update this time. I have received an email from Newegg's claims department that the replacement order is placed, and it should be shipping out by the end of 12/13/24. That is so good to hear, since I want to be able to put this thing together to find out if i am correct about the old mobo causing a lot of these issues. I have a copy of windows to reinstall with if need be, but would rather not have to do that.

Edit: I have now received an email showing that I should receive the parts on Monday. Happy dance time. Too bad I can't dance.

[DiaperboyEddie12]

@id0ntknow First I would never ever go to geek squad for anything.  I would go to a home grown local computer shop.

Second we do have a geek in here named @technomonkey who knows a lot about computers.  

I am sure there are a few other geeks that know a lot about computers and would love to give advice.

I would love to have me built a nice desktop that is better then this laptop I am typing on right now.  

And one day I shall have it.

And 6 monitors to go along with it as well.

[id0ntknow]

I have another update. I now have all the components that I ordered, and I'm looking forward to trying to put this thing together soon. I want to try to put a cheaper pc together first though, so if I make any mistakes I'm not damaging more pricey parts. My test build will reuse the cpu from my computer before, since the new build will be AM5 Socket, and won't be able to use that AM4 cpu anyway. I have borrowed a case from my dad, and I have a Gigabyte B550M K mobo, a Gigabyte Geforce GT710 gpu, a Thermaltake Toughpower GX2 600W psu, and I'll be reusing a storage drive ssd from my main build. I'm not planning to put any optical drives or anything like that in the test build, since It's main purpose is to see if I can put a pc together on my own or not, and to test the DDR4 ram I was using in my computer before. Any advice to a complete novice as far as building goes? I also found an old tube of thermal paste (like 10 plus years old), and was wondering if this should be thrown out, or could it be used? Thanks a bunch for all your help already.