Sissy Events?

[PuraVidaDip]

Are there any Sissy ABDL events anywhere? Is CapCon Sissy friendly? OK to wear GIANT pink dresses?

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

Cannot resist this: Referencing "event(s)" makes me think of the Olympics; soooo: The SissyLympics.

1. The 10k Cuck. How many times can your wife get humped by her boyfriend in front of you while driving  10 kilometers

2. The Effeminon: How quickly can your wife knock you down, strip you and have you in a Princess Diaper and a too-short pink  "Babydoll"

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

3. The 10MM SPHathon: Whoseever widdler is the closest to 10mm without exceeding it wins

[PuraVidaDip]

Seriously though are there any events I should be aware of? Anyone know of any ABDL Sissy events?

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

Maybe SissyKiss or Fetlife (which is mostly BDSM of which FemDom and its subset Sissy are a part can help

[Stroller]

On 7/27/2023 at 7:35 PM, PuraVidaDip said:

Are there any Sissy ABDL events anywhere?

Well, yes there are, but it sounds like we're a lot better off here in the UK than you are over the pond.  I went to two this weekend.  Both were events for littles and there were plenty of pink frocks around, including one Barbie.  Maybe you need to emigrate...

Good luck with your search anyway.

[BabyLouise]

On 7/31/2023 at 9:23 AM, Stroller said:

Well, yes there are, but it sounds like we're a lot better off here in the UK than you are over the pond.  I went to two this weekend.  Both were events for littles and there were plenty of pink frocks around, including one Barbie.  Maybe you need to emigrate...

Good luck with your search anyway.

Which events were they? They sound lovely

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

On 7/30/2023 at 1:41 PM, Little BabyDoll Christine said:

Maybe SissyKiss or Fetlife (which is mostly BDSM of which FemDom and its subset Sissy are a part can help

I was looking SissyKiss over a couple of weeks ago and thought I saw something about activities. There are other Sissy sites; Sissyville, Sissy School House of Sissy, Petticoated and a couple of others, links to which I put on this subforum and said that thread should be pinned but who pays attention to me

I the US the LG scene is a bit dismal. To my knowledge there is only one place holding events for LG's. Rainbow Resorts, Mount Nebo in E. Stroudsberg  (or something like that) PA. That is for the whole of the US (with some coming over from England). The US is many times the size of England with several times the population size. One would thin that MA would have something, as would CA but I have not heard anything from the LG world about any such in two dozen years. Even the main LG site, GirlTalk To is from England with nothing reaaly that good in the US

[Stroller]

23 hours ago, BabyLouise said:

Which events were they? They sound lovely

They're 'littles' events, and there are always little girls there, including sissies.  The first was in Leeds, and the second the Littles Lockin in Edinburgh.  You can find them all on Fetlife.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

6 hours ago, Stroller said:

They're 'littles' events, and there are always little girls there, 'including sissies' (emphasis addede).  The first was in Leeds, and the second the Littles Lockin in Edinburgh.  You can find them all on Fetlife.

Little Girls are NOT Sissies

https://joanne-chan1.blogspot.com/p/test.html

For my own part in this. I have had many Sissies break communication with me saying I am "too girl"

The reason that some LG's like me post here is that this was the closest to an LG forum before the Adult Kids > Little Girls' Playhouse was created

Over at GirlTalk To, theere was a bit of antipathy toward Sissy since it was appropriating some LG things to a non-LG purpose

Go to LG sites and go to Sissy sites and just look at the content and then tell me that we are anything alike in more than just the most superficial ways

So it is wrong to lump LG and Sissy togeterh.  We are as different in origin and kind as a tiaras and dildos

[Stroller]

2 hours ago, Little BabyDoll Christine said:

Little Girls are NOT Sissies

I can do without that sort of feedback.

[ValentinesStuff]

2 hours ago, Little BabyDoll Christine said:

Little Girls are NOT Sissies

So it is wrong to lump LG and Sissy togeterh.  We are as different in origin and kind as a tiaras and dildos

But LG and Sissies can attend the same events.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

25 minutes ago, ValentinesStuff said:

But LG and Sissies can attend the same events.

As unrelated particpants and if the event is very AB/Little generic. SissyKiss used to have some very generic items that some of the LG's used to use. As I said, any resemblence is superficial. LG comes from an expanded form of AB into "Little" and the original form of Transgender of 25 to 40 years ago. Sissy comes from FemDom which originates in BDSM

[TammyG]

A lot depends on the kind of event you are having which is very much dependant on the organizers.

If we are talking of a little get together either "co-ed" or LG then really there's little difference when it comes to things like playing games like pass the parcel, arts & crafts, and dolly playtime with "LG's" Sissy Gurls" like me or those who may be bigger girls who are happy doing younger things.

We may have some differing interests but a well run event will put great store on ensuring nothing is going on that would take anybody out of the little mindset and space so nothing adult kink would be happening in open view and anything that may go on in private is kept quiet and behind shut doors and curtains so no one need know (and do they need to?)

When we play we need to consider each other and perhaps having LG 's around may help in leading more "girl-like" play?

Obviously I'd never expect anyone LG to go to a more kink minded event and to be fair I'm not so sure that would by my choice either.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

On 10/16/2023 at 12:08 PM, ValentinesStuff said:

But LG and Sissies can attend the same events.

So could Little Boys, but the point would be "why?". For us, there is no gender-based humiliation in being treated as a girl or being called by a girl name, of which I see plenty in Sissies' posts, just shy of being to the point of being definitive. Also, just how would we respo9nd to SPH?. How would you cuck a 6 year old girl? "Spit or Swallow?"' for a 9 year old? You should have seen the reactins when I introduced the tiara fancy to the TGGuide and GirlTalk To

If it is a matter of liking our pink dresses, why not just come over? Just liking our clothes would be simple crossdressing

I do not have an inordinate number of pink things to wear and my panties match some part of my outfit, which are in many colors. I do use pink in decorations and accessories but that is a girl thing

[ValentinesStuff]

1 hour ago, Little BabyDoll Christine said:

So could Little Boys, but the point would be "why?". For us, there is no gender-based humiliation in being treated as a girl or being called by a girl name, of which I see plenty in Sissies' posts, just shy of being to the point of being definitive. Also, just how would we respo9nd to SPH?. How would you cuck a 6 year old girl? "Spit or Swallow?"' for a 9 year old? You should have seen the reactins when I introduced the tiara fancy to the TGGuide and GirlTalk To

If it is a matter of liking our pink dresses, why not just come over? Just liking our clothes would be simple crossdressing

I do not have an inordinate number of pink things to wear and my panties match some part of my outfit, which are in many colors. I do use pink in decorations and accessories but that is a girl thing

You have a very narrow definition of a Sissy.

 

As too why an ageplaying Sissy might want to attend an LG event? Maybe they want to do some little girl with others. Maybe they want fashion tips. I would say maybe they want to be with some people that won't judge them for wanting to be girly, but you seem to be proof that that wouldn't work.

 

 

As a crossdresser, I am not at all interested in dressing in little girl party style dresses, or anything like that. I prefer more practical girls clothes.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

5 hours ago, ValentinesStuff said:

You have a very narrow definition of a Sissy.

 

As too why an ageplaying Sissy might want to attend an LG event? Maybe they want to do some little girl with others. Maybe they want fashion tips. I would say maybe they want to be with some people that won't judge them for wanting to be girly, but you seem to be proof that that wouldn't work.

 

 

As a crossdresser, I am not at all interested in dressing in little girl party style dresses, or anything like that. I prefer more practical girls clothes.

Definitions are, by nature, unless they are defining a class or genera, narrow or they carry no information. I have seen over the past 14 years here some 4 threads by Sissies trying to define Sissy and nothing got settled. So, I just took the common ideas and used them along with  noting that Sissy fits better with FemDom as a part of BDSM. AS I have written earlier Sissy does not resove  in ABDL terms

Given the above, which I will stand on, A Sissy
1. would be out of place among LG's. While they might be going through the same motions, the meaning would be different. A defining characteristic of Sissy, based on my observation of years of their writing, is gender-age humiliation. The little girl things they would be doing would be forced on them by others. That is one of the sources of the group antipathy that exists. There is a vast difference between feminine and effeminate/emasculated
2. probably could not ageplay as a Sissy because LG is gender, but not sex driven. We do not have "Small Breast Humiliation". We do not have sexual acts anywhere in our inventory of doings. What would be a 7 year old girl's experience of cuck. That is not to say there is no humiliation in LG, but that is part o I do not enjoy what they bringf the adult-child relationship if an adult, usually Mommy or caretaker is involved to "put [the little girl] in her place"

At any rate the Sissy, trying to participate in LG events with LG's would soone feel like a fish out of water. 100% of the sissies I have had PM  contact with soon ed that contact, saying I am "too girl", if they even bother to say why they are ending communication at all, with which I am perfectly satisfied since I do not enjoy what they bring, it being very alien to me and me being very alien to them. I have been on ABDEL. TG and LG forums for over 20 years. Nor am I the only one to notice this

All of this gets back to the title of this thread. What would "Sissy events" consist of?

[ValentinesStuff]

1 hour ago, Little BabyDoll Christine said:

Definitions are, by nature, unless they are defining a class or genera, narrow or they carry no information. I have seen over the past 14 years here some 4 threads by Sissies trying to define Sissy and nothing got settled. So, I just took the common ideas and used them along with  noting that Sissy fits better with FemDom as a part of BDSM. AS I have written earlier Sissy does not resove  in ABDL terms

Given the above, which I will stand on, A Sissy
1. would be out of place among LG's. While they might be going through the same motions, the meaning would be different. A defining characteristic of Sissy, based on my observation of years of their writing, is gender-age humiliation. The little girl things they would be doing would be forced on them by others. That is one of the sources of the group antipathy that exists. There is a vast difference between feminine and effeminate/emasculated
2. probably could not ageplay as a Sissy because LG is gender, but not sex driven. We do not have "Small Breast Humiliation". We do not have sexual acts anywhere in our inventory of doings. What would be a 7 year old girl's experience of cuck. That is not to say there is no humiliation in LG, but that is part o I do not enjoy what they bringf the adult-child relationship if an adult, usually Mommy or caretaker is involved to "put [the little girl] in her place"

At any rate the Sissy, trying to participate in LG events with LG's would soone feel like a fish out of water. 100% of the sissies I have had PM  contact with soon ed that contact, saying I am "too girl", if they even bother to say why they are ending communication at all, with which I am perfectly satisfied since I do not enjoy what they bring, it being very alien to me and me being very alien to them. I have been on ABDEL. TG and LG forums for over 20 years. Nor am I the only one to notice this

All of this gets back to the title of this thread. What would "Sissy events" consist of?

I seem to have a much broader exposure to Sissydom than you do.

 

1. Most Sissies are NOT into age play. They are completely adult in nature. They wear ultra feminine adult clothes. Some want to completely emulate the female form, with breasts and hips, while others want to appear as obviously male in women's clothes. A good portion of them are horrified by age play and have all the stereotypical beliefs about it. Others age play in a wide variety of ages from infant through high school and even into elderly age play. Some are into era play, they wear clothes associated with other time periods, flapper style, southern belle, medieval, poodle skirts, whichever. It's not just "gender-age humiliation."

 

2. Not all are into SPH, or cuckolding, or other sexual humiliation. Not all are into FemDom, some are into MaleDom, some are into MDLG or DDLG. Some aren't even into any sort of domination, or humiliation except perhaps self-humiliation. 

 

You're beginning to remind me of those that claim all of ABDL is a sexual fetish, and no even if you say there isn't a sexual component for you, there really is. I was consciously an AB for 20 or so years (I was into AB stuff my whole life, but didn't recognize or really do anything until around age 12) before an AB friend explained that for many, if not most, it is a sexual thing. At the time it surprised and shocked me.

 

As for what would go on, it's going to depend upon what sissy age group the sissies are. 

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

gnrv

10 hours ago, ValentinesStuff said:

I seem to have a much broader exposure to Sissydom than you do.

 

1. Most Sissies are NOT into age play. They are completely adult in nature. They wear ultra feminine adult clothes. Some want to completely emulate the female form, with breasts and hips, while others want to appear as obviously male in women's clothes. A good portion of them are horrified by age play and have all the stereotypical beliefs about it. Others age play in a wide variety of ages from infant through high school and even into elderly age play. Some are into era play, they wear clothes associated with other time periods, flapper style, southern belle, medieval, poodle skirts, whichever. It's not just "gender-age humiliation."

 

2. Not all are into SPH, or cuckolding, or other sexual humiliation. Not all are into FemDom, some are into MaleDom, some are into MDLG or DDLG. Some aren't even into any sort of domination, or humiliation except perhaps self-humiliation. 

 

You're beginning to remind me of those that claim all of ABDL is a sexual fetish, and no even if you say there isn't a sexual component for you, there really is. I was consciously an AB for 20 or so years (I was into AB stuff my whole life, but didn't recognize or really do anything until around age 12) before an AB friend explained that for many, if not most, it is a sexual thing. At the time it surprised and shocked me.

 

As for what would go on, it's going to depend upon what sissy age group the sissies are. 

Regarding your #1 statement; re-read mey enumerated #2. This addresses the appearance of sissies in ABDL places. The "ultra=feminine" aspecit is nearly to the point of the comical, especially the over-frilliness, though I have seendresses that are labelled "AB, Sissy" that would be fine L'G dresses. As I said; Sissy does not resolve in ABDL terms. The closest category I can find is FemDom from BDSM. Since I am not in that group, I am not really adept at its usage although I have examined several sissy sites which are available from my Knowledge  Base. I have seen the MaleDom in a few cases. I would wager that any AB or LG characteristics included in Sissy are for gender/age based humiliation, mimicking what goes on in real life taunting in the 8-16 age group. This is the source of the Sissy-LG group antipathy (very seldom shared at the individual level)

I am using a definition of Sissy that is mostly about the major and maybe some minor, common characteristics from all that I havew seen, including a numver of threads by sissies that attempted self-definition and THE most common self-defining characteristic is humiliation. A definition is a list of most common characteristics, called "substantive", eliminationg the less common ones called "accidential" for the sake of clarity and wieldiness, to facilitate understanding. Add to this that sissies I have corresponded with broke contact, saying I am "too girl" and we had nothing in common. Yet, they came on as "uber fem". So, LG/ageplay is an accidental characteristic, used for other purposes. We do not mince or lisp. For LG's from an earlier time, like the '50's and specific areas and cultures, "chastity" has a different meaning, pertaining to keeping our skirts down and our panties from showing. The dress, skirt or babydoll (very different from some of what goes by that name today) are the "national garment" as they are uniquely identified as feminine by nature in 99% of the Western (and Japapnese?) world. And we are nowhere nearly as frilly as sissies: That level is just de trop

I have seen enough references to SPH to consider it significant. It is only a subset of genital humiliation which IS a major aspect of Sissy, usuall serving as the excuse for cuck. As someone familiar with at least three threads here, over 14 years here, attempting to self-define Sissy, the overwhelming majoity list humiliation of some kind as the main characteristic. For me, a definition is a statement of the main,, essential characteristics, called "substantive", deliberately omiting the non-essential ones called "accidential", for the sake of clarity and brvity (so as not to be unwieldy and klunky). So what you mean by "broader exposure" I have no idea since I have 25 years of related forum and major sissy site exposure as well as being in DPF for about 15 years, starting in '83, with a couple of years off and quitting for good only when they started printing letters from minors though I did visit the website. DPF did not even recognize Sissy

I never did, nor do I define AB as sexual. However that is how it is viewed by most persons, since it is accepted as a fetish or fetish-related, which is accepted even here. Now I might comment on LG, which is a branch of AK which was in the mid '80's considered by DPF as a subset of the AB component of ABDL. LG is gender-defined. As put by 'Taffy Cheerful" and to which I subscribe wholly, "sex is physical; gender is between the ears", meaning that gender is psycho-social; i.e. behavior in a social setting. It is associated with but not locked to, a specific sex. Once could view Sissy as sexual,. The Sissy literature I have read here is LOADED with it. However the deameaning way ist is depicted shows that it is being used to humiliate and many sisssies here claim to like that kind of sex. So who am I to argue. And many of the sissy sites that are readily available from my Knowledge Base have "teenage slut" as a major area of sissy training

Even taking into account MaleDom and DDLg occuring in Sissy, that would still fit into the BDSM paradigm, which, of necessity would include adult-adult domination-submission. The dom-sub aspecti of ABAKLG is adult-child

[TammyG]

Really, the only person who gets a say in what anyone of us sees ourselves as as the one you see in the mirror.

I have no need for any sissy to tell me if I'm sissy enough any more than one who isn't (which is fine, I'll stick up for you being you) to suggest you cannot be both Little and Sissy sat here with my dollies just playing without SPH being on my mind and with little more than the liking of a "That's not for little gurls like you" put down perhaps rather than a load of very adult humilation play. And done that for real with a bunch of LG's.

What do I like in an event?

Play - lots of it, farm yard sets, pastel colored trains, imaginary play in twos and threes with dollies making up stories

Playing tag, anything involving firing water about catching people out

A storytime session - something suitable young (not Y.A. fiction)

Nail painting

Crafts 

A Quiz

"Movie night" 

Certainly nothing "tied up".

Anyone like the idea?

 

 

 

[ValentinesStuff]

44 minutes ago, TammyG said:

Really, the only person who gets a say in what anyone of us sees ourselves as as the one you see in the mirror.

I have no need for any sissy to tell me if I'm sissy enough any more than one who isn't (which is fine, I'll stick up for you being you) to suggest you cannot be both Little and Sissy sat here with my dollies just playing without SPH being on my mind and with little more than the liking of a "That's not for little gurls like you" put down perhaps rather than a load of very adult humilation play. And done that for real with a bunch of LG's.

What do I like in an event?

Play - lots of it, farm yard sets, pastel colored trains, imaginary play in twos and threes with dollies making up stories

Playing tag, anything involving firing water about catching people out

A storytime session - something suitable young (not Y.A. fiction)

Nail painting

Crafts 

A Quiz

"Movie night" 

Certainly nothing "tied up".

Anyone like the idea?

 

 

 

How about classes/seminars? Hair care, nail painting, makeup, Sissy on a budget.

[TammyG]

1 hour ago, ValentinesStuff said:

How about classes/seminars? Hair care, nail painting, makeup, Sissy on a budget.

Nods. I have know hair styling and nail care been arranged before now with someone who is "in" with Lgs or Little sissies like me and that's great.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

If you wish to learn it so that you need not have it done by someone else. That would be one of the topics in at least one of the sissy sites

[TammyG]

I did do at a LG meet a dolly tea party and quite enjoyed it. I do have witnesses young lady.😉

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

1 hour ago, TammyG said:

I did do at a LG meet a dolly tea party and quite enjoyed it. I do have witnesses young lady.😉

That kind of shoots down ValentineStuff's claim that Sissies do not ageplay. or you are mixed LG/'sissy, though I do not know how that works. However many of the GirlTAlk To girls had separate AB lives, which I think would be cumbersome as it is, by their implicit definitions, contradictory. There is another explanation put forth by Joanne in "On LG". Many LG's, having been called sissies in their younger days simply accept the label, not realizing there is a real difference. This makes sense to me. That is why I ask a person if they are, in fact sissies, givien what the lifestyle is, as attested to by what the vast majority of sissies themselves say and reflected in the sissy sites (M place, not being one, is to observe and catalog, I give no input save as an analysit/reporter) or if they would be happier as an LG. Joanne, having been a more socially active LG has more credibi8lity than I do as she has more real-world experience and is a good analyist at it as well. My experience is mostly from  reading Sissy sites, sissy lit and sissy posts, with some contact that usually ends as I have described. A sissy, qua sissy, would not be "at home" at a dolly dea party. If you read my blog entry "The Making of a Little Girl", you would understand how come I spent much of my time among little girls my own age. So you would understand how I know that