Sissy play as you get older

[ABAlex]

I was wondering recently if it becomes more difficult to convincingly cross dress as you get older. I've been following a few people who do it, and I've noticed they all seem to be early twenties. Obviously you can dress however you want whenever you want, and honestly I'm not about to convince anyone anyone, I'm just curious if facial structure changes as you get older make it harder for guys to appear "girl."

[Rachael-Little]

I go out enfem quite a lot and I’m 60, do I pass? No never have never will.

I think I blend well as I don’t overdress I just try and look like a women my age 

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

This is not a problem with LG's since most know each other and we make allowances for this kind of thing. Also the male body type is better for LG than the female. And, as a rule, we are not trying to pass and mostly stay en petite fille, in private. Any mommies, nannies or "nursie"'s know what to expect

Besides that, the "femininity" of sissies, as I understand it, is skin deep and for the purposes of humiliation, so if it is bizarre or clownish; so much the better

[ABAlex]

8 hours ago, Little Christine said:

This is not a problem with LG's since most know each other and we make allowances for this kind of thing. Also the male body type is better for LG than the female. And, as a rule, we are not trying to pass and mostly stay en petite fille, in private. Any mommies, nannies or "nursie"'s know what to expect

Besides that, the "femininity" of sissies, as I understand it, is skin deep and for the purposes of humiliation, so if it is bizarre or clownish; so much the better

You think the male body is better for it?

BUt yes, as I said, I really don't have much chance or intention of "passing" anyway. It was more of a curiosity thing. 

[ValentinesStuff]

The male body is a bit more similar to a prepubescent body, no curvy hips, no breasts (hopefully), so a juvenile girly outfit is closer to a real little girls outfit.

 

Now if you are obese, or overly muscled that's different.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

1 hour ago, ValentinesStuff said:

The male body is a bit more similar to a prepubescent body, no curvy hips, no breasts (hopefully), so a juvenile girly outfit is closer to a real little girls outfit.

 

Now if you are obese, or overly muscled that's different.

Also, our manner of dress is, since femininie dress id defined by skirts, since they are unipqe in western culture to femalies of all ages, dominated by skirts or things with skirts. Where we might have a problem is with the legs being a bit bo...ny. I still do not have that problem yet. We also tend to wear full-circle skirts and loosely fitting  blouses or bidices and kfi still in diapers, high waisted or at least, normal waisted items. Also, our skirts cover the panties fully, which is not always the case with sissy clothes and much of sissy is about pre-teen sluttiness and if not overtly sexual then VERY risque

One of the leaders of ALG, Taffy Cheerful said "Sex is physical, gender is between the ears", to which, based on my experience and training, I subscribe fullY Sex is male/female; gender is masculine/feminine. Our clothes reflect that. Little girl outfits and some sissy outfits are designed to be cute, not pretty. Which is why I coined the term "sissydoll" for a "babydoll" that lets the panties show

Beyond that, despite the "girly" and baby aspects of sissy, I could not evaluate it in baby/babygirl terms. DPF did not recognize it and I never saw it recognized fully, though CAROLYN'S KIDS had a single page for it, until I got here in 2010. Since it did not "resolve" in strict AB terms, I figured it had to originate somwhere else. the only place that made sense was the FemDom part of BDSM. where it bled over, as far as I can tell, is in the use of "sissy" among children as in calling a little boy about 5 to 14 a "sissy" if he did not "measure up", which means that term was imported into BDSM. Although it had been been used for "gay" prior to the 1970's, even on the Johnny Carson show

[ABAlex]

3 hours ago, ValentinesStuff said:

The male body is a bit more similar to a prepubescent body, no curvy hips, no breasts (hopefully), so a juvenile girly outfit is closer to a real little girls outfit.

 

Now if you are obese, or overly muscled that's different.

Ah. Interestingly I hadn't considered it that way, I was normally picturing more curvy, appearing as an adult woman. For me its a kink.

However, I am overly muscled  

2 hours ago, Little Christine said:

Also, our manner of dress is, since femininie dress id defined by skirts, since they are unipqe in western culture to femalies of all ages, dominated by skirts or things with skirts. Where we might have a problem is with the legs being a bit bo...ny. I still do not have that problem yet. We also tend to wear full-circle skirts and loosely fitting  blouses or bidices and kfi still in diapers, high waisted or at least, normal waisted items. Also, our skirts cover the panties fully, which is not always the case with sissy clothes and much of sissy is about pre-teen sluttiness and if not overtly sexual then VERY risque

One of the leaders of ALG, Taffy Cheerful said "Sex is physical, gender is between the ears", to which, based on my experience and training, I subscribe fullY Sex is male/female; gender is masculine/feminine. Our clothes reflect that. Little girl outfits and some sissy outfits are designed to be cute, not pretty. Which is why I coined the term "sissydoll" for a "babydoll" that lets the panties show

Beyond that, despite the "girly" and baby aspects of sissy, I could not evaluate it in baby/babygirl terms. DPF did not recognize it and I never saw it recognized fully, though CAROLYN'S KIDS had a single page for it, until I got here in 2010. Since it did not "resolve" in strict AB terms, I figured it had to originate somwhere else. the only place that made sense was the FemDom part of BDSM. where it bled over, as far as I can tell, is in the use of "sissy" among children as in calling a little boy about 5 to 14 a "sissy" if he did not "measure up", which means that term was imported into BDSM. Although it had been been used for "gay" prior to the 1970's, even on the Johnny Carson show

I'll admit I'm not entirely sure what you mean in that last paragraph.

I think the word itself came from "sister", and was used to make fun of people, normally males, who liked things seen as effeminate. It began to be used by the people themselves, and is common in drag, kink, and I think in some cases as an identity. In the use shown here, it refers to people, normally cis gendered men, who use effemante things as part of a kink.  This is often as part of a submissive thing- a submissive in a kink relationship where they were "girly" clothes would be a sissy. This doesn't have to invovle a certain body type.

However, the question was referring to something a bit different. I was thinking of a wave of younger people, normally early twenties, online who are made "girlyboy" looks a trend or female cosplay. I'm wondering if it becomes harder to convincingly cross dress as you get older.

[ValentinesStuff]

3 hours ago, Little Christine said:

Also, our manner of dress is, since femininie dress id defined by skirts, since they are unipqe in western culture to femalies of all ages, dominated by skirts or things with skirts. Where we might have a problem is with the legs being a bit bo...ny. I still do not have that problem yet. We also tend to wear full-circle skirts and loosely fitting  blouses or bidices and kfi still in diapers, high waisted or at least, normal waisted items. Also, our skirts cover the panties fully, which is not always the case with sissy clothes and much of sissy is about pre-teen sluttiness and if not overtly sexual then VERY risque

One of the leaders of ALG, Taffy Cheerful said "Sex is physical, gender is between the ears", to which, based on my experience and training, I subscribe fullY Sex is male/female; gender is masculine/feminine. Our clothes reflect that. Little girl outfits and some sissy outfits are designed to be cute, not pretty. Which is why I coined the term "sissydoll" for a "babydoll" that lets the panties show

Beyond that, despite the "girly" and baby aspects of sissy, I could not evaluate it in baby/babygirl terms. DPF did not recognize it and I never saw it recognized fully, though CAROLYN'S KIDS had a single page for it, until I got here in 2010. Since it did not "resolve" in strict AB terms, I figured it had to originate somwhere else. the only place that made sense was the FemDom part of BDSM. where it bled over, as far as I can tell, is in the use of "sissy" among children as in calling a little boy about 5 to 14 a "sissy" if he did not "measure up", which means that term was imported into BDSM. Although it had been been used for "gay" prior to the 1970's, even on the Johnny Carson show

 

According to various online dictionaries, sissy originated in the mid 1800s as a form of sister or sis. Then in 1887 began to be used for effeminate man. https://www.etymonline.com/word/sissy I kind of doubt the BDSM crowd was involved.

Oddly Mary Elizabeth Spacek seemed to be a bit of a tomboy growing up, and her brothers still gave her the nickname Sissy.

Alas there are more genders than male/female, and more sexes than male/female.

 

[TammyG]

On 4/29/2021 at 3:15 PM, ValentinesStuff said:

 

According to various online dictionaries, sissy originated in the mid 1800s as a form of sister or sis. Then in 1887 began to be used for effeminate man. https://www.etymonline.com/word/sissy I kind of doubt the BDSM crowd was involved.

Oddly Mary Elizabeth Spacek seemed to be a bit of a tomboy growing up, and her brothers still gave her the nickname Sissy.

Alas there are more genders than male/female, and more sexes than male/female.

 

Indeed.

[Sissy baby Jess]

On 4/28/2021 at 3:31 AM, ABAlex said:

I was wondering recently if it becomes more difficult to convincingly cross dress as you get older. I've been following a few people who do it, and I've noticed they all seem to be early twenties. Obviously you can dress however you want whenever you want, and honestly I'm not about to convince anyone anyone, I'm just curious if facial structure changes as you get older make it harder for guys to appear "girl."

I think, as a teenager or young adult, it's pretty easy to pass or be gender ambiguous. If born male though, when you hit your 40's and onwards, it's pretty impossible to pass unless you have a naturally more feminine physique. By that stage, your body has been pumped with testosterone for decades and unfortunately that shows on in you face, hair, body shape, walking gait etc. Of course, we can try to mask all these things with wigs, make-up, clothes, posture and voice training etc and try to blend in and not draw attention to ourselves - but that still won't make us pass to the carefully observer. 

That said, 99.9% of people aren't careful observers. They 'rightly' absorbed in their own lives with family, friends and colleagues - or simply have their faces glued to a screen. And, even if they do 'clock you', they probably don't give a fuck as long as you're not being an idiot.

Love, Jess X

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

One thing I have noticed about the sissy sites I have seen is that very little, if anthing, is ABDL. Also. as the Headmistress of St. Agnes Reformatory for Sissies and Wayward Girls. Florentina Bainbridge describes the sissy outfit, especially the maid's, outfit as "a mockery of femininity"

[diaprbayb]

I dress to feel pretty 🥰

But that doesn't mean I look pretty.

[FretaBWet]

I formerly belonged to a heterosexual crossdresser's  club in the late 80's. I had only been cross dressing in my own home and had never gone outside dressed en fem. The club threw parties for special occasions and hosted dinner out at public restaurants in the area. The members represented a wide diversity of age, income and careers. I found that I was far less passable at 38 years old than most of the members in their 50's and up. When you really consider it, young people get looked at more often and more closely by young people of both genders. Boys are looking for sexual reasons, girls are looking closely to see what you're wearing, how your wearing it your hair, nails, really everything about you. Not a lot of attention is paid to old ladies, everyone with an interest is looking at younger pretty women. I'm 71 and I gave up wearing any makeup at all unless I'm going out for a special occasion and I pass okay visually. The real secret to passing at all is confidence. Without this you are going to draw so much attention that everybody will see every flaw in your presentation.

Hugs,

Freta

[Jessica Bethany]

I have been crossdressing as long as I can remember - as a kid, the lure of my mother's clothes was far too to strong to ignore. I've been through many phases, as I guess many of us have - and have been able to pass in the past (or so I've been told). I've only very recently released my "inner child" and decided that my future lies in being the 6-year old little girl that I am becoming. I know I'll never be convincing in my new role but I'm happy and excited for the future and to me, that's what matters.

[TammyG]

Just enjoy whatever "play" you love and don't worry about age - beyond the medical, it's all in the head.