Happy 4/20

[acemanner]

happy 4/20 all , light up a fatty and kick back and enjoy life

[Horndog]

I'm ready for lift off!

[DL88]

Yes, "Happy" 4/20

[Crimson_Wolf]

Hehe got to love 4/20

[Horndog]

Yes, "Happy" 4/20

Point taken, but people don't celebrate Christmas because of the underwear bomber.

[DL88]

Point taken, but people don't celebrate Christmas because of the underwear bomber.

Are you seriously comparing someone who tried to kill innocent people on Christmas Day, a holiday recognized across the world, to some made up bull excuse for a bunch of people to use illegal drugs? Last time I checked, Columbine wasn't made up by a bunch of stoners.

[babymikeblue]

pass the good stuff or billy bong thorton

[Guest]

Yes, it was a very happy 420 today

[Horndog]

Are you seriously comparing someone who tried to kill innocent people on Christmas Day, a holiday recognized across the world, to some made up bull excuse for a bunch of people to use illegal drugs? Last time I checked, Columbine wasn't made up by a bunch of stoners.

From 1920-1933, alcohol was illegal. Now it's legal. When people think of drinking alcohol on a certain holiday, they think of St. Patrick's Day. You know what other things happened on that day?

2004 – More than 22 are killed and 200 wounded in Kosovo.

2000 – More than 800 members of the Ugandan cult Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God die in what is considered to be a mass murder and suicide orchestrated by leaders of the cult.

1988 – A Colombian Boeing 727 jetliner, Avianca Flight 410, crashes into a mountainside near the Venezuelan border killing 143.

Source: Wikipedia

Yes, bad things happen on days of celebration.

Yes, St. Patrick's Day was celebrated between 1920 and 1933 when alcohol was illegal in our country.

No, you're not the judge of what people can and cannot celebrate.

[Pudding]

But it's 20/4.

Besides, do we really need to bring silly drug culture into our site? :\

[DL88]

Are you seriously comparing The Columbine Massacre to a day when millions of people across the western world get high for the sake of getting high?

Cause if you are, that is seriously fucked up.

I was not comparing anything to anyone, I was pointing out how retarded it is for people to celebrate made up drug culture bullshit on a day when we should be remembering the deaths of kids.

I wouldn't say "millions across the world" considering it is an American thing.

From 1920-1933, alcohol was illegal. Now it's legal. When people think of drinking alcohol on a certain holiday, they think of St. Patrick's Day. You know what other things happened on that day?

2004 – More than 22 are killed and 200 wounded in Kosovo.

2000 – More than 800 members of the Ugandan cult Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God die in what is considered to be a mass murder and suicide orchestrated by leaders of the cult.

1988 – A Colombian Boeing 727 jetliner, Avianca Flight 410, crashes into a mountainside near the Venezuelan border killing 143.

Source: Wikipedia

Yes, bad things happen on days of celebration.

Yes, St. Patrick's Day was celebrated between 1920 and 1933 when alcohol was illegal in our country.

No, you're not the judge of what people can and cannot celebrate.

There is a couple big of fallacies in your arguement, the main one is ALCOHOL DOESN'T MAKE YOU HALLUCINATE!

The other problem is St. Pat's day is an Irish thing and is only celebrated here because of the massive amount of Irish in the U.S.. Maybe read up on what St. Pat's day is before you compare a holiday that actually does mean a lot to millions before comparing it to that poor excuse for an attempt at a counter-culture holiday where more people can gather, break the law, and be even more useless.

St. Pat's day began as an official celebration back in 1600, Christmas has been around since for... see where I am going? The concept of 4/20 was for a bunch of kids in California to meet after school to smoke together at 4:20. They [Christmas and St. Pat's] are on a whole other tier of importance than this half-hacked excuse for doing drugs.

[sarah_ab]

actually absinthe, an alcohol legal in many countries countains the hallucinagenic wormwood... hence some alcohol DOES cause hallucinations, and i've been stoned countless times in my life and never hallucinated..

actually many prescription drugs out there cause worse hallucinations than marijuana..... but we dont say ohhh dont take that quit smoking pill..

back to topic at hand...

i went around the dorm at work last night giving all the boys in the dorm who smoke the evil eye.... warning them if i smelled smoke i was going to refuse to clean their showers for a week, lock their bathrooms down, and make them clean the toilets with their toothbrush....

i have no authority to do the latter but funny enough the believe me....

it was a nice peaceful 4/20 at work....

[timmyc]

I don't smoke but I don't think it should be a crime either. DD is made up of many people from various backgrounds and nothing wrong with 420ers observing a day on a calender. This is the supposed uncensored area of the board.

[DL88]

actually absinthe, an alcohol legal in many countries countains the hallucinagenic wormwood... hence some alcohol DOES cause hallucinations, and i've been stoned countless times in my life and never hallucinated..

First: Absinthe is a spirit.

Second: No

http://www.substanceabusepolicy.com/content/1/1/14

actually many prescription drugs out there cause worse hallucinations than marijuana..... but we dont say ohhh dont take that quit smoking pill..

Keyword: prescription

-Regulated by the USFDA

-Black Box Warning

Definition:

A prescription drug is a licensed medicine that is regulated by legislation to require a prescription before it can be obtained. The term is used to distinguish it from over-the-counter drugs which can be obtained without a prescription.

Medical Dictionary

prescription drug definition

Function: n

: a drug that can be obtained only by means of a physician's prescription

I don't smoke but I don't think it should be a crime either. DD is made up of many people from various backgrounds and nothing wrong with 420ers observing a day on a calender. This is the supposed uncensored area of the board.

http://www.justice.gov/dea/concern/marijuana.html

I think DD takes a stance against criminal activity, or maybe that's just me.

[Horndog]

There is a couple big of fallacies in your arguement, the main one is ALCOHOL DOESN'T MAKE YOU HALLUCINATE!

Neither does marijuana.

Maybe read up on what St. Pat's day is before you compare a holiday that actually does mean a lot to millions before comparing it to that poor excuse for an attempt at a counter-culture holiday where more people can gather, break the law, and be even more useless.

A celebration is a celebration whether or not you find it to be a "poor excuse for an attempt at a counter-culture holiday where [...] people break the law and be even more useless." That's your opinion.

St. Pat's day began as an official celebration back in 1600, Christmas has been around since for... see where I am going? The concept of 4/20 was for a bunch of kids in California to meet after school to smoke together at 4:20. They [Christmas and St. Pat's] are on a whole other tier of importance than this half-hacked excuse for doing drugs.

I know about St. Pat's day. Thanks for telling me something I already know.

You do realize people use marijuana legally for medicinal purposes, right? Having said that, not everyone who smokes is "useless" and "breaking the law."

Also, I found something interesting. I just checked out your signature.

By having that signature included in every post you make, you're celebrating the fact that you're a "Grammar Nazi" and you have this nicely modified swastika to show your pride.

You know, Nazis were responsible for the genocide of about six million European Jews during World War II and they also put about ten million more in forced labor. Surely you're not advocating the "Final Solution" for Jews and other religious/ethnic groups, right? Oh, I get it! You're just telling people that you hate bad grammar and you will act like a "Nazi" in order to correct it. That's really tasteful, right?

Listen kid, you should let those "stoner kids" enjoy their 4/20 because complaining about it only makes you look extremely hypocritical.

[DL88]

Neither does marijuana.

http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm

(That's the American Council for Drug Education)

Next time make a better reference than:

[url="http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_marijuana_cause_hallucinations"]Neither does marijuana.[/url

Too easy.

A celebration is a celebration whether or not you find it to be a "poor excuse for an attempt at a counter-culture holiday where [...] people break the law and be even more useless." That's your opinion.

You're right on one thing, that IS my opinion; however, it does not change the fact that it is not an internationally recognized holiday celebrated by "millions."

*Golf clap for recognizing opinion*

I know about St. Pat's day. Thanks for telling me something I already know.

Really? Then next time don't make the comparison. Again, too easy.

By having that signature included in every post you make, you're celebrating the fact that you're a "Grammar Nazi" and you have this nicely modified swastika to show your pride.

You know, Nazis were responsible for the genocide of about six million European Jews during World War II and they also put about ten million more in forced labor. Surely you're not advocating the "Final Solution" for Jews and other religious/ethnic groups, right? Oh, I get it! You're just telling people that you hate bad grammar and you will act like a "Nazi" in order to correct it. That's really tasteful, right?

What was the point of this? This has been around on the internet for a LONG time. This was a completely pathetic last ditch attempt to quell my next set of arguements. It is a joke; something created on the internet to represent people who, upon confronting terrible lingo, cringe at the very fact that there is an obvious and appearent degradation of the English language.

Pathetic.

Listen kid, you should let those "stoner kids" enjoy their 4/20 because complaining about it only makes you look extremely hypocritical.

Kid? Get over yourself.

hyp·o·crite 

noun

1.a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

2.a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

So if by not using illegal substances, having a very moral code to the point where they have been congratulated by Senators and Governors for their personal achievements and non-profit volunteer work, and is constantly making statements about and living by their personal beliefs is a hypocrite, then yes, I am the most massive hypocrite on DD.

Again Rocker, pathetic.

[Horndog]

Oh snap! You brought up a source from the American Council for Drug Education! It must be a really good source because it has the word "America" in it. I was totally schooled there.

No sources are mentioned. Maybe I should start an organization like the American Association Against Smartasses and describe in great detail on how pompous you're sounding -- and hope that people believe me -- but then I'd look foolish for not backing any of it up. If we were having this discussion in the late 1990s, I could have set up a cheesy-looking web page on AOL with anti-drug rhetoric that sounds scientific, but that doesn't mean a damn thing unless I cite my sources or provide footnotes. If you want a debate, cite actual studies and data that correlates with your point of view and maybe I won't give you that half-baked WikiAnswers link that I thought you deserved.

Also, I brought up St. Patrick's Day simply because people celebrate that day just like people celebrate 4/20. Very simple criteria for comparison. People associate St. Patrick's Day with drinking, hence the seemingly endless beer commercials that run on TV before and during the holiday. Alcohol was once considered illegal and illicit in our society at one point and you know what? Now, it's illegal to drink it until you turn 21 in the United States, but don't tell me you haven't had a drink of alcohol until you turned 21, Mr. Morality. Many kids like you have had alcohol before turning 21, but I haven't seen you wag your finger at them.

And... I thought your signature was very telling. While "stoner kids" celebrate 4/20 -- which, coincidentally, falls on the same day as Adolf Hitler's birthday -- you celebrate this idea that you're a "Grammar Nazi" and I couldn't care less if it's an Internet meme or not. If you're going to refer to yourself as any kind of "nazi," be prepared to take some shots. I'm sure you don't believe in the mass eradication of the Jewish people. You don't strike me as the kind of person that would, but even associating yourself with the word "nazi" is questionable. You don't see any stoners going around and saying, "Go Columbine!" and taking a bong hit as a nod to Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold (which you appear to imply, not sure), but on the day that you're criticizing people for celebrating something that's illegal and "illicit" (in your opinion), you have a signature that says you're a proud "Grammar Nazi" on the very same day that birthed a man, the leader of the Nazi party, who committed unspeakable, catastrophic atrocities that actually happened and they're not subject to opinion on whether they were "illegal and illicit" or not.

Even though I have a Jewish heritage, I've taken a look at your sig and thought, "Whatever. A lot of people refer to themselves as grammar nazis," but at the same time, you ought to know the context so that someone like me doesn't have to spell it out for you like a Jewish psychologist trying to talk sense to Mel Gibson.

On a personal note, I find your bragging of being recognized by senators and governors for personal achievements and non-profit volunteer work on a site about adult babies and diaper lovers to be outrageously funny and sad. If you've really accomplished all of that, you would not use that as a tool to anonymously elevate your self-importance. That's just wrong... like Shamwow and Teletubbies.

Happy 4/20 to you too. Peace.

[DL88]

Oh snap! You brought up a source from the American Council for Drug Education! It must be a really good source because it has the word "America" in it. I was totally schooled there.

No sources are mentioned. Maybe I should start an organization like the American Association Against Smartasses and describe in great detail on how pompous you're sounding -- and hope that people believe me -- but then I'd look foolish for not backing any of it up. If we were having this discussion in the late 1990s, I could have set up a cheesy-looking web page on AOL with anti-drug rhetoric that sounds scientific, but that doesn't mean a damn thing unless I cite my sources or provide footnotes. If you want a debate, cite actual studies and data that correlates with your point of view and maybe I won't give you that half-baked WikiAnswers link that I thought you deserved.

Also, I brought up St. Patrick's Day simply because people celebrate that day just like people celebrate 4/20. Very simple criteria for comparison. People associate St. Patrick's Day with drinking, hence the seemingly endless beer commercials that run on TV before and during the holiday. Alcohol was once considered illegal and illicit in our society at one point and you know what? Now, it's illegal to drink it until you turn 21 in the United States, but don't tell me you haven't had a drink of alcohol until you turned 21, Mr. Morality. Many kids like you have had alcohol before turning 21, but I haven't seen you wag your finger at them.

And... I thought your signature was very telling. While "stoner kids" celebrate 4/20 -- which, coincidentally, falls on the same day as Adolf Hitler's birthday -- you celebrate this idea that you're a "Grammar Nazi" and I couldn't care less if it's an Internet meme or not. If you're going to refer to yourself as any kind of "nazi," be prepared to take some shots. I'm sure you don't believe in the mass eradication of the Jewish people. You don't strike me as the kind of person that would, but even associating yourself with the word "nazi" is questionable. You don't see any stoners going around and saying, "Go Columbine!" and taking a bong hit as a nod to Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold (which you appear to imply, not sure), but on the day that you're criticizing people for celebrating something that's illegal and "illicit" (in your opinion), you have a signature that says you're a proud "Grammar Nazi" on the very same day that birthed a man, the leader of the Nazi party, who committed unspeakable, catastrophic atrocities that actually happened and they're not subject to opinion on whether they were "illegal and illicit" or not.

Even though I have a Jewish heritage, I've taken a look at your sig and thought, "Whatever. A lot of people refer to themselves as grammar nazis," but at the same time, you ought to know the context so that someone like me doesn't have to spell it out for you like a Jewish psychologist trying to talk sense to Mel Gibson.

On a personal note, I find your bragging of being recognized by senators and governors for personal achievements and non-profit volunteer work on a site about adult babies and diaper lovers to be outrageously funny and sad. If you've really accomplished all of that, you would not use that as a tool to anonymously elevate your self-importance. That's just wrong... like Shamwow and Teletubbies.

Happy 4/20 to you too. Peace.

I can only assume that, because of the quickly and gradually growing number of personal insults in your replies, I am getting under your skin, it's just too bad that what I am posting, besides the opinion stuff, is fact.

Oh snap! You brought up a source from the American Council for Drug Education! It must be a really good source because it has the word "America" in it. I was totally schooled there.

Sigh, I guess I can't expect anything better from someone who thinks a decent source is an "ask wiki" page.

No sources are mentioned. I cite my sources or provide footnotes.

This is all I am addressing from that paragraph because frankly, the rest of it was a poor attempt at an insult and isn't deserving of being responded to, I'll simply rise above it. Ok you'd like more?

http://www.drugabuse.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html

That is from the National Institutes of Health which, in the words of Eazy-E, is straight out of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. (You like what I did there with the Eazy-E reference from the Straight Outta Compton Album but it was for the U.S. Agency? )

http://www.ukcia.org/research/EffectsOfMarijuanaOnLungAndImmuneDefenses.php

Now that is actually on a site that is pro-legalization in the U.K.. You see I couldn't find any other listing of this because both the Harvard and University of Indiana removed it from their online reading material.

That should be sufficient enough for you Rocker.

Also, I brought up St. Patrick's Day simply because people celebrate that day just like people celebrate 4/20. Very simple criteria for comparison. People associate St. Patrick's Day with drinking, hence the seemingly endless beer commercials that run on TV before and during the holiday. Alcohol was once considered illegal and illicit in our society at one point and you know what? Now, it's illegal to drink it until you turn 21 in the United States, but don't tell me you haven't had a drink of alcohol until you turned 21, Mr. Morality. Many kids like you have had alcohol before turning 21, but I haven't seen you wag your finger at them.

Actually when my family and I celebrate St. Pat's day we think of the true meaning. You know that story about how he drove all of the snakes from Ireland? You see that is actually using personification to represent the conversion of the people from the prior belief of Celtic polytheism, to Roman Catholicism. Believe it or not, most true Irish actually celebrate the holiday because of that reason, the whole drinking culture that surrounds stems from non-Irish protestants participating in the celebration which came after a very long time of an anti-Irish culture in the U.S.. In case you are interested, no, I never had a drink before I turned 21; however, last St. Pat's Day, I was completely smashed .

Many kids do drink underage, however, I more blame both the parents and/or the person(s) who either gave it or bought it for the underage kids. I also believe they need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law even if it is a parent.

And... I thought your signature was very telling. While "stoner kids" celebrate 4/20 -- which, coincidentally

Blah, blah, blah, again, more frivolous banter that, however, must be addressed. At NO point did I "celebrate" anything the Nazi's did nor do I care that you are of "Jewish Hertiage." Honestly, I could not care any less that you are of Jewish Decent. The fact that you are specifically making a pathetic attempt to belittle me because of a signature, is for lack of a better term, pathetic. Your logic is about as sound as, "oh noes he has rocker in his and and dirty so he must run around in mud and then play a guitar!" Yet I would look like a complete fool and an idiot if I went around making a statement any where close to that wouldn't I? If you've actually read any of my posts I have said I do not even consider myself a "Grammar Nazi" or even part of the "Grammar Police," I consider myself more of the "Grammar Citizen Patrol." Guess what the 88 in my name stands for, my birth year, go read into that why don't you, seriously go for it, you might get just as far as this argument and I'm sure it'll be just as mediocre as this one, at best.

The rest of everything you've written is just as pointless and pathetic as your entire post. The reason I stated those about myself was due to the fact that you are calling into question my morality. You see, those are recognitions by others in the community of me exercising my morals; therefore, they were certainly appropriate. The only other conclusion is maybe you are speaking negativly about the entire AB/DL community proclaiming this community is a complete moral vacuum? Just stop, to continue is a waste of time on your part.

I leave you with a few tactics you have shown on here straight from Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.

Section 7: Tactics

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and 'frozen.' "...any target can always say, 'Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?' When your 'freeze the target,' you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments.... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the 'others' come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target...'

As us terrible horrible Catholics say:

Peace be with you my friend

[Guest]

How bout we all just shut the fuck up and enjoy 4/20 for what it is. All this arguing is wrecking all the good, groovy vibrations! STFU!

No matter what or who is right and wrong, you can't go putting down something when you have not tried it yourself and have no actual experience with it. (which would be me too)

I've never tried weed, so I will not put it down, say it should be illegal, and say it's some sort of stupid sin against whatever religion decides to stick it's big fucking nose in everyone's business where it doesn't belong in the first place. Just cause you go to church and live your life by a code doesn't mean anybody else who doesn't wants you to be on their goddamned doorstep at 8:00am in the morning on Sunday preaching about how religion has changed your life for the better and you found Jesus, yatta yatta yatta...

Besides, with all of the advances in technology with vaporization and such, the inevitable is going to happen sooner than some people want...

Lets all enjoy it and find positive in things rather than negative all of the fucking time.

[Horndog]

I can only assume that, because of the quickly and gradually growing number of personal insults in your replies, I am getting under your skin, it's just too bad that what I am posting, besides the opinion stuff, is fact.

Wow, facts! This is turning into a scavenger hunt now. How exciting.

Let's take a look.

"Not surprisingly, marijuana intoxication can cause distorted perceptions, impaired coordination, difficulty in thinking and problem solving, and problems with learning and memory."

Source: http://www.drugabuse.../marijuana.html

Marijuana can cause those symptoms but it doesn't mean that everyone who smokes it exhibits all of the symptoms. Okay, point taken, but nowhere does it state that it makes you hallucinate, which is what you claimed earlier. Actually, what marijuana does is that it retards perception, not stimulate it to the point that it would cause your sensory perception to see something that does not exist. When it comes to medical usage of marijuana, THC actually retards the nociceptors in the peripheral nervous system. In order words, marijuana has the ability to reduce pain by relaxing the natural stimulants in your body that evoke pain.

As far as the other link you provided, I think that it's important to note that any substance that is used in excess can be harmful to your health. Not only marijuana can incur major pulmonary consequences and significant damage to your lung tissue, but so does tobacco and alcohol; both are legal. The study you provided never mentioned once of the hallucinogenic properties of marijuana. If you look at the data closely, subjects of the studies smoked marijuana regularly and often heavily, which could lead to health problems. However, according to the source, the results of these studies are preliminary and require long-term study in order to provide more conclusive data. My thoughts? Nice report. Needs more conclusive evidence.

Actually when my family and I celebrate St. Pat's day we think of the true meaning. You know that story about how he drove all of the snakes from Ireland? You see that is actually using personification to represent the conversion of the people from the prior belief of Celtic polytheism, to Roman Catholicism. Believe it or not, most true Irish actually celebrate the holiday because of that reason, the whole drinking culture that surrounds stems from non-Irish protestants participating in the celebration which came after a very long time of an anti-Irish culture in the U.S.. In case you are interested, no, I never had a drink before I turned 21; however, last St. Pat's Day, I was completely smashed.

Oh so very, very lame. But in all seriousness, despite what the true meaning of the holiday is, St. Pat's Day involves drinking. Lots of drinking. Lots of drinking can make you intoxication. Intoxication can impair your sensory and cognitive abilities. You get in your Chevy Tahoe after a few drinks and you become a safety hazard on the road. That's the best case scenario. In 2008, around 11,773 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes. Drunk driving fatalities accounted for 32% of all traffic deaths that year. On average, someone is killed in an alcohol-impaired driving crash every 45 minutes in the United States (Source: NHTSA/FARS, 2009). Where does marijuana play in this equation? It doesn't. When a stoner is driving, snails on the road complain that the stoners are driving too slowly.

Many kids do drink underage, however, I more blame both the parents and/or the person(s) who either gave it or bought it for the underage kids. I also believe they need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law even if it is a parent.

Good for you.

Blah, blah, blah...

I'm glad your reading comprehension is at 1st grade level.

The rest of everything you've written is just as pointless and pathetic as your entire post. The reason I stated those about myself was due to the fact that you are calling into question my morality. You see, those are recognitions by others in the community of me exercising my morals; therefore, they were certainly appropriate. The only other conclusion is maybe you are speaking negativly about the entire AB/DL community proclaiming this community is a complete moral vacuum? Just stop, to continue is a waste of time on your part.

I never said the AB/DL was a complete moral vacuum. I'm just saying that it's odd you would bring up that sort of stuff here. I don't believe you've garnered all that support. Those who do have humility and they don't boast about it on message boards. "Hey, I just won the Nobel Peace Prize. Now can you change my diaper?"

Finally, I'm a little disturbed -- just a little -- about you comparing a day when people celebrate 4/20 to what happened at Columbine. That's the reason why I took exception to your comments and quite frankly, a lot of people took exception to your comments. I've received a few e-mails from people who weren't too thrilled with the comparison. There was no reason to really do that other to say, "Oh, look at that! A coincidence!" but that was a bit of a dick move.

Oh, and one more thing.

Go [bleep] yourself.

[square_duck]

It's not 4/20 anymore....

[Guest KuroiYukiKit]

So much hate! Over an Herb!

Look 4/20 is just a day when people are gonna smoke. And I know to me at least its not even about the smoking itself, Its a day in the year where me and all the other folks that have smoking in common just kind decide its going to be an awesome day. Its not about the specific day of the year, it could be any day and any number that has had horrible things occur on it. Its the spirit that we are gonna have a good time, and we always do. We chill, smoke, play, eat and just have a good time and all cause thats we all just wake up and MAKE it a day to celebrate.

People are always going to hold their own thoughts on smoking, and many are going to pull and bite out their eyes that we do but all I do is remind myself that most are the same that will get pissy drunk and pass out on the street the night after arguing, or they simply will have to learn the hard way nothing good comes from the arrogance of being "better" than someone who works and smokes a bowl rather than sipping a drink. Pot, diapers, money its all the same and can be just as badly used. An employer will treat the person who was off somewhere spending money, came to work drunk, came in diapered and was inappropriate about it, or missed work from smoking with the same end, a loss of your job for your effort. Just do your own thing, realize people have their own things and just respect and let them do what they do and be happy for their own occasions.

TL;DR = Haters gonna hate, but I'ma smoke my bowl and enjoy my holiday whether or not they "approve"

[DL88]

Go [bleep] yourself.

This is why it isn't even worth the time on my part to bother with this banter anymore. Thanks for validity my argument.

Kuroi, your post reminded me of this, see if you can guess the band with out google :

Fuckin and fighting it's all the same

Livin' with Louie dog's the only way to stay sane

[Guest KuroiYukiKit]

Sublime ish good stuff~

All I'm sayin' is pick your battles. Its enough fighting the ones that are necessary. Honestly 88 what was the point of taking a few people talking about having a good time and associating it with columbine if not to stir trouble? >>

[DL88]

All I'm sayin' is pick your battles. Its enough fighting the ones that are necessary. Honestly 88 what was the point of taking a few people talking about having a good time and associating it with columbine if not to stir trouble? >>

Honestly my first post was more of a pointing out that it happened on the same day just so people wouldn't forget that either, nothing more nothing less. Many times my posts start with simply pointing something out and it just seems to escalate. While yes, I am not a fan of drugs because I have had to family members ruin their lives because of them, one is still in jail but that is neither here nor there; I'm really more of a live and let live type of person.

While some of my inital language (starting with the 2nd post) was inflammatory, it takes "2 to tango." I used to live in CO. for a short time and the event really shook me to the core. When it seems like someone is trying to marginalize an event that had a massive effect across the country, it just doesn't sit right because of the fact that innocent kids lost their lives one day in school. You can sit around trying to rationalize who was at fault for the whole thing, the parents, the educators, the two themselves, but at the end of the day, we need to remember what happened so we can prevent it from happening again.

The point of everything is this: Do what you want on 4/20, even though I strongly disagree with it, just remember what else happened on 4/20