Chemicals In Baby Products

[restlessfox]

i stumbled across this when i was logging into my email, it's worth checking out chemicals in baby products

it says that some baby products could be causing reproduction problems, which could possibly be causing some of the erectile dysfunction mentioned on this board, there's no real research to back it up and therefore no proof but it's something to keep in mind.

[thekid1]

its funny how these big companies say there's only a little bit of toxic chemicals in these products and it wont hurt any one. that little bit that you get exposed to every time ads up they don't seam to care as long as there making money.

[Pipsqueak]

The reproductive problems they're talking about in that article appear to be problems with reproductive development in young children, ie. problems with the physical development of their genitals or early breast development in girls. There isn't any mention that I saw of problems in later life, such as erectile dysfunction.

So many different things from psychological problems to certain medications and diseases such as diabetes, prostate problems, etc. can contribute to erectile dysfunction.

[ridiaperboy]

Baby lotions and powders are hardly a cause of erectile dysfunction for me...they are actually products that have a definite and pronounced effect in stimulating my sexual desires. Geez, simply inhaling the wonderful aromas of Baby Magic Original Baby Lotion or Johnson's Baby Powder is enough to sexually excite me.

But to get to the contention that perhaps chemicals contained within certain baby products could potentially be a cause of ED, (as suggested in a post above), I have to refute that. I've been happily and voluntarily "addicted" to baby products for nearly all of my adult life, I use them on a daily basis, and at this point in my life, I've never had to resort to Viagra or Cialis in order to foment sexual arousal. I've used enough baby products in my life (and had them used on me in great quantities as an infant, during my sexual development stages) that I see no evidence that it could have been/could still be a possible cause of ED. In fact, I'll state that baby products have actually prolonged and enhanced my sexual desires throughout every stage of my adult life. Their use on me as an infant has had no effect on my sexual desires as an adult.

[jacob]

its funny how these big companies say there's only a little bit of toxic chemicals in these products and it wont hurt any one. that little bit that you get exposed to every time ads up they don't seam to care as long as there making money.

Why would a company not care if its product was hazardous? If it was established that the product was hazardous the "big companies" would be exposed to massive lawsuits and damage to their brand reputations, resulting in reduced sales and consequently reduced profits. Hardly compatible with the concept of making money.

[tris]

I happen to have a Strategic Management textbook in front of me, and the chapter I'm in has the J&J mission statement, as they're using them as a profile.

"All our management is geared to profit on a day-to-day basis. That's part of the business of being in business. But too often, in this and other businesses, people are inclined to think, "We'd better do this because if we don't, it's going to show up on the figures over the short term." [Our mission] allows them to say, "Wait a minute. I don't have to do that. " The management has told me that they're . . . interested in me operating under this set of principals. " --Former Johnson & Johnson CEO Jim Burke, Barney/Hesterly 2006.

While J&J is a corporation that exists to make a profit, their upper echelons encourage the ranks to make smart, long-term choices.

If some baby care products are considered dangerous, I doubt any, if at all, bear the J&J Brand.

[Floaty_Boy]

i stumbled across this when i was logging into my email, it's worth checking out chemicals in baby products

it says that some baby products could be causing reproduction problems, which could possibly be causing some of the erectile dysfunction mentioned on this board, there's no real research to back it up and therefore no proof but it's something to keep in mind.

WARNING: SCIENCE CONTENT and sarcastic comments about using fear to sway public and political opinion. You have been warned...

Ah yes, the old phthalate bogey-man again. This has actually been fear-monger bait for quite a while now. The story is nothing new. The point to pay special attention to in the article is this paragraph:

"Phthalates (pronounced thowl-ates) are under attack by some environmental advocacy groups, but experts are uncertain what dangers, if any, they might pose."

Why, you need to ask, are ENVIRONMENTAL advocacy groups freaking out about the effects phthalates are having on children instead of, oh, I don't know, PARENTAL or CHILD SAFETY advocacy groups, maybe? Or maybe even PEDIATRICIANS? One reason: the ancient enemy of the environmentalist -- Plastics!!!

PVC (vinyl) is a hard substance, like what's used in making PVC pipes for plumbing. Softeners are needed to make it flexible for use in things like plastic pants and, yes, inflatable toys. These softeners contain phthalates, which, the environmentalists contend, can leach into a child's (or animal's or adult's) bloodstream where it binds to the subject's estrogen receptors -- thereby imitating the effects of estrogen in the subject. I.E., de-masculinization or effeminization of males (Erectile Dysfunction, low sperm count/motility, estrogen-induced build-up of fatty tissues) or hyper-feminization in females (early breast development, early estrus).

As is typical with such things, the field is rife with dubious research, hyperbolic claims and rampant fear-mongering in yet another attempt to get the world to shun the use of the environmentally-destructive plastic demon.

And, of course, the BIG problem with using the reprehensible battle-cry of "think of the children" to try to scare people into your way of thinking is that it ends up crossing over into other things you never intended, as in this case. When the phthalate scare first reared its ugly head, PVC was the only culprit. Plastic diapers, plastic pants, plastic toys -- they would all turn your sons into effeminate whiners with little dicks they couldn't get up and your girls into pre-pubescent sluts with breasts and periods at age seven. But pthalates (as well as many other phyto- and pseudo- estrogens) occur both in nature and in other products than plastics.

Please note that I am NOT anti-environment, here. But I AM anti-scare-tactics and I absolutely HATE it when ANYBODY on ANY side of an argument plays the "think of the children!!" card just to win sympathy for their point of view.

--Floaty

[tris]

Pthalates are also in CDs -- why haven't we stopped producing and buying those? As a matter of fact, they're probably MORE harmful, considering they're made of pthalacyanine, which would be a pthalate that is mixed somewhere along the way with a form of cyanide.