Enthusi

I found good luck with private hypnotists. It’s a different feel than the recorded generic stuff online.

I get that’s what you want today. But what about tomorrow? Next week? Next year? Don’t take this the wrong way, but but on your recent discussion posts, you’re all over the place. I am genuinely concerned that you haven’t really thought this through, and yet you’re taking drastic steps that have potentially serious, long term consequences.

So literally the other day you posted this forum topic where you said you were unsure if you want to become incontinent. I think you ought to pause and figure out what you really want. Best of luck.

Hard to say what the point of no return is for you or anyone else. That’s assuming there is a point of no return. There probably is some threshold where a person becomes permanently “locked into diapers” but it’s related to a number of variables, including pre-existing bladder control, desire to retrain, how long you have been wearing diapers for, and your ability to do things like physical therapy, biofeedback, and medications to retrain your bladder. Personally speaking, I am near completely urinary incontinent after 5+ years of 24/7 and untraining. Like you, my bladder muscles have defaulted back to relaxed. I also dribble and wet small amounts frequently through the day. Most of the time my bladder is on auto pilot and I don’t even realize I had to pee until after I am peeing. If I pay close attention to my body, I can clench the muscles and consciously hold pee for 20-30 seconds tops before my muscles give out. Usually I get distracted or stop trying after 5-10 seconds because it gets too uncomfortable for me. Though I’m not concerned. Not in the slightest. I plan to be “stuck” in diapers for the rest of my life, and am pleased as punch about it I’d say if you’re legit worried about not being able to retain, then you ought to get in that sooner than later.

Hi all, I've been meaning to post this for a while. I recently started a new subReddit /r/diaperedlifestyle. My goal is to create a home on Reddit for others who, like me, wear diapers more than casually. The general /r/ABDL SubReddit is an amazing place for support and acceptance, and you can find the latest on news, product updates, sales, etc, but it tends to be more geared towards casual wearers. I want to stress that Reddit and Daily Diapers offer very different social media experiences and they should complement, not compete with each other. I created the subreddit as another resource for others like me. This is in no way meant to drive traffic away from Daily Diapers. Quite the opposite! I encourage links to DailyDiapers and crossposting from this forum and others on /r/DiaperedLifestyle. Here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/DiaperedLifestyle/ Cheers! Enthusi

@mewtwo I ought to clarify. Yes when it comes to getting insurance to pay for diapers for urinary incontinence, it government insurance is more likely to approve them than commercial insurance. So yes, it is *possible* to have diapers covered by your insurance. But it relies on your doctor going to bat for you, making sure the prescription and diagnosis code are done properly, appealing to get high quality diapers, which will almost surely entail some sort of letter of medically necessity. And that’s assuming your doctor agrees they are medically necessary for you. Personally speaking, my doctor knows I’m incontinent and okay managing with diapers (though not the untraining or abdl stuff). I was going back and forth in my head if it’s ethical to ask my doctor for a prescription for diapers as they are medically necessary for me. Finally I did. My doctor wrote a prescription, but it was promptly rejected by my commercial insurance, at which point he referred me to urology. Now I’m going for all sorts of testing to get a more accurate diagnosis, which is fine because I am vaguely concerned about my long term risk urinary retention. But it all started when I asked my doc for a prescription. Ironically, I’m not even interested in having my diapers covered by insurance any more.

I would beg to differ. It’s not easy but it is possible. It took me five years and I spent thousands on private hypnosis, and it’s been an uphill battle. Bladder control is a highly involved process, with layers upon layers of redundancy. But it IS possible. That said, @mewtwo it’s a long shot for you to get diapers covered. Usually it’s a struggle just to get cheapo hospital grade pull-ups covered. Not only do you need to prove you need to wear diapers, but you also have to show why pull-ups are not sufficient, in favor of tape diapers. And even then, you’re not done. Even if insurance covers tape diapers the chances are slim to none that they will only cover generic low quality tape diapers with poor odor protection and no leak guards. So you not only have to make the case that you need tape diapers, you also need to make the case you need high quality tape diapers. As with everything it’s not impossible, but expect it to not be easy.

Some people love being caged because it makes them feel like they have a useless incontinent nub for a pee pee. Or so I hear. 😇. While erections still happen; they are not comfortable. Also the cage keeps boy parts pointed the right direction, which is icing on the cake. Or so I hear…

I’m curious how often, if at all you’ve noticed you are wet, but don’t remember peeing. If so what was the context? Were you distracted? Intoxicated? Dribbles? How did/do you feel about it? Have you ever peed or started to pee without realizing it when you’re not diapered, such as between changes or getting ready in the morning? Other thoughts on the topic?

Entrepreneur all the way! The best and worst part of being your own boss is that you make up your own rules along the way. If you want there to be a rule that there’s 20 minute breaks for diaper changes every few hours, then it’s a rule! Depending on the nature of your business, you can work from home. If you need an actual office space, find one that is well ventilated with private bathrooms and access to a dumpster. And if your business takes off and you’re making bank and have happy employees and customers, then people will be more willing to look past the whole incontinence thing.

Um yes? 😂😇

Like many others here, I came out of the factory wanting to wear diapers. I don’t think there was a single time in my life that I didn’t want to wear diapers. I was in my early teens when I discovered ABDL, thanks to the Internet. While I don’t recall having any overt fantasies about incontinence prior to discovering that I wasn’t alone, I do recall being tantalized shortly thereafter. I scoured the internet for stories and accounts of people who needed to wear diapers for one reason or another. I remember being a teenager and being mesmerized by a book about incontinence at our local library, though I was too scared check it out, so I read the whole thing at the library. I didn’t start unpotty training until decades later, but the seeds were there at a young age I always assumed this is how it is for all ABDLs. Though given that the vast majority of us have no desire to be diaper dependent, I am starting to doubt that. This goes with my theory that those of us who desire incontinence are a distinct subgroup with a similar, but different profile than the larger ABDL community. So, I am curious about others, when did you first fantasize about incontinence?

Okay-ish? I don’t have a desire to be bowel incontinent and yet I’m doing nothing to prevent it either. Actually, for the last few weeks, I’ve been full 24/7, as in no toilet at all, even for BMs. This is a new development and I’m not sure where I’m going with it. I’m going to ride it out and see how long I can keep the toilet free streak going. At this point I’d say my bowel control is “good enough”. Over the past few years I will occasionally experience what I call “gray accidents.” That is to say, I planned to use the big boy potty for a BM, but it got tiring trying to hold it, so I said screw it and used my diaper instead. I probably could’ve made it, but I gave up because it was just easier that way. Once or twice a year I will have an honest to God accident where I just couldn’t hold it anymore. It’s a mind screw when this happens. On one hand, I’m no stranger to messy diapers, so it’s not a big deal. That’s why I wear diapers! On the other hand, it’s mildly disturbing how casual I am about accidentally pooping myself. Like I said, it’s okay-ish. Why do you ask? @spark

Can I quote you in my untraining guide? @FreeFlowin The whole premise of my approach is to understand how continence is maintained, and to use that info to develop and deploy a barrage of targeted psychological techniques and behavior modification to undo continence. It turns out that for much of continence is psychological. You are absolutely correct. If you’re at all afraid you’re going to have an embarrassing accident, or that you have to make your diaper last so long due to supply anxiety or whatever, you’re reinforcing the psychological barriers between you and incontinence. Obviously it’s more expensive to build a large cache of diapers, not to mention the space required. But it you can swing it, it’s money well spent. Also if anyone’s curious, my untraining guide, called “Targeted Untraining” is coming along, though I’ve moving at a snails pace because other things that are higher priority keep coming up. But I can’t wait to share the final product. It’s a fundamentally different approach to untraining, based on brain science. There’s nothing like it out there. I just need to get working on it.

I recently read a statistic online that on average babies go through 6000 diapers from newborn through potty training. Actually I found different numbers ranging from 6000 to 8000 diapers depending on the source. But let’s take 6000 for simplicity. This means if you’ve worn 6000 adult diapers, congrats! You’ve worn more diapers as a “grown up” than as a baby. Going through 6000 diapers may seem like a lot, but if you wear full time and go through 4 diapers a day, it only takes 4 years. Even if you wore casually and averaged 2 diapers a day, it would take a mere 8 years to reach that point. So my guess is that for most of us here, we hit the “6000 club” years ago or even decades ago without ever realizing it.

I suppose it depends on the severity and your desire to stay dry. For that reason I tend to say I have a mix of urge incontinence and functional incontinence. The functional part being my desire to not stay dry. 🙂

Funny you say that. All of my “testing” is during the daytime. I’ve tried testing at night but it’s a very unenjoyable experience. I too sleep like junk when I’m not diapered for the same reason. Besides, even if I did manage to wake up with a full bladder, I’m too sluggish to get out of bed before I have an accident. I guess I value a good night’s sleep more than incontinence.

Every now and then I will purposefully not diaper up just to see how bad my bladder control is. During these tests I make every effort to hold it in and stop what I’m doing to go potty if I feel any urge to pee. I originally did this out of fear that I was “faking” my incontinence. I concluded the only way to know for sure is by going without a diaper to see if I could make it. Ironically, the more I tested myself, the more uncertain and neurotic I became. I failed to make it to the toilet nearly each and every time. But because I knew I secretly wanted to fail, I determined the testing was inconclusive. On the rare occasions i was successful in making it on time, I felt dysphoric. My solution was to keep by putting myself in situations where accidents would lead to more consequences. For example wearing nice clothes, running errands, going on long drives without a diaper on. I kept failing and dealing with cleanups and narrowing escaping embarrassment, but I still couldn’t rule out the possibility I wanted to fail. Eventually I came to my senses and I said enough is enough and stopped trying to prove I’m incontinent. I still like to test my progress from time to time. Though now it’s more for the feels than to prove that I NEED to wear diapers. These days I take precautions like wearing junky clothes and sitting on a puppy pads. I fail to make it to the potty 99% of the time. I figure even if I make it every now and then, I would still need to wear diapers at all times because I’ve never gone more than a few hours without an accident. There’s just something about the idea of failing to stay dry despite your best efforts that is appealing to me. I would love to hear from others who’ve tried testing their incontinence if they’ve ever put themselves in precarious situations, or even test for the fun of it. And if you have no desire to test your progress, tell me why that is!

I have little to no bladder control at this point, day and night. I have never tried to retrain. In fact one of the reasons my untraining was so successful is because I committed to permanent incontinence! Sometimes wonder if I could retrain, and if so, how would it work? I don’t know if I could. The issue I’d run up against is I that my bladder drains on autopilot and my sphincter is stuck relaxed. I pee small amounts every 30-60 minutes or so. Usually I have little to no warning until BAM! 10/10 urgency (urge incontinence). If I pay close attention and I slam the sphincter shut, I have a 5-30 second window between when I sense I have to pee and when the muscles give out. In other words, to retrain I would have to stop working, stop driving, severely restrict my fluids, and be within 10 feet of a toilet at all times. It’s theoretically possible. But I would be miserable.

Amen. It would be very miserable being “stuck” in diapers if you didn’t have a passion for it.

I’ve never had an actual stent in but I have dabbled with catheters. And I agree there’s nothing like that feeling of the constant drip drip drip. Have you ever not worn a diaper while having a stent or catheter in? Sometimes I’ll do that while playing a video games… trying to focus on the objective all the while the nonstop drip drip drip causing my pants to get warmer and wetter. And even simple things like diaper changes and toweling off become a challenge. It makes you appreciate your diaper like nothing else. That said, I have mixed feelings about catheters and stents, and not just because of the safety risks. I am into ageplay, and babies and toddlers don’t dribble non stop. Instead, they reflexively pee when their bladders fill to a certain level… which is how my bladder works after years of untraining. But then again, even if I accidentally wet myself 99/100 times when I don’t have a stent or catheter in and I’m not diapered, it doesn’t feel as intense when you know that there is a possibility you could make it to the toilet if you try hard enough. I’d love to be able to find a way to combine the intense feeling of being a helpless liability that comes from catheters and stents with the natural and regressed feeling that comes from incontinence from untraining.

I’ve never tried a stent before. Trust me I’ve considered it many times over. I have tried catheters quite a few times. I find that reality never matches expectations. It starts off fun, but after a few hours, my urethra feels sore and I don’t like that I can’t move around as easily, and I worry non stop about UTIs. I usually end up taking it out after a few hours because I lose the desire to continue. Maybe it would be different if I wasn’t already incontinent, or if I only wanted temporary incontinence. All of this is to say I am tantalized by the idea of a stent, but your post reminds me to think carefully if I want to go down that path.

And the cherry on top is replacing your underwear drawer with a diaper drawer.

No I didn’t throw my underwear away. I burned them in a bonfire. True story.

After so many years of keeping the muscles relaxed and not making any effort to intentionally hold my bladder, the sphincter muscle stays open and relaxed. I can still clench down but the muscle fatigues easily and goes back to relax mode when I get distracted. Not that I’m complaining. Quite the opposite. One surprising benefit is how much more relaxed I feel emotionally. It’s not just that I feel better being unburdened with continence. But everything down there feels more relaxed which has me feeling relaxed. Sometimes I wonder what it’s like for vanilla people? Do they feel body tension? Or maybe I didn’t learn bladder control correctly? Either way I’m not complaining. Though has anyone else experienced similar results as their muscles weakened?