[What do you think "Vanilla" types think of the ABDL lifestyle?]

@Little Christine, @AwakenEvil, and @tomcddl - thanks for taking the time to respond; you all made some good points.  I am sorry for the late response, and also if my use of the word "crazy" offended anyone.

[What do you think "Vanilla" types think of the ABDL lifestyle?]

@ValentinesStuff and @Little Christine Good posts.  I wonder if - as they say - "everybody's crazy".  Not to add a negative connotation to the lifestyle - it was just the best way I could think of to word it.  In short, no one is really "normal".

[What do you think "Vanilla" types think of the ABDL lifestyle?]

@Little Christine A Keynesian Beauty Contest is a type of thought experiment and theory (I believe created by Keynes) that originated in economics that tries to explain how values of commodities are determined.  But I think it has more general applicability to human behavior when it comes to how values, characteristics, etc. are judged qualitatively / quantitatively, and what comprises the "mean perception of mean perception".  I hope my explanation helps; I forewent it because I thought there were probably at least some people who were familiar with the term, and others could look it up on Google / Wikipedia.

@kaserberang Thanks for sharing your story.  It does seem to be a good example of how those close to us are willing to overlook "faults" in us that
they'd be less likely to overlook in non-family.

@squareduck - at times I wonder the same - that you're not going to change anyone's mind.  But you'd have to agree -  kaserberang is a counterexample; his
brother saw things differently when it was his own family member involved.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is the norm; the point of my question was just to see what a person within the lifestyle might think about the average perception of one external to it.

I appreciate you guys reading and taking the time to respond.

IJ35

[What do you think "Vanilla" types think of the ABDL lifestyle?]

I was wondering what people here think the average "vanilla" person thinks of the ABDL lifestyle.  To keep it simple - out of ten people who have no prior knowledge of it - how many would you think absolutely oppose (on whatever grounds) the lifestyle?

Just a thought...

IJ35

"What others think of you is none of your business."  --Origin Unknown

[Spending too much time here]

On 2/26/2021 at 9:45 AM, Bel George said:

Hi fellow diaper friends,

It is getting difficult to do my job properly.  I just can't seem to stop my poking around here (and other ABDL websites) when I really need to be able to concentrate on my work.
Who has tips for finding a healthy balance between work and ABDL?

There are a few things that do not help:
- I have an office where I am usually alone and I can wear and use diapers without any problems.  The risk of being caught is virtually non-existent.
- at home I have a wife who does not like those diapers, and children who do not know about them, so at home I am limited in the possibilities to give in to my curiosity.

At the end of the month I do notice that I have (again) worked much less than I could and should have.
And, as a self-employed person, I also lose a lot of income this way.

What suggestions can you give to better distribute my time (= work more and read fewer stories and messages)?

Thanks in advance for all the tips.

(To whoever does - thanks for taking the time to read my post).

Props to you, BelGeorge, for taking the first big step and realizing it is a problem.  I might be on the opposite end of the spectrum for you - I might not make enough time on here for this (relatively) important part of my life, but I won't go into details (or make excuses, which are almost always self-serving.)

Lots of good posts above...I think most that suggest setting limits, and exercising willpower thereon are the best.  I think if you have the willpower to admit a problem, you have the willpower to implement a solution such as this.

In closing, to quote Mr. Miyagi from "The Karate Kid" -- "Whole life have a balance, everything be better".

[Northshorecare MegaMax]

Anyone try these vs., say recent versions of ABU Simple, BetterDry, and/or Bambino Bianco?

[How long should you wear a diaper if you don't use it?]

On 1/15/2021 at 2:43 AM, astrodiaper said:

I could use unresolved childhood trauma or some other psychobabble to explain this, but that’s a rabbit hole I’m not sure I want to  explore here. I remember in my pre-preteen years of being somewhat interested in diapers, but not to the point of trying one on.

I remember being in fifth grade and getting a hold of a book about space. Inside the book, there was a mention of how astronauts use the bathroom in space, including wearing something similar to diapers under their suits. On the surface, it was seemingly useless trivia. Of course, the idea of being an astronaut came more into focus when my cousin showed me the program for Space Camp. Some from there, the two ideas connected. 
Do I still want to be an astronaut now? Of course!  I would love to have the opportunity to float out in space, and wet a diaper in my spacesuit. I also know the hazards and the realities as well. I guess this is the closest I get to age play, wearing a flight suit and wetting a diaper, pretending to be an astronaut. Of course, I still pad up outside of my desire to be out in space, it hasn’t been as often as I would like. 
I can see the idea of just wearing and not using. There is something to be said of putting on a fresh diaper. I’m one that unless it’s a Depends pull-up or a Walgreen’s (?) brief, it would seem to be a waste of a good diaper, but that’s me. Especially when they are a bit expensive. (Of course, there’s also the thing about wanting to get more and telling myself that I need to use what I’ve already got.)

Understand - hopefully I didn't come across as pushing you too much.  Even after seven or so years on DD, I'm a bit reluctant to share details about my own experiences, regardless of how anonymous I think I may feel hereon.

I think I see what you're saying about the better quality diapers - if you're not going to use them, it seems like a bit of a waste.  I suppose it depends on whether one views a diaper as a tool, or as a symbol.  But enough about that.

[How long should you wear a diaper if you don't use it?]

On 1/11/2021 at 2:08 AM, astrodiaper said:

In my experience, some of my desire to wet and, to a lesser extent, soil diapers came about the same time I hit puberty, around 13.  I had an interest in diapers well before then, but the desire and actually doing it came around 12 or 13. Now, it seems to be a comfort thing, or a way to cope with things in my life, including some unresolved issues in my childhood. I’m currently not wearing as much as I have in the past, depression, other concerns, who knows?  I’ve come to realize that it comes and goes, and that this is a small part of my life. I there are times where I don’t actually use the diaper, and I chide myself for wasting it, but it too is something that happens. 

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I see - that is interesting.  It almost seems to me like the difference must connect to some kind of specific experience (and I suppose that it need not be a childhood experience at that.)  You need not go into detail, but may I ask if it corresponded to a specific event or experience around that time?  I'm sure there are plenty of effects that have no cause, but I was curious.

To use or not to use appears to be as varied a choice as to AB or to DL (not saying they are mutually exclusive, but some forums hereon do talk about the idea.)

[How long should you wear a diaper if you don't use it?]

I would like to participate briefly in this discussion.

I myself wear without wetting or soiling.  We could chalk it up to personal preference and not look any further, but I'm the type of person that looks for explanations for just about everything.  I wonder - could one's predilection for either wetting/soiling (or not) possibly tie back to whatever experiences he/she may have had with diapers as a child, and whether or not they were related to toilet training?  I know, pretty Freud-ish, but just a theory.

[Needing advice]

I found the re-post of Bgoalie95 above to be one of the better pieces on the subject.  I also found the following on the ABDL reddit, and thought to share here; I think user Baby-Faye-Rose did a very good job describing.

 

•Posted by

u/err0rheart2

 

5 days ago

 

 

Managing Embarrasment

 

 

nsfw

Do any of you get embarrassed about your little side even around people that are ok with it? My bf knows I'm abdl, and while he's vanilla he does still help me pick out onesies and diapers and stuff, I know he's ok with it but sometimes, randomly when I'm all littled up with my onesie and thick diaper with a paci holding my stuffie I'll get really embarrassed out of nowhere and wind up shutting down. It's like a different version of me looks at me when I'm little and mocks me about it. Does anyone else here experience something similar?

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I think you may be projecting some expectation of societal norms onto yourself. Like "Ok most people don't do this. Maybe this is just wrong or degenerate in some way. Maybe I shouldn't be doing this. Oh gosh! He's judging me!" Or you may be wondering if deep down, does he REALLY accept this, or does he just tolerate it.
Well one thing would be to talk to him about it. Let him know what littlespace does for you, and ask him to be honest about his own feelings about you being in littlespace. If he's helping you pick out diapers and onesies, he's seemingly supportive. So I don't think he's bothered by it or is judging you. And as far as societal norms go, What is "Normal" anyways? Everybody has some quirk that someone else is going to find strange. Human beings are not cookie-cutter creations, and we should never try to be so. We all have fetishes, interests and other proclivities that make us unique. Without them, we are just the same, and "same" is BORING!
Just let me tell you this, There is not a damn thing wrong with what you are doing! Wearing diapers is AMAZING! Being able to regress and just let go of the adult stresses and worries and just cuddle up with a nice cushy-tushy and a stuffie while wearing a cute onesie is a rare ability. If more people could learn how to just regress once in a while, this world would be far less stressful and more colorful and cheerful. Just because our bodies age, and our minds become more developed and we learn how to "adult", that does not mean we have to stop playing. pretending, wondering, and it certainly doesn't mean that we have to lose that childish innocence and sense of wonder and freedom that regression and ageplay brings to so many of us.

Stay wonderful. Stay happy. Stay you. You are beautiful.

[Any ab printed diapers without that huge thick tape zone?]

On 11/17/2020 at 2:03 AM, 360dude said:

I’m simply a dl not ab. But I do get bored with plain non printed diapers. I’m looking for a printed ab diaper that doesn’t have that huge thick clear tape zone on the front. I know abu diapers have them for sure and bambino’s. But not sure about anything else. Is that even available??

It's been a while since I've tried them (not a fan of the fit of the single-tape design), but I seem to remember the ABU SDK having a landing zone that was much thinner and softer than most at the time.  The best I could describe it is it was a sort of matte-like plastic (almost looking like the typical scotch tape - translucent, but certainly not clear.) 

I'm not sure if they have updated the design since then.

[What is your faith?]

On 12/21/2020 at 1:41 AM, Firefly 35 said:

Interesting point.  Does reincarnation tie into this at all?  Some Buddhists say that there are a nearly infinite number of past and future lives for every person, similar to the idea in science of there being parallel universes for every situation.

Thanks for taking the time to read and respond.

Re: reincarnation -- I think so (I know the word came up numerous times in conversations with my friend, but I can't remember for sure the denominational context).  Of the Eastern religions, I think there are some that believe in reincarnation, and some that believe in no afterlife or existence at all after you die - you just "become energy", to put it imprecisely.

The idea of "parallel universes" for every situation is an interesting one too.  I think in a quantum sense, there's an array of probabilistic causes for every effect, and the observation determines which one "wins out" (or "won out" - even that might be a question - sometimes outcomes can be determined or altered by the very act of observing / measuring.)

While I happen to be a person of faith, I completely understand that people out there can make good (and mostly justifiable) claims that I am suffering from an irrational delusion.  But the way I see it, if I ensure that my delusion affects no one but me, then I'm not hurting anyone by clinging to it, right?

[What is your faith?]

3 hours ago, Diapered Jason said:

I'll start by saying I'm an atheist and an expert in physics.

People don't realize that Albert Einstein was fundamentally wrong about quantum mechanics because of his preconceptions from his religious beliefs. He would not have been able to understand modern physics today, because of that limitation and as a result been unable to think of lasers or modern day computers as a result. Their is a lesson there actually. I think there is no issue in believing in a God as long as you remember that the tenets of your religion are for wisdom and not knowledge. If you do that, then you can keep moving forward while also avoiding the traps in life.

There are good lessons to be learned in most religions. The Dharma in Buddhism reads a lot like the sevens habits of highly effective people and Dave Ramsey gives great advice on money management. I saw their wisdom and it fundamentally changed how I ran my household, but I left their beliefs at the front door. Whether or not you agree with their beliefs is your choice, but it shouldn't matter.

Thanks for taking the time to reply - I appreciated your response.

I didn't know that about Einstein - thanks for sharing.  I think what you said about wisdom vs. knowledge was good too.

I have a good friend who is also in the hard sciences, but identifies as Buddhist.  He was talking a bit about how Buddhism and modern physics appear to be "converging" in a sense, especially when it comes to concepts like karma, and it being little more than cause and effect.  We had some good discussions on the subject, because I'd read a little about it (and also took one course on modern physics for my degree...it was difficult for me, and a very big step from classical physics.)

[Diaper lover or adult baby]

Mostly DL.  In the past year or two, I think I've come to appreciate wearing a little more, almost in the direction of AB and what the diapers symbolize.  I've come to enjoy the Bellissimo diapers, both for comfort and image. 

I don't wet or soil, and most of my wearing (up until a year or two ago) has been with the goal of climaxing.  But I think the idea of the diaper as a comforting escape of sorts is growing on me.  Am still having difficulty sleeping in them, as they still are a source of stimulation, but I'm still working through that.  There were some other good message boards about this subject, e.g., sleeping chaste while wearing.

[Is this really a welcoming community of diaper lovers?]

On 12/2/2020 at 7:15 PM, kinkygaybottom said:

Because so far, it has been a rather poor experience as a newbie.  When I first found here, I thought I had found a home, others similar, and could learn, get tips, listen to others, and maybe even get some support for something that is so new and scary.

I have posted on the forums a number of times, and apart from one thread of interest, not much else interaction from others.

I regularly jump in chat, say hi, say bye, be pleasant, and try to chat with others.

So many times have said things, to people, only to be completely ignored, many times just left there, and felt worthless.

Generally how I feel form this community is worthless, like I am not welcome, I am new, I do not fit in the inner click, so it feels like until I prove my worthiness, I will not be accepted or welcome.

Is this generally how it works on here, if so, will pack my bags and leave, because so far, very few members have made me feel at all welcome.

I read this, and thought since recently "re-joining" the site from time to time I felt the same.  But I also have had to admit to myself that over my period of inactivity (the past six or so years), the crowd may have changed and those with whom I interacted may not be around any more.  This, coupled with the fact that I'm only on DD a small handful of times per month, and I can't really blame most people for being hesitant to interact.

You seem like the kind of person who is able to get along with most anyone; fill a room with folks having the same personality as you, and I'm sure any new person - introvert or extrovert - who tried to join the room would be made to feel welcome.  I have a feeling though that most people who identify as ABDL are more type-B personalities, and thus hesitant to interact with folks without having a chance to warm up to them.

Just my $0.02 - hope things are going better for you.

[Bad Jokes]

On 12/7/2020 at 12:39 PM, astrodiaper said:

Is it wrong that as I read the answer, I start thinking of the song “A Lap Dance Is Better When So Much Better When The Stripper Is Crying” by Bloodhound Gang?

Thanks for responding!

Ummm...not sure, right or wrong.  ;)

To be honest, I'd heard of that song, but never listened to it...very funny!  (I was something of a pop/Top 40 zombie when "Bad Touch" came out, so I knew that one, but that was about it.)

[Bad Jokes]

Q: What do you call a man who wears disposable diapers?

A: Russell

[What is your faith?]

Interesting Forum - have been on and off DD for a number of years, but never noticed this subforum.  Thanks to all who contributed.

I enjoyed reading the above posts, even some that touched on the downsides of religion.  I may be a person of faith, but I also think it's hard to argue against the "abuses of religion".  I'm not talking specifically about the clergy abuse that has infected the Catholic church for a century or more now, but rather of the historical use of religion as a tool to control.  It must have become obvious at some point to those in power by convincing the masses of their ignorance and/or inability to understand the creator or have a personal relationship with one, their behavior could more easily be influenced.  When it became more about control and influence than about enlightenment, spiritualization, and self-improvement, well...hard to say only good things about it.

So oftentimes, I find it very difficult to blame those people who identify as atheist or such.  A very good friend of mine is atheist, and one thing I need to remind myself is that one of the worst ways I can "disrespect" him as a friend in my mind is to feel bad for him, i.e., thinking "I feel bad that he will never know God, etc."  As soon as I do, I think it then takes on the tone of those that think that because others don't buy into their religion, that they are "going to their religion's hell," or what have you.

Also being in a profession of the hard sciences, many of us know that there seems to be more and more "proof against the existence of God" in the veins of modern physics and biology.  I think continuing to hold a belief in a higher power need not be precluded by this; some very notable scientists tend to straddle the fence on this (some very seminal thoughts and philosophy if you read about some of A. Einstein's views on God.)

I also think it interesting that I happened upon this forum during the holiday season, when at least some of us are reminded of some of the tenets of our faith.  I'm sure some are better practitioners of our faiths than others, but this whole idea of "Good Christian" still is a sticking point for me.  I remember reading a bit about Anton LaVey, who I believe was one of the founders of modern Satanism.  He made an excellent point about men who, and I quote, live in vice one day, and then ask for forgiveness the next, as if there faith absolved them of the need to try and make fewer mistakes to begin with, to "do less evil and more good", rather than just fall back on the idea that "we are sinners and are unable to help it".

Again, good conversations.

Happy Holidays / Solstice / Christmas / Chaunnakah / Kwanzaa.  And here's hoping for a new year better than this, as I heard someone put it, "Dumpster Fire inside a train wreck of a year" 2020.

[Diaper junkie???]

My $0.02 - I'm not a clinician, and surely this has been said on other boards in this forum, but I think one of the hallmarks of addiction
is whether or not a detriment exists to health, family, career, etc.  If your wearing is not causing you to neglect one or more of these, then
it's probably not worth worrying too much about it.  I know this leaves open the possibility for the "self-serving bias" wherein someone might
not objectively evaluate the degree to which their life is impacted by their fetish, but that cannot always be the case.

An example comes to mind - I saw the "My Strange Addiction" episode with AB Riley Kilo, and it almost seems like they mislabeled her thereon
for the sake of drama-based entertainment.  I obviously know little about her, but nothing about what I have read or seen leads me to believe
that the lifestyle choice has a negative effect on the rest of her life.

[Bambino Diapers Brand]

21 hours ago, Crinklz Kat said:

Well, that new case is pretty much just like the old ones... maybe just slightly different.  The plastic feels smoother than in the past (I like it that way), but otherwise, it's still 100% plastic exterior.  Tapes are now clear too and seem to be improved.

So, not sure why they say "non woven backsheet" on the site.  However, I get XL, and they apparently don't sell as much as med/lg.  The 2 cases of Teddy v1 I bought at the same time were 2017 production.  (was stamped right on the box).

Thanks much for taking the time to check and reply back.  I may order again. 

I just purchased some of the ABU Simple, and they seem to be somewhat similar in design (different, softer poly which I like, but no printed panel - still fit well and are very comfortable.  The adhesive on the fastening tapes seems to be a different composition as well.)

[Any Discontinued Diapers You Miss?]

20 hours ago, ValentinesStuff said:

Since P&G sold the Attends line to Paper Pak, they probably can't divulge anything about design specs.

I was just thinking that if they (whomsoever owns the line) no longer produces that model, they might be willing to disclose design specs (possibly at a price).

[Bambino Diapers Brand]

18 hours ago, Crinklz Kat said:

I ordered a case when the launched the new site --- haven't opened any yet but now you got me curious.  I need to restack the "supply closet" so I'll grab a bag then to check.

That would be swell, thanks.  Let me know what you find out.

[Any Discontinued Diapers You Miss?]

Second attendsdiapers' post.  Was fortunate to locate a number of bags some years back at a pharmacy in a smaller town close to my home town.  I thought it was interesting that they did not feature the "landing zone" pretty much ubiquitous on disposables nowadays, but the tapes did not tear the cover and yet still worked very well.

Too bad one of the ABDL diaper companies couldn't see if P&G would be willing to share their design / "poly formula" details.

[Bambino Diapers Brand]

Despite the issues mentioned above, has anyone ordered and received Bellissimo "V1" recently?  I had seen on their website that they have gone from a plastic cover to a "non-woven cover material" (I confirmed with CS that this is a cloth-like material, and the landing zone is the only plastic portion remaining.)

[Bambino Diapers Brand]

Any comments about the new design of the gathered waistband?