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Are you the same person that asked this on ADISC? Just in case you're not, I'll say the same here. To be big enough to actually work, it will hurt constantly and you won't ever get used to the pain. The extra large tunnel plug from Perfect Fit is as thick as a 12oz coke can. You won't feel anything at all when you mess, so the best part of it is now lost to constant dull pain instead. You also won't feel it once it's out because the base of the plug that prevents it from going up inside of you and getting lost covers up the part where you would normally feel the mess after. It will also be so soft that leakage

I took another pic for ADISC with a 3 by 3 stack so I posted that below. It looks to be a 20-30% drop in thickness. A couple of people there confirmed they noticed the changes and did see a loss of capacity as well. One person speculated that Bambino increased the SAP and lowered the pulp filler. I can't post a picture of it for obvious reasons, but I did not notice any increase in swelling with the new products. However none of this is scientific. I don't know how to measure SAP precisely in a diaper. I just know that more SAP = more swelling. DailyDi said they were packaged tighter and I bet that's true, but the bags also weigh less now, so something is missing. If someone is willing to waste one of each with a water pour test please let us know your results!

So far I haven't noticed a reduced capacity with the new Biancos, despite being lighter. And their Bellissimos are still reasonably priced in the market.

I ordered more Biancos from their recent Halloween sale. They have made them thinner and use lower quality, less soft plastic than the batch four months before that. This is standard operating procedure for Bambino. Every time a new product comes out, they claim it's the thickest ever. They do this by decreasing the thickness of their other products. Oh and the new product's

It could have been market segmentation. I was on the east coast at the time. Maybe they stuck with plastic on the west coast.

They may've had plastic backed at the time too, but the first diapers I ever bought for myself as an adult were the Pampers size 6 in 2001. They were cloth-backed and had various animals on the front panels like a dalmation with a firefighter helmet and one of the Sesame Street characters. Only just barely fit and even then because back then I was severely underweight. Here's some proof. Attached pic is from this 2001 vintage pampers auction. It advertised

Wow, that price is criminal. $128 for a case of 40 diapers is just nuts. That's $3.20 a diaper. No way, not even for special occasions. Buying at this price tells the market this kind of pricing is acceptable. Hell no it isn't. If the whole AB market went to this price level, us nonrich 24/7 wearers would have to go back to medical brands. I just used the 45% off coupon for Fabines imported from Europe and got those for $1.30 a diaper shipped. The Fabines last as long as Bellissimo, which last longer than I can even wear them due to odor, about 10-12 hours. It's also an all over print too. I have supported Bambino since they started in 2006. But not this time, sorry. Or at least hopefully they won't advertise it until it's closer to shipping.

Eww, that's the worst time to do that! Hopefully you washed your hair after you finished cleaning up

There's a lot of people who care more about getting attention for themselves than the best interests of the community they are

I have heard that for medical stents, there's a real risk of the urethra growing tissues around the stents. Once this happens, surgery is required to cut the stent free.

I almost never get rashes. I seem to have skin of steel, lucky me! The only thing that causes a rash is being messy when it's too soft and I go for 12+ hours. I have times when it is inconvenient too. Sometimes it's really late at night and I'm starting to leak so I have to get out of bed and change and I really don't want to, tired and the lights being on will end up making it harder to sleep again. Maybe this is cheating but the way I handle being naked between the shower and changing is by holding it closed with my hand rather than using the bladder muscle. Yay to being a boy hahah

I still want to know what incontinent people have experienced that they think I haven't.

Do these guys send out shipment notifications and provide tracking numbers? If so, how long did it take them to do so after you ordered?

Actually, the base models are 30 cents each. I said 60 cents because that's the top-end price. And since it's China, that's the sucker's price: everything in China is negotiable. It's a bartering economy over there. Here are the links: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ABDL-adult-Baby-print-diapers-buying_60282484718.html https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Adult-Diapers-carton-pictures-print-by_60323333810.html Casey actually responded and stated this is not the distributor they use. But obviously he won't tell us who they really use. But the bottom line is: they're buying these from China through Chinese companies with Chinese machines and Chinese abusive labor practices and pay. They ordered a product, and are selling it to us for more money. They're resellers. Look, I'm all for it! I buy from ABU and Bambino both! Because I am weary to send a shady Chinese company $10000 or more, because I don't have room to store 20000 diapers in my house, because if anything goes wrong I'll have no recourse. I know ABU and Bambino have to pay their own salaries, taxes on their sales, shipping fees (which are really high!) to send to my doorstep, etc. But I wasn't born yesterday: they're making a profit. And a good one. This is a full-time, boring, exhausting job. You don't do this job because it's fun as a charity. So don't be naive about it. They're charging as much as they possibly can before sales would dip too low and they'd make less profit. Like any good business does. But anyone who has $25000 to spare can get into this game. Look at how many disposable AB/DL diaper companies there are today! Classy Comfort, Aww So Cute, Bambino (Magnifico, Bellisimo, Teddy, Classico, Bianco), AB Universe (Space, Lavender, LittlePawz, Simple, Cushies, Super Dry Kids, etc), Buntewindel/Fabine (Exclusive), Rearz (Safari, Princess, Seduction, Spoiled), Snuggies/Tykables (Waddler), BareBum, Crinklz, Cuddlz, MyDiaper (Night Animal, Night), Dotty Diaper Company (Pink Dotty the Pony), Sexy Adult Diaper (despite the name, they're AB themed), Diappizz (they stole your Cushies design but added two tapes per side), NetDiapers (another one stealing your SDK design), etc! I'll pay the price because I think it's worth it (I consider it insurance markup), but I'm not gonna pretend any company in the world is doing me a favor when selling to me. I agree 100%. If they weren't making enough profit to be worth it, they'd stop selling. I wish they were more fair on the medium range though. I won't buy SDKs because for only 11% more money, I get a diaper that lasts twice as long! That's just common sense. The SDK prices are criminal. They're not even full print diapers, just a tape panel. Bambino are similarly bad with their medium range Teddies and Classicos. Plus the no front waistband and single-tape per side are form over function and make the SDK product perform worse. I'm never gonna buy from netdiapers.com because it's super shady. But it doesn't surprise me at all that someone saw an opportunity to undercut ABU on SDK pricing. All I'm saying is, if the more than $3 a diaper at case quantity model of Rearz catches on, and Bambino and ABU up their prices to match then I'm gonna start seriously considering a Chinese order of my own. But for now I will keep buying at $2 a diaper for premium, and wait for sales to pay $1.20 a diaper for medium. Boat shipping 20000 diapers will cost a lot, that is true. But there's a reason 100% of AB/DL diapers are made in China. There's no way it'd be cheaper to make them in the US. We have much stricter labor laws and higher costs of living. But at the end of the day, unless Casey shares his supplier, and breaks down his costs, we are all speculating on how much he is profiting per sale. All we can say for sure is he's making enough money that it's worth all the incredible trouble it is to run a business like this.

New site is super shady, would never trust buying from there. But back to ABU.. can you really "own" the SDK print? Isn't it just lifted from Pampers in the '80s? Which I don't mind, wonderful on the authenticity aspect. But it's a bit pot calling the kettle black, isn't it? As for the prices, we are definitely getting gouged. That should be obvious to anyone, we're a niche market and we pay dearly for it. You can find the companies ABU and Bambino are using selling the same products on Alibaba. Imported, you're looking at about 60 cents a diaper last I checked. But the real problem: you have to order 5000 of them at a time. And if it's a bad batch, good luck getting your money back from China. That said, even with that, the prices of the medium-quality lines at ABU and Bambino are obscene- SDK, Cushies, Teddies, Classico. They're 80-90% the price of the super premium ones- Space, LittlePawz, Bellissimo, but only last half as long before needing a change. I wait for the two times a year Bambino does a sale to stock up on the biggest discounted medium-quality ones, only way they're even remotely economical. If I run out before another sale, I'll have to switch to the clump-tastic ATNs I'm okay with the sub-$2 prices for the premium ones for overnight use though. But the Rearz ones at more than $3 each at case pricing? That's criminal! I hope no one buys those.. we don't want the market to think more than $3 a diaper is acceptable!

I would fully support that. I've been wearing 24/7 with the exception of three or four ER and primary care doctor visits for about 13 years now. I would even be ok with going to the doctor like that if it truly were necessary, but I don't see the point in lying to a doctor about my health or explaining my desires to them. I try my best to go even if it's between showers and putting on a new diaper, although I'll confess it almost never happens. I am not seeking out an Indian docor to do elective surgery on me, though The main difference is the transgender community is too large to pretend they don't exist, at 1% of the population or so. But the incontinence-desire community is probably about 0.00001% of the population. So it's really easy to just write us off as being crazy, and pretend our BIID is a joke while gender dysphoria BIID is serious. Yes, some people fetishize incontinence. Just like some people fetishize being the other gender, but wouldn't actually like the reality of dealing with a world that wrongly hates them, wouldn't be able to handle the limited career options, partner options, etc. Basically, everyone in life thinks they know what you want better than you yourself know. And they make you pay for it however they can. We do the same thing with drug use, suicide, etc. Because a small number of people make irrational choices that aren't in their best interests, we have a nanny state that wants to control and take away your own autonomy. My view is, the world is full of things that aren't fair. If you make a poor choice in haste and end up regretting it, that's your own fault, and you should deal with the consequences of it. Responsible people shouldn't be constrained because of a few bad apples. I do truly believe I'd be a lot happier with urinary incontinence. I don't know why I am this way anymore than a person feels they were born the wrong gender. And if there were a safe and legitimate way to do this, and I ended up not liking it after all, I'd have only myself to blame, and my action would not have harmed anyone else.

Don't get anything metallic, that will be too painful to keep in more than a few minutes. Your best bet would be this https://perfectfitbrand.com/product/tunnel-plug#enter Specifically the size large. Medium's diameter is too small, even with laxatives nothing will get through. The large is unbelievably painful and difficult to insert the first ten times you try it. You will probably think it's impossible to even insert when you see it, it's ridiculous how big it is. But it has to be for this to work, so you'll either have to deal with it or give up on this goal. Perhaps try one of those lidocaine-containing anal lubricants, but be careful and take it slow. Even after lots of practice, it'll still hurt to keep the large plug in. And if you aren't taking laxatives, the large hole will plug up. It really has to be almost liquid to work at all. All said and done, it's too large, too painful, and too difficult for me to enjoy this at all. YMMV.

Most people say it doesn't cause incontinence for them. I've also heard of it paradoxically being considered as a treatment for incontinence. Real mixed bag. All hypothetical anyway, you're never going to be able to get the treatment done when there's nothing otherwise wrong with you. Botox isn't something you can pick up a vial of and self-administer. And even if you could, it'd be very reckless to attempt.

Like most things, I just want an on/off switch. I don't like my body being stuck in the mode that automatically retains urine/waste and automatically gets erections. I want to have real control!! where I can turn those things off when I'm not interested, like when I'm in diapers anyway and have much more important things to be doing than wasting time on meaningless sexual urges. Sure it's fun for a moment, but real purpose in life are things that take long amounts of time and challenge us to our limits. Sexual urges are just primitive reproductive instincts and only get in the way. In my case, given the lack of ability to turn these things off, I'd take a hypothetical pill that had no side effects other than turning these things off permanently, but since such a thing doesn't exist, I guess I'm stuck with them To answer your question, yes it's very weird, but so are diapers. Doesn't bother me to be weird.

After having tried a tunnel plug for bowel incontinence simulation; I'd really like to try a stent. I wear and use 24/7 already, and do have that annoying desire for incontinence (it's as rational as adults wanting to wear diapers, but just as difficult to get rid of) But I want to start with a proper catheter at least before I start inserting home-made pieces in there. Can't find anyone that will sell the hydrophilic ones to me over the internet with no prescription though =(

I can assure you that there is no possible way you can keep an oversized plug in for 2-3 months straight. First, once they get large enough, they squeeze the prostate and restrict the urethra. You won't be able to urinate with it in. Second, that area is filled with nerve endings. You have no idea how painful it can get down there, well before you get to anything even close to causing damage. Alcohol won't even take the edge off. You won't be able to sit normally, you won't be able to focus or work on anything, you will have difficulty sleeping, your thoughts will be locked on the extreme, constant pain. Even if you pulled it off, it's likely to have the opposite effect. The muscles when closed are mostly relaxed. Stretching with a plug makes them try to clench, hence the pain. It's like hoping your leg muscles will atrophy by running five miles every day.

It's probably a spam bot promoting that website link. But it's funny to think a real person would make that mistake, hahah