[Reverse engineering a diaper]

7 hours ago, Dubious said:

I bet only Rearz has a patent on their ABDL diapers. 
Most medical diapers most likely has some kind of protection. 

Many products that stops being made when the machine they was made on breaks, cause it would be to expensive to make the same on a different machine.
If a product you bought has changed, that might be the reason.

You can buy diapers on Alibaba or similar sites, delivered in a container. 

I don't think any of the ABDL brands have patent protection. Most of them compete on IP grounds. While we are talking about Rearz, I seem to recall them being the ones that tried to copy-write "ABDL" in Canada.

[The Potty Draining Chart (The Final Day, Sep 24)]

11 hours ago, Wannatripbaby said:

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! 😩😩😩

This is not meant as a criticism, as leaving the aftermath open to reader interpretation is just as valid as giving a concrete answer. 

But man! I was really hoping we'd get to see what happens after the 2 weeks were up! 😅 I'm probably in the minority here, but I was hoping Nicole would go back to normal physically and mentally, but having been forever changed by the shared experience between herself and Vanessa. 

I was kinda hoping the same but that it would appear on Venessa's door. Both knowing what is coming but no way to stop it.

[Thoughts on ABDL cloth Backed Diapers?]

I have been on a huge Tykables Animooz kick lately. I think they may be my absolute favorite diaper period. I don't have any problems with weeping. Maybe a little more on the smell side but that is after extended use (12+ hours)

[The Potty Draining Chart (The Final Day, Sep 24)]

@PeculiarChangeling

[The Potty Draining Chart (The Final Day, Sep 24)]

@PeculiarChangelingFirst of all, love the name of the story and been enjoying the premise and story so far. Looking forward to more.

[What does your diaper stash look like]

1 hour ago, Crinklz Kat said:

So .... I ask again, is it possible to have too many diapers? 🙄   I even have a "guard dog" to protect it! 😆  This isn't quite all of them either. 

Is that 8 cases of Tykables?

[How could I get diapers without my parents knowing]

You can also have packages delivered to FedEx and UPS locations. I can't remember if it is Walgreens or CVS but they are pickup locations as well. You send the package there w/ your name and you can pick up the package.

[Pre-Training Ideas]

9 hours ago, Mindylou said:

Keep those sphincter muscles relaxed even if you have to check yourself several times a day.. they will eventually forget how to clench . And experiment (buy bags, not cases) of two or three varieties of diapers at a time to learn what works for you.. which ones are comfortable, less detectable (or more, whichever your preference), how long they last and hold the smell in.. key is finding a few brands you absolutely trust to wet in, poop in, and not leak. And find the same trustworthy ones in different thickness diapers for different purposes.  It's a long process but definitely doable. 

I feel like there is a place for all three. Samples. Bags. Cases

Samples are great for does this diaper physically fit my body

Bags are good for how does this diaper fit. Does it leave weird gaps quality issues that leak.

Cases - During the experiment phase. Can I live with this diaper in all the scenarios that I need it to and also judge quality control.

One thing I will say about the clenching is you probably need to do it more than a few times a day. I actually bought a fitbit watch that has a timer and set it for 15 minutes as reminder to relax. If you start wearing it day one it can be a visual reminder of diapers that no one else knows about as well.

[Pre-Training Ideas]

I have read and seen many guides of things to do on day one and the following weeks/months of diaper training. But I do not think I have ever seen anyone discuss things that you can do before officially starting. Whether you want to dip your toes, not quite ready to commit, or unable due to situation, I hope this helps as a pre-guide of habits and ideas.

 

You are here because diapers are not a passing fancy. They may have started as a kink, fetish, or experimentation, but now a driving force, a desired lifestyle. These are things I wish I had done before starting my 24/7 journey or things that if you are not able to start training today that you can do to work towards your goals of losing bladder or bowel control.

 

One thing I will say after wearing 24/7 for awhile now is that there is a definite difference between wearing very rarely like I did when I was younger and the concentrated emotions that come along with that versus wearing daily to bed and the relaxing feeling that one can have while wearing at home or to bed versus wearing all day every day. There are logistical and financial obstacles that reduce the enjoyment. The same way that eating ice cream is savored after a single bite, enjoyed after a bowl, and the taste is there but not the same intensity on the second bowl or whole pint. This isn't to dissuade you from wearing but at least consider

 

So with out further adieu and in no particular order:

 

1. 1. Save $300-500 per month – This number sounds ridiculous at first until you start running the math on quality diapers. Most mid range medical diapers will run over $1.50 and close to $2.00 each and will require 3 to 4 diapers a day. Top ABDL brands can cost $3 or more and boosters/doublers can run up over $1 each. So the number may be high but if you go several months and able to put that amount away you will guarantee that in present circumstances you will be able to maintain the lifestyle.

      1. This is the absolute top range of what one may expect to pay but by doing it you have proven to yourself that you can do it. Furthermore $300X12 is $3,600. That amount of money would grant you any amount of clothing that you may need to fit over your new diapered state. Reusable products such as cloth diapers and plastic pants. Several months of disposable products that you should have on hand to ensure that you never run out

   2. Consider experimenting with cloth diapers even if you only like disposables. I like cloth diapers for an in between myself. I need a change but know I am not ready for my next disposable for what ever reason, such as on my way out the door to go work out/hike, or some other situation where I want a completely fresh diaper. I also use them occasionally for working out/walking as they do not bunch up or break down due to physical activity.

      1. Something else to consider on cloth diapers. That if you are under 50 (2023) odds are single use plastics and products will be banned in your life time. There may be a period that medical products are exempt but it is most likely coming and you will be forced to use reusable products 100% of the time.

      2. Cloth diapers can also be a great stopgap for lean times when every dollar counts such as layoffs and other times you might be under or unemployed. If you start 24/7 and become incontinent the cost of diapers goes from a discretionary and fun expense to a compulsory one.

   3. Become a habit forming machine – Think of incontinence as a degree and all the little things you do in between as different courses and prereqs.

      1. 1. Keeping diapers around at all times

         2. Wearing 24/7

         3. Keeping relaxed sphincters

         4. wetting/messing regardless of situation

      2. If you are overweight- make this a habit/goal that you achieve in your time leading up to your start date. Aside from the health benefits there are two other great benefits. 1. Some diaper brands are price sensitive to size. Some have almost a 10% delta from the smallest to largest sizes. Odds are you will not be able to drop from an XL to an XS, BUT there can still be a 2-3% price drop between sizes. 2. Diapers become more efficient/hold more with less weight placed on them. Similar to press out there is a process that I call diaper damming that prevents the liquid from absorbing in the first place. By losing weight you reduce this effect. There are two other smaller benefits. For men, fat can build up around the penis and push your urethra forward reducing efficiency. I firmly believe that if you can associate wearing diapers with positive experiences your outcomes will be better.

      3. The diet outlined in the 12 month program is not particularly strict but if your diet is currently SAD (Standard American Diet) it can be a change and probably necessary to see any results in bowel control. The low fiber foods of most people lead to poop that is far too firm to be passed easily

      4. Hypnosis/Self Hypnosis – Some people easily slip into trance and find nearly instant success w/ hypnosis. Some almost none. However, going into trance on demand is a skill that can be trained and worked on. If you can do this and find a hypnotic recording you like it can greatly increase your success when you do decide to go 24/7. I have found some luck with hypnosis in at least minimum it helps reinforce the dedication to a new way of living

         1. Find a recording that is geared towards releasing/relaxing while wearing. 24/7 wear plus this habit could equal instantaneous effective incontinence

   4. Make a list of things you enjoy/want to do. Figure out how you will do that diapered. If you find yourself giving up things because of diapers you will be less likely to continue.

   5. Find a daily/primary diaper. A mistake that I have made is way too many diapers and no ability to build confidence/habit in any one diaper

      1. Having different diapers for different situations is not a bad thing but try to limit that number to as low as possible especially when first starting out in untraining

   6. Really pay attention to the urination process now. Really get a feel for the muscles that are working and how they work. The 12 month program calls for reverse kegals and you will feel a drop doing them but I found that there are at least 2 or 3 levels of relaxation and drop past the simple act of relaxed pelvic floor

   7. If you are pee shy work on improving that. If you think you are pee shy in a bathroom stall in a place designated by society for peeing, just wait until you are trying it in front of family, friends, and coworkers in a taboo way.

   8. Work on becoming comfortable peeing in any position. If you can form this habit now you will be one giant step ahead when you start 24/7 and untraining

      1. How an ABDL uses a diaper is different than an incontinent person. Such as: shifting positions before use, holding for changes. These habits can be detrimental to “authentic” or incontinent use. Try to break these habits now.

      2. Similar to shifting positions adjusting inside your diaper (for men) should be done periodically if needed outside the bounds/thoughts of actually going

   9. Go out and do as many experiences as you can diapered and also importantly with a diaper bag. This is another habit of ABDL vs incontinent individual is the ability to hold changes how many diapers one wears throughout the day and carrying a diaper bag is unnecessary. This adds another layer of logistics when you go 24/7 for incontinence.

   10. Really consider and have a good list of reasons why. Some people throw on a diaper and accidentally become incontinent. It has been my experience that it will take time and dedication to achieve. Having a very clear reason and motivation will clear the path for yourself mentally

 

Like I said before. I didn't do any of these before I started but kinda wish that I did. Regardless of what you decide good luck and enjoy.

 

[Free Diapers]

5 hours ago, Dubious said:

I think most, if not all of us would fall for that trick/trap, just to see what would happen. 

Worst case scenario if you fell for the trap you wouldn't have to go potty on the floor!

[Free Diapers]

 

I just came here for the diapers I swear!

[First Time Seeing These]

10 hours ago, diaperguy said:

Yeah that price tag made me cringe a bit. If you figure just for example, a cheapo pack of Assurance is $17.00 then add these for stuffers at $30.00. thats damn near $50.00. I can get Abena or Betterdry for ballpark the same price. No stuffers required for me anyways.

Granted it is case pricing BUT these 2xl booster from XP Medical are in the ballpark and guarantee they will absorb 2 or 3x as much and made for it vs something that doesn't have a permeable back.

[First Time Seeing These]

 

6 hours ago, rusty pins said:

Unfortunately I can't see what weight they recommend for that size, even though I zoomed to 400!  I'd guess off hand probably fit 7 to 10 year old's maybe, but that could be a stretch depending if the kid is on the smaller size.  If you get some, let us know!  You can always use them as stufferes!

Only problem with that is at $29 that is $.76 EA. Getting awfully close to the price for actual high quality products made for that sort of thing. My humble opinion at least

 

[First Time you pooped a diaper and why?]

I was lying down desperately bearing down trying to pee when instead of peeing I pooped. I HATED that first time and swore I would never do it again. HHHAHAHAHH🤣

[Going to be talking to my doctor about wanting to be incontinent. Any tips?]

1 hour ago, mewtwo said:

 

did you both miss the part where I said my friend gets crinkles on insurance? The exact same insurance I get. State issued insurance. Not saying I would get prescribed diapers but he is able to get crinkles.

well I am a long ways off from surgery. Not even sure if that's really what I even want. maybe just being able to wear diapers 24/7 would be enough for me. Also thanks for the tip I will tell the doctor I do not intend to cause myself any harm. And I'm not going to do anything like perform surgery or anything on myself. It's interesting you mentioned wanting daily diapers to have a medical doctor and mental health professional. Not sure how it's done over there where you live but in America they wouldn't be able to really do much. in America a doctor couldn't prescribe anything or really tell you anything more than go and talk to your regular doctor if they were on a forum. And even then that might be too much.

No need to be rude. I assumed from your post that you were looking to get some sort of procedure or surgery to make yourself incontinent.

Personally if you want to have something physically done to yourself. More power to you. But to dip into government assistance in my opinion is crossing a line. You can either afford it, or you can't

[Going to be talking to my doctor about wanting to be incontinent. Any tips?]

4 hours ago, mewtwo said:

So I'm going to be talking to my doctor about wanting to be incontinent. I've been wearing diapers for a long time when I can afford them. And that's also something I'm going to bring up. I'm also looking for some ways that I can get diapers so I can wear them for a whole month without it costing me like $400 to $700. Which I cannot afford on government benefits. Does anyone have any tips or advice or anything? I talked to my therapist and I'm probably going to talk to her again about it. There was a bit of a misunderstanding she thought I wanted to quit wearing diapers. So yeah just wondering if anyone has any advice?

I wouldn't talk to a phsyician or medical professional until you have a note from your therapist about it and getting the go ahead there. Others have talked to professional. I don't know of anyone who has actually succeeded in getting anything done.

[Over The Top Leaks]

6 hours ago, BabyStevie26 said:

I've tried folding the front of the diaper inward, but it doesn't really stay in place overnight. Different positions help but I am for doing it while laying on my stomach (my normal sleeping position).

 

The best way I have found to keep this is place is do the first tape, fold the front and then do the second. Also some sort of compression at night is nearly a must. 8+ hours of no adjusting and things are bound to move around and get loose

 

[Talc Diaper Powder]

25 minutes ago, tuffy said:

That study isn't conclusive and only dealt with ovarian cancer. Many other people contracted mesothelioma.

We'll never know why they changed the scent, short of asking someone that worked in their lab. Perhaps the corn starch altered the overall scent and they didn't try to fix it.

 

Because it isn't a chemical reason, I now would guess they did it as a branding one. If the smell was the same worh corn starch powder some people would assume it wa the same. Easier to make a clean break with new scent/new formula than old scent/new formula. 

[Talc Diaper Powder]

14 hours ago, tuffy said:

They switched to corn starch because their talc mines were contaminated with asbestos. They had known it since the early 1970s and kept selling it. Eventually, the news started leaking out. Find out more here.

 

I know why they switched away from talc. I wonder why they switched away from that scent though.

[Talc Diaper Powder]

I am curious if anyone knows about the chemistry of the old talc Johnson's Diaper Powder. Was there something inherent to the talc that generated the scent? Is that why they abandoned it when they moved to corn starch? I recently bought some "International" version on amazon that has the original scent. It is incredibly expensive per ounce/gram but has that super nostalgic scent. I like the new lavender scent but man do I miss the unmistakably babyish scent of the old stuff.

[What new pajamas should I get?]

I don't know about availability but I recently bought some from Tykables that I adore. I don't know how cold it gets there but their footed sleepers are a decent cotton.

[Kittypaloza]

Friend of mine has a cat named Kitty Purry

[Kinky Granny]

Do you think the seller kept the gimp for themselves?

[I wet the bed last night]

I didn't pee, but I left a water bottle on top of my waterproof pad and apparently didn't tighten the cap all the way. It was wet ALL over. Definitely glad my bed is protected and could throw the pad to dry va sleeping in a wet bed!

[Do younger DLs like plastic-backed diapers?]

2 hours ago, messyman said:

Are there any decent cloth backed adult diapers? All of the ones I have tried stretch so much they fall off if you are not lieing in bed and most of them let pee soak through the "cloth" and start to smell as soon as they are wet?

 

There are two that I have tried that I like. The ABU Alphagatorz/Little Kings are good and the cloth backing is amazing. And the Tyakables Animooz are fantastic. Soft feel while maintaining all the good things in plastic backed diapers