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wow.....been there, got the tee shirt. I have been suffered clinical depression since puberty...just didnt know what it was called. 10 years ago went to doc and the diagnosis was made...so then started venlafaxine.......and all my problems started. whilst up until then I was a DL it then became all too real....I suffered urine rention and had to start self cath....hated it then moved on to indwelling cath...finally the connection was made with the meds!!!!....I then had 8 weeks of cold turkey and I am now on citalipream because the rate of retention is suppose to be lower...is it heck!!....so now I have a super pubic cath...all because of anti depressants. And when I get an infection...jesus......the spasms which lead to contant wetting with no warning mean 24/7 for a week or so.....so anti depressants have some serious dside effects. What would happen if I stopped taking them...I wouldnt be here writing!!!....so I have to put up with the side effects until they grind me down to such an extent that the shrink team has to take over. Hopefully the episodes between will get longer...I live in hope. Sorry if I have run on a bit.....just telling it like it is

well...just a short update on things.......and answering another question at the same time. Its been a week since I had my super pubic cath inserted...wow strange to say at least!!!...but I now have the facility to pee normally ..........drain at night ...and use the valve when I go into rention. Cant say it has been easy...still wetting ..well sometimes......went into hospital wearing a tena nappy even down onto the table ...woke up shaved and with nappy, but plus two caths. The staff nurse was going to put in a pad and net nix...yuk!!!!...so told her I had brought my own tenas...so no problem wore those....why you ask when I had two caths.....well when they took the penile one out I started wetting and all sorts....its calming down a bit now. One other thing...the bitch who took my cath out.....really hurt....other times they have been so very caring and gentle.....this had the wax op out off my ears!!!....they had fitted a size 16 when I can usual only take a 12...but that was done under a general........hope this helps xxx

Well thanks guys and gals!!!!!.......not what I expected.... wow...but thanks for the honesty. We all have our unique problems either by birth, medical or accident...briefly mine is drugs.......no no before you get the wrong idea...... My earlier posts will tell you I am a manic depressant.....so I have been on meds to resolve that issue .....stop me trying to top myself as it were...problem is the side effects have led to retention and other nerve damage..... The love/ dressing in nappies was a comfort ...a private space to feel small and away from the bad world when I was depressed......not a need....but its completly differant now the possibility is that it is for real......as I said ealier I have had SIC and indwelling....but the SIC was using a infant cath...10....and so was the indwelling size 10......but my body rejected the indwelling after 6 months....constant spasms and bleeding. The hospital has basically had me on a watch and see policy......now their latest idea to protect my kidneys is to have a pressure relieve valve.....no bag......just if I go into retention and I cant get the cath in I can at least open the valve in the super pubic.......HELP!!! was hoping this was going to be my salvation....seems more thought is required

Hi......havent been about lately, had some problems......but hay ho havent we all !!!! so here is my question having had SIC and indwelling I am now being lined up (excuse pun) for a superpubic.....unlike lots in here ......my problem is not wetting......... I cant pee, I suffer from retention. So what does the panel think about superpubic caths and will it lead to wetting problems since my bladder will relax I suppose. Answers on a post card please to the usual address, and if they good enough some of them will be posted for others to read....lol

again sarahjane I cant argue with you.....a good nurse or a good doctor are worth their weight in gold......but it only takes one to ruin it......howeverI have always written letters of thanks and graditude when apropriate...and by the same time I have written letters of complaint. The internet is a powerful weapon and sometimes ...well most of the time I/you know more a the specific problem than they do. I have had 6 consultants look at my case and in the end I found out myself ...all because each was looking at just there area only....gave me great pleasure in saying "blow it out ya ass fat boy".......it may also help that on a professional I am level or indeed higher in the rat race...also of and age when I can challenge their rudness or comments. At the end of the day you are paying their salary for the nurse or doctor and for the most part they can literally bury their mistakes.....we cant. As an off beat remark....in the Uk we have a national chain of butchers called dewhursts.....I often asked if they trained there of knew the "old boy" personaly. After tree rectual exams by 3 differant people in as many minuites I asked is this a form of masonic hand shake that I wasnt aware off and what lodge idid they belong too....that shut them up. As for nurses just ask that its the arsey one who gets to change your sheets or pan......brings them down with a bump too!! I know this has been off topic sarahjane.......seems we share alot in common with these numbties wherever they are xxx

sarahjane....what a sensible reply .....at last!!!!!.....I agree totally with everything you said. Indwelling caths are used all the time here in the uk...well in my experiance....and only fitted by a doctor....after a local gel...which is probably the worse part of it.......Yes you are right about infections also. And your final statememt is the most sensible......take your own.......there is nothing the staff havent seen before and providing you behave apropriately then respect should be a two way street. Nurses I have found are generally a kind and understanding bunch of people......and will go out of their way to help and accomodate most wishes where they can.

I must be loosing the plot here!!!!!.......who the hell wants to measure output by weighing a dirty diaper!!!!!....really must be a US thing. Most patients in the Uk are fitted with an indwelling cath.....then samples or output can be measured and tested ....thats on the wards where walking or mobility is an issue......but since my bladder is totally shagged ...but thats another story......the incon dept or ward I wear tena slips in hostiptal plus the cath ...and they prescribe them and issue them to me at my home...the reason I leak around the cath amongst other things like spasm I would think also there are some people how dont want to wear diapers.......I suppose one answer is ask and if you dont get what you want ...ask if it would be ok to bring in want to are used to

this must be a brit vs american thing........here in the old country we have catheters....and I can asure everybody they are not pleasant. That deals with that end as for the other ...well you just do it !!so to speak and the nurses clear it up. You only get diapers or nappies tena slip plus as an out patient. Reason for the catheters is to collect and measure samples and check liquid in and out. Now having a permanant cathether fitted because I was having to self catheterise up to 5 times a day.......my willy got sore!!!! now I get infections. I was a simple AB lover once, now its for real......so be care for what you wish for all you ABs and sympathy to all catheters sufferers.

hello dolly...its been a long time since I been here or even posted...but that is a differant story and for a differant time. So you want an idea,......well this is my dream dress.....its a pagent princess...and its to die for......sooooo girly and sooooo fem.....yet soooooo cute and babyish I will get it one day....and i hope all my girly friends enjoy looking at it

HAPPY BIRTHDAY........Lets all raise our and wish our birthdaygirl a wonderful day. Wow 39.......and still a strong and a real ........she never gets in a and always has time for every one. So lets all have a and give her lots of ....she is our Oh and here is a special from a nappy_pins

Ye Gods....no one has mentioned.....THEAKSTONS OLD PERCULAR......or even ADNAMS bitter or old.......geeesh but I can remember the days of taking a watneys party 4 or party 7 can and getting pissed on a whiff of the bar maids apron. Aye...you could take a lass out to the flicks and have fish and chip supper, apint and chinzano with lemonade (for her) and still have enough change for the bus fair home and still get an attampted at the laughter line....remember if you got passed her stocking tops you were laughing!!!!...........E they were the days......

sorry necare........I stole the usage from a great man.....and I suppose you woud need to an age and a brit to indentify with that one......Winston Churchill suffered terribly with depression......and he always refered to it as his black dog. This decease affects alot of people...and it has no respect of rank of file...nor rich of poor....history is littered withgreat people whos lives have been blighted by this lothsome compliant. But I see where you are comming from......and hang on in there with the rest of us

I love words.......although I have a terrible time writing them.....yet others can say it all....I know poetry is an aquired taste....but all music lyrics are poems really. From time to time I read a passage or verse or storey which captures exactly how I am feeling.....and this poem by Holland says it all for me......when I am depressed I read it lots ........somehow it is comforting......see what you think...... Death is nothing at all Death is nothing at all. I have only slipped away into the next room. I am I and you are you, whatever we were to each other, that we still are. Call me by my old familiar name, Speak to me in the easy way which you always used. Put no difference in your tone, wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow, laugh as we always laughed at the little jokes we enjoyed together. Pray smile, think of me, pray for me. Let my name be ever the household word that it always was. Let it be spoken without effort, without the trace of a shadow in it. Life means all that it ever meant, it is the same as it ever was. There is unbroken continuity, why should I be out of mind because I am out of sight? I am waiting for you somewhere very near just around the corner. All is well If anything.....for those who dont suffer from the black dog......for me that poem gives you an insight of how I long to be elsewhere ....where it is peaceful and quiet. pins

me again...sorry having a real bad time of it at the moment.....the black dog follows me everywhere....and for no reason. I am not looking for self pity....as all fellow suffers will know....I just find it really helpful to chat...and hiding behind my ID. I do have another specific question though....and I would welcome your thoughts and comments.....its all about MASLOW`S PYRAMID .....whilst I understand the basics.....I cant find anywhere about what if bits are missing....i.e....you dont fully have all the requirements for one level but say more on another....The obvious coment is....well it will crumble......ok if that is the case does that explain why I feel like shit all the time .....dont mean to be so deep on what I consider a fun and great group of people.....but I really could do with some input.......and dont say...go see the quack....I respect you guys too much...yhat is why I am asking you. I am really at a low point...wearing nappies at night cos I have to....with this self cath...but havent dressed up as AB since september 2005....what whith a mucked up prostate and gout and back pain all due to the depression pills.......the going to sleep forever option has positive attractions...no more pain or having to pretend to be happy and funny all the time....just peace...for me its a thought that is getting harder to resist. thanks for listening again...all my AB/DL friends

Excuse the pun......but I was in two minds!!!! ......about starting this as a thread....because I knew this was such a taumatic and terrible crippling desease. You guys have been so open about the terrible things that have haunted your lives.........so in a way I am glad I started this thread.......I hope it is helping those who have written and those who have read the posts.....I know it is helping me and I also know alot about and have a great respect those people who have contributed so far.........