Dirty Diaper/Maxipad Lover

After a good bit of digging by doing a forum search for "RearZ" and sifting through all six pages of results, I found nothing about insults via e-mail.

Getting orders that I've paid for has never been a problem with them though, diaperedandspanked, it's only getting in touch via their usual contact methods, which is why this was so baffling to me. (Aside from this issue my experience with them has been very positive.)

Okay, so I've tried using RearZ contact form a couple of times before and never actually gotten a response through it. When that didn't work, I followed their suggestion and sent them an e-mail only to never get a reply to that. I'm looking into ordering some of their custom printed diapers, and I want to make sure that they can work with the design I put together that has 3mm of bleed room around the edges. I obviously can't get an answer to this question (or tell them not to resize the image and to just chop off those 3mm as intended,) if they're never going to respond to attempts to contact them. While I've had no problems when placing an order and they definitely seem to have things together, I would like an answer to what I'm asking before I sink a small fortune into custom printed diapers. Also, if they're unable to receive my e

Well the three other cases would certainly raise the shipping price, LOL. $50 honestly isn't bad for international shipping over a 400 mile distance, which is why I was so surprised by the initial shipping cost being $120 when it seemed like it should have been half that. Oh well, mystery solved I guess.

Even though it's not the price of the diapers alone so much as the price of shipping that makes my wallet hurt, there are several good points here.

I was able to purchase exactly one case of RearZ once specifically because of how expensive their shipping to the US is. For the case to be shipped as a case, I seem to remember shipping costing me about $40US or so. I believe their was a less expensive shipping option to have all four packages shipped individually for a $20 dollar total, but I didn't want multiple packages showing up that I'd then have to make sure no one else around me saw. I really wish they'd expand and open up a US distribution center because they're the only adult diaper company that's ever really gotten my attention, and I'd probably try to buy from them again if they did.

Hmm... it seems to go haywire for me when I try to narrow that radius down to something more local (in a densely populated area at that,) so I'm not sure why I'm having an issue with the search function. As for the join date, I honestly don't necessarily think it's a good indicator of how active a member of the community is, as someone could join in 2006 and then not touch their profile again until 2016 while someone could join in 2015 and be very active in the little bit of time they've been on the site. On the other hand, the last sign in date tells me when someone was active most recently, and if I see it updating with relative frequency, that gives me a good idea that I'm probably looking at someone whose at least somewhat active within the community. I wouldn't mind having both, but I'd find the last sign in date much more useful than the join date. As far as profiles go, I understand why people are reluctant to fill them out on DD, because a lot of the members here are worried about "outing" themselves, and aren't even sure they're entirely comfortable with being an AB/DL yet, which I completely understand. On a site like Diapermates and ABDL Match though, a profile is much more important since the entire point of joining such a site is to try and meet other people looking for friends/relationships/hook-ups who share this interest, and not just to converse online. For that reason, I'm in complete agreement with you about being wary of empty profiles on that sort of site. The problem with sites like ABDL Match that use paid memberships is that aside from it being against their financial interests in you actually succeeding at meeting with someone, most "dating" sites built on this model use "digital cuties/hotties" or some variation of that term to encourage further use of the site. Unsurprisingly, these bots are usually the only ones whose profiles are actually filled out, which just makes separating out real people from bots even more difficult. (Yet another reason why Diapermates is a better alternative to ABDL Match, there are no "virtual ABs" on there to make you pay for premium features since the site is free and supported by ads instead of subscription-based.)

While I agree with you that DD obviously isn't a dating site, I was simply trying to point out why this message is likely to fall on many deaf ears. It's funny that you used a favorite TV show as an example of something you've never seen someone not want to share on here, because that's one of the first things that I wouldn't divulge to anyone other than the two people I've mentioned who I really trust and have "spoken" too outside of DD. I might share some things that I slightly enjoy on here, but nothing that I'm really into unless it's someone who I really trust and have gotten to know a bit.

Despite not being an AB myself, from the experience I've had with people looking for a "Mommy," there are really two groups that you can divide them into. The first is the group looking for a serious relationship that just doesn't know how to not be completely awkward or to start to ask someone out, and the group that's not looking for a long term relationship in the first place. The former group will heed your advice and the latter group just doesn't care. The people who are just looking for a Mommy aren't concerned with the 99 times they hear "no," they're just looking for the one person who will say "yes," and they know that statistically, if they ask enough people, eventually they're going to find that 1% looking for a quick thing with someone willing to be a "Mommy" who isn't engaged in paid services. Unfortunately for everyone else, that same group is likely to ask the same question of everyone who might even hint at being a "Mommy" just to see if they're the person who will say yes. You don't need to tell them how desperate they sound--they already know and just don't care. The first group you might get through to though, as they're more likely to find your advice useful. One other thing worth pointing out is that a lot of people aren't willing to reveal much about themselves on here, (and understandably so,) which makes it more difficult to find out whether or not you have anything in common with them beyond the obvious. There are maybe two people I've met on here who I really consider friends, and one of them only was on here briefly while the other is very much a DL. However, we got to know each other best outside of DD through much more private conversations than we could have on here.

I didn't mean to make you feel bad Diaperjake, and given the situation, I can certainly understand why you reacted the way that you did. I'd just like to think that under similar circumstances, I would be able to avoid something that could potentially lead to unnecessary punishment, especially for something that we've probably all feared being punished for at some point in our life. Likewise, I understand not being able to take the "I'm gonna let you off the hook" approach with your daughter having been the one to catch the guest, and with the previous situation with her other friend. I can't imagine how difficult it must be for you as a parent when presented with something unexpected like the marker tattoo, but I can assure you that you're probably right about it being something completely innocent.

Honestly, any so-called "dating" site that wants your money is probably a scam or at the very least, shady and trying to keep you as a member to run up their profits. Dating sites that have some "glitter gold" premium features as fluff are one thing, but anything that breaks the functionality of the site without a paid membership is likely a rip-off. If you can't sell banner ads to pay for your dating site's bandwidth to keep the site free, you need to rethink your business model. I would never use a site like ABDLMatch when free alternatives like Diapermates and Craigslist exist as ways to find people to meet with locally. Actually, there are two things that I think would make Diapermates a lot more useful. The first is a general location requirement so that even if someone just puts a state and county in the US, I have a general idea that they might be near me. (More specific locations could still be optional.) The second is a "why are you here" field as a requirement so people just looking for friends don't get the wrong impression, people looking for actual relationships can find each other more efficiently, and people just looking to knock boots while diapered and go there separate ways can do their thing more efficiently. Right now something like a zip code or "city" search will reveal a bunch of people nowhere near the zip code or city search that I've performed, and even if I find someone who I might be interested in meeting, I have no way of knowing if they're looking for something remotely similar to what I'm looking for, or if they want something completely different. I realize the need for some level of anonymity, but when a site is meant to connect people in person, there should be some additional requirements to prove that the person you're thinking of contacting is an actual person, or at the very least, is looking for something similar, even if it's just something pretty platonic like spending a day in diapers and hanging out playing video games. I already think Diapermates is much better than ABDL Match or any other paysite, but those slight alterations would make me wonder why anyone would consider an alternative, at least within the US, especially since Mikey runs Diapermates and I trust him to handle sensitive data responsibly.

Oh believe me Bettypooh, you're preaching to the choir on this, and I'm in complete agreement with you. Unfortunately, sometimes a little pandering is required to get stupid people to do the right thing, and I'd rather make baby steps (no pun intended) towards general social acceptance than do nothing at all.

I'm with Bettypooh on this one. If your friend asks why you were Googling what happened, just tell him that you wanted to see if anyone else had gone through a similar situation as your friend. (Obviously we know the answer, but he doesn't need to know that.) Anyone suggesting that this just be swept under the rug is only contributing to the perpetual loop of what we've all had to suffer through when there's no reason to continue it. If this kid has taken diapers in the past on several occasions, he definitely has DL tendencies, and will likely be a closet DL who spends a good portion of his life ashamed of himself, and who inevitably winds up sneaking onto sites like this as a teenager lurker in a few years, while hopefully being one of the people who registers and joins that really long list of "guest members" who aren't supposed to be here. The sooner parents realize what they're dealing with, the sooner we can put an end to the closet DLs and this wheel of shame that comes with them. I know I'd never want to be in the situation that you were in Diaperjake, on one hand I think you did the right thing by telling the kids father, because he does deserve to know what his kid is doing. On the other hand, I feel like by telling the kids father, you may have subjected this kid to some level of unnecessary punishment, while knowing that what he's done is mostly harmless, save for the missing diaper, which you've admitted you don't really care about. Part of me thinks that I might have done an "I'm going to let you off with a warning this time, but if I catch you taking a diaper again, I'm going to tell your father," since you know what was likely going on here. At the same time, I feel like a better informed parent could head off potential problems that arise from kids who are closeted DLs, including the occasional "diaper kleptomaniac" that lifts diapers because as a kid, he/she can't afford them, and has no other way to get them. A parent who knows what he's dealing with can at least buy them and dole them out as a reward for good grades and prevent this kind of situation. (The parent who knows why their kid is taking diapers can prevent them from doing so, unlike the parent taking shots in the dark just regurgitating the same failed speech that didn't work the first time.) Obviously you can't deal with this situation directly, but if you can find the right Google results for your friend, that could be helpful to him in the future when this happens again.

I really don't see a problem with the idea of an advocacy group, and would definitely be in favor of it. Details would have to be worked out, and there would obviously need to be a decent amount of thought put into this, but I think the concept as a whole is worth pursuing, regardless of whether or not some of the initial examples aren't. Advocacy groups basically exist for lobbying purposes, and the way you get things to your advantage is to have some sort of advocacy/lobbying group on your side, so it definitely wouldn't hurt for us to have one.

Cloth-like disposable baby diapers never leak because there's a plastic backsheet under the cloth-like cover. Dissect a pair of Huggies, Huggies Pull-Ups, or GoodNites, and you'll find that the cloth-like outer cover is glued to a thin plastic backing on all similar KCWW products. Do the same thing for Pampers, Pampers Easy Ups, Pampers UnderJams and Luvs, and you'll find that all P&G products are also like this. To the best of my knowledge, this is true for all baby diapers. Now dissect a pair of Depend--another KCWW product--and you'll find that the thin plastic backing has been omitted, despite being included on GoodNites and everything smaller. Depend obviously isn't known for absorbancy, so grab another brand and repeat this process and you'll notice the same thing, that thin plastic backing isn't included in cloth-like adult diapers, so they don't work like cloth-like or plastic-backed baby diapers. The reason the problem doesn't happen with baby diapers is that baby diapers still have some type of plastic barrier in them in cloth-like form while adult diapers don't.

For TEOTWAWKI, no I'm not going to bother with prepping since any good plan will be out the window the second the SHTF. For a small service disruption, I'm prepared regularly, and well in advance of the idiots who make the last-minute mad rush to the stores. There was a blizzard here a couple of weeks ago. My family's shopping was done well in advance, I bought a new shovel over the summer to go with the four or five other shovels that I have, (one is falling apart, but I use it in places where a damaged shovel is a bit of a virtue,) but I did that when it was air conditioning weather, not the day before snowfall, and the snow thrower was tested a week before the storm and gassed up at that time as well. I rarely lose power, (didn't even lose it for more than 30 minutes during Sandy,) but if I do, I've got batteries and battery powered radios for any emergency announcements, and I wouldn't even need those until several other devices drained their battery power, which would give the utility company plenty of time to re-establish power. If any situation were dire enough for me to require a temporary bug-out bag, it would not take long to throw one together and get out until sanity was restored, but in the unlikely event that a riot were to break out nearby, it wouldn't spread to this area until well after I'd had a chance to pack not just a bug-out bag, but the kitchen sink as well. If being prepared for temporary service disruptions makes me a "prepper," than I echo Baby Brian's comments above. However, there's no way I'm prepping for TEOTWAWKI, largely for the reasons Bettypooh has pointed out. (It's better to stick with the people maintaining civilization for as long as possible in such a scenario.) Granted, part of me wouldn't mind having a fallout shelter, not because I think TEOTWAWKI is coming, but because I'd just like a bunker to get away from the more crazy people in my life from time to time.

Honestly, this one is really simple, even if you live with your parents. Either go to the store late at night or early in the morning at an odd hour when none of your family is awake, buy your diapers like they're anything else, check out, pay, and go home. If you're worried about a parent/friend walking into the same store, go a town or two over and buy from a store in that area where you're not going to bump into someone that you know accidentally. (I've come close to bumping into people I know on a couple of occasions, but only one where it would have been disastrous as I nearly bumped into my mother, and I subsequently took precautions to ensure such a situation never occurred again.) Mail orders can be tricky, and while I order stuff all the time, anything as large as a case of diapers is going to raise questions, so the few times I've ordered AB/DL diapers, I've been extremely cautious about making sure that I'm "guarding" the door to get them before someone else does. As far as store employees and other customers go, they honestly could not give less of a shit about you buying diapers if they even notice that you exist at all. The cashier/shift supervisor working the checkout line has 50 other things taking up his/her thoughts and your purchase isn't one of them unless you specifically draw attention to it. My girlfriend works at a chain pharmacy and she's seen everything that you'd expect. Most customers aren't memorable, the ones she tells me about are the ones who are, and buying diapers doesn't make the cut for the level of weird to be memorable. You have to be like the guy who specifically asked her to help him pick out condoms, implying that he needed a Trojan Magnum even after he was told where to find them in a terrible attempt to hit on my girlfriend. Or like the old guy who gave her his number, or a regular customer whose a pain in the ass about every purchase to the point where the entire store staff dreads you coming through the door. If you're buying diapers, you're not going to meet that threshold. Out of all the times that I've bought diapers in a retail store, I've only had one comment from an older woman who had a very prominent package of adult diapers at the top of her cart. "You've got small ones and I've got large ones," was what she said after seeing me with a package of GoodNites as we waited for the cashiers to finish with the people in front of us, and we both chuckled at the statement, paid for our stuff, and left. It was nothing embarrassing, and if someone asked me something like "are those for you" after seeing diapers of any kind in my hand, my response would probably be "if I want dry sheets tonight they are," or something to that effect, as no one needs to know why I'm using them who isn't already aware.

Just in case there was still any confusion, baby diapers (Huggies) were first, adult diapers only followed years later when the technology for the change became feasible. As for what lead to the change to cloth-like covers, it was part sales pitch, part economics, and part demand. (Yes, there was demand for them.) The pitch: Cloth-like covers were quieter/more discreet than crinkly plastic-backed diapers, because of this, they felt more like cloth diapers without the mess and maintenance of cloth or the hassle of the pins. There were also claims that these new diapers would decompose more quickly in modern landfills, (not entirely false because extremely biodegradable SAP was introduced at the same time, but not entirely true either since the cloth-like cover had nothing to do with the eco-friendly change,) and envro-nuts who didn't want to fold or clean cloth diapers ate this pitch up. The change in texture was also welcomed as a lot of the people having babies at the time were born in the 70's, and remembered their parents using cloth, or changing a sibling using cloth, and preferred that texture to the slick plastic associated with disposables of the era. The pitch worked because people wanted disposables that felt like cloth and were a bit more eco-friendly, but not the hassle of cloth or the associated laundry. For anyone still dissatisfied the "breathable" cover allowed for thinner diapers, which caused baby clothes to stretch less from full diapers, and was supposed to allow for more absorbency while reducing diaper rash, which it also did to an extent. The economics: Traditional plastic backed diapers cost a small fortune to produce, mostly because of the cost of the plastic, but they also cost a small fortune to ship and stock shelves with. Plastic diapers couldn't be compressed for shipping without the risk of being punctured, so there were fewer per package, and KCWW was paying to basically ship air to store shelves, which obviously isn't a great business decision. Parents didn't like pin-hole leaks in diapers, and didn't like paying crazy prices for an insanely bulky item, so when they got several more diapers to a package of cloth-like covered disposables that could be compressed, they naturally had a huge incentive to give them a shot. Keep in mind that the economy in 1993 was just starting to recover when the change was made, and that anything to reduce the cost of diapers was a big plus for new parents. All cloth-like baby diapers have a plastic sheet in them for the purpose of absorbancy, and it does work, despite being incredibly thin. (Adult diapers usually omit this is which is why the cloth-like ones usually suck when it comes to absorbancy. Some AB/DL brands may be an exception to the rule though.) Initially, cloth-like diapers just covered a pretty decent quality plastic backsheet with cloth-like material, and the difference in absorbancy wasn't even noticeable. If you've ever held size 6 Huggies from 1998, you'll know what I mean, Earlier versions before size 6 had even thicker plastic backing under the cloth-like cover, but the difference isn't too noticeable. Over the years that plastic has gotten consistently thinner though, and now we have diapers that are terrible at actually being absorbent despite several more being in a package. The demand: Diapers were frequently cited as the most common item in landfills in the early 90's and treated like an environmental crisis because of how long it took for them to decompose. The AGM that would be replaced by SAP was the cause of this though, but uninformed envro-nuts and paranoid parents who grew up with cloth just assumed it had to be that evil plastic that was the problem. The envro-nuts went with cloth, (ironically washing it with equipment likely powered by far more toxic coal-fired plants,) and KCWW knew they could put a cloth-like cover on their disposables for the sane parents who wanted the feeling of cloth and send sales through the roof. That's exactly what happened, and by the end of the decade most parents wouldn't buy a plastic-backed diaper because it was associated with something that was "cheap" (in both senses of the word since a lot of store brands still used plastic) and had that "evil plastic cover" unlike the cloth-like covered Huggies. The end result was Huggies outselling Pampers and Luvs, and P&G ultimately following KCWW's lead in the switch to cloth-like covers. I'm actually kind of surprised that there hasn't been a switch back to plastic-backed diapers in recent years. The people buying them now are millennials born in the 80's who grew up mostly with plastic-backed diapers, and who've managed to bring back Vinyl LPs and other old technologies. They have the same magic box in front of them as everyone reading this and are typically very demanding, so I'd think there would be more of an interest in the supposedly superior-quality plastic backed diapers from a good number them. KCWW has those gender-specific Huggies Little Movers Diaper pants at Target, (and I can only hope they become a standard thing again,) and I was pleasantly surprised to see gender-specific diapers again, so maybe plastic-backed could make a comeback at some point if anyone would give it a chance or enough people would realize that it has some advantages. This shouldn't be a difficult thing to sell, especially in a world where diaper recycling and diaper compost is possible, and the environmental impact issue is easily dealt with. As for adult diapers, the cloth-like ones need to incorporate that plastic sheet that the baby diapers still use if they're ever going to be known as anything other than pure crap. The reason the baby diapers work is because the cloth-like cover is covering plastic, while the adult diapers don't have that making them mostly ornamental instead of functional.

True, I remember that message too, but at the time it was first posted I believe hosting costs were mentioned as well. The first part of the message is likely a reference to the amount of pirated content that was on the site, because I seem to remember there also being a line about thanking the people who "actually attempted to create original content" shortly after the one about the vision for the site not going as planned.