fairfaxdl

Since I'm a 24/7 DL who wets, I sleep wearing a diaper. A think nightime cloth diaper and plastic pants. I sleep the entire night through (except when I have to work late like now) and wake up very rested and completed soaked. I don't usually have any leaks but if I do the are small and not a problem. Disposables just don't work. They always leak and leak bad. A proper weight cloth diaper, worn properly with plastic pants that fit and are worn right work very well. It took awhile but I'm very comfortable at night.

You just need to relax and work up to it. Try smaller muscle movements until you don't reflexitivly clench up. This is one reason why I recommend that you never try to hold it. Your body needs to "unlearn" its reflexive action and it takes practice. If you are not committed to 24/7 yet, I suggest that you practice wetting when doing other activities. You don't need a diaper to slightly wet yourself dependig on what you are wearing. If you have to pee and you happen to be walking, try relaxing and letting a very small bit out. Try it a couple of more times depending on what you are wearing. You may be suprised how much underwear will absorb without it showing through to your pants.

When your wife and moher-in-law make you a diaper shaped cake celebrating your first full year of 24/7. I've already said that I do not want a diaper cake this year.

It just takes practice. Your body just wants to hold on and you need to untrain it. I only pee but I pee at any time, even walking and running. It just takes a while to unlearn those muscles. The only time I don't pee is when I have an erection. I hardly have sex and hardly ever get an erection these days so it isn't an issue. Though I did try viagra a couple of months ago. The erection was great but the moment it was gone, the flood gates opened.

Way too funny! That was the EXACT wording I was going to post! Cloth is the only way to go to save money over disposables.

Sorry, but I don’t fit this. Since this is an AB site, I don’t say much about it but I find any AB stuff very creepy and strange. When sex play gets involved there is no way it isn’t perverted and pedo-ish. That’s just my feelings about the issue. While I’m technically a DL, I’m not actually into the diapers as much as I am into wetting myself. I have to wear diapers to wet myself so I have to wear them. I don’t mean to be so blunt about my AB thoughts but I disagree with your assumption that all DLs really want to be ABs I don’t know why I like to wet myself but I do. That’s all I’m interested in when wearing diapers.

Those diapers have severe limitations. I can where them now because I pee a little but very often so they work for awhile. When I was just starting out, when my bladder would hold as usual, they would usually leak when I had a heavy stream. High quality disposables like Abena or Molicare are amazing. VERY comfortable and they work great. But you can't get them in any store. Only by Internet order. They are not cheap but they are worth it. 99.9% of the time I wear cloth diapers with plastic pants. This takes some getting used to. It isn’t easy to put any diaper on at first and cloth is even trickier. Do not try to pin on a thick adult diaper like you expect. It is hard to do it right. I still can't do it so I use Velcro tabbed or pull on diapers. But one good cloth diaper can cost $25 and up. (That’s for my size – Extra Large) Pull on cloth diapers can cost $50 or $60 each. Plastic pants run you about $15 per pant. It takes getting used to it but wearing cloth is great. Now this works well for me because I don’t mess in them. If that is your thing, then you should stick with disposables or laundry and storage will be a big problem. I can and do change my diapers at work or anywhere else I need to. It’s a hassle but I can manage ok. I can’t say why I like to do this. Its just something that I’ve always wanted to do and now that I am living the way I want, I’m less stressed and I’m much happier. People at work know I wear but they don’t know why. Some friends know that I like diapers and some have issues and some don’t. If anyone saw me in public they would have no idea I wore diapers. I wear in work clothes and in a suit. I know it is strange but if it is something that you like doing, then go ahead. I’m sure it will have its down side for sure. But that is your business. I will say this, if you really want to be “incontinent” the way I’ve become, you can’t do it part-time. You have to live as though you have no control at all and deal with whatever happens just as you would have to do if you really were incontinent. If you forget to change a diaper and go out somewhere and start to leak, what would you do? If you were truly incontinent, what COULD you do? One thing you could NOT do if you were incontinent is stop peeing. You can’t put you social scene ahead of your desire to be incontinent. If you do then you don’t really want it. If you want to do what I did let me know and I’ll give you as many pointers and tips as I can. I can’t describe how cool it was to wake up with a wet diaper after having wet in my sleep. At that point I knew I was really going to get there. Have fun!

I am effectively urinary incontinent after wearing and using diapers for well over a year now. All I did was relax and let myself pee as much as possible. Just as my “rules” say. The trick is to relax yourself so that you don’t “hold it.” Your body wants to do this naturally so you just have to re-train your body to pee very often until eventually it will do this naturally. That is where I’m at. It took about 6 or 8 months before I started bedwetting but it soon became normal. The key is you NEVER hold it. You must not “tighten up” those muscles for any reason. If you are not wearing a diaper or are naked, you must still allow yourself to pee. If you are really interesting in becoming incontinent, you will do that. I pee abut ever 10-20 minutes. Sometime more often and sometimes I leak and drip. In the morning, I no longer wake up with an erection and my diaper is always completely soaked. My condition may be reversible. I’m not sure because I’ve never tried to control myself since I started 24/7. If you want to be urinary incontinent, you need to start living like you are right this moment. Here’s my suggestion. At this exact moment, pee. I don’t care where you are or what you are wearing. Just pee and completely empty yourself. Handle things as though you suddenly found yourself incontinent and had to figure out what to do. But from this point on, you never hold it. You just pee. If you wake up in the morning, you do not get out of bed, you don’t even move. You just relax and pee at that moment. It may take a while to relax but you don’t do anything until you are completely empty and go on from there. If you wet the bed, deal with it. Seriously, if you were suddenly incontinent, what would you have to do anyway? What would your life be like? Well start living like that. Yes, it will cause problems with sex and other areas. It will cost money and be a great inconvenience but this is what you want anyway. I love it. I won’t ever go back. To do this right, you will need higher quality diapers like Abena or Molicare. If cost is an issue - and it will be, you will need to invest in cloth diaper and plastic pants. You will need at least 2 sets (A set being enough diapers for one day.) But with just 2 sets, you will have to do laundry every day. Best to have 3 or 4 sets. If you wear cloth or even disposable, you really can't change a diaper just becasue it is wet. You will have to change every 2 hours and that is VERY cost prohibitive. In good disposabels, (Abena or Molicare) you won't feel very wet. In cloth you will ALWAYS be wet. If you can afford it, you may use disposables in the day and cloth at night. I can't use a disposable at night without leaking. Cloth is best for nighttime use. But either way, it isn't easy wearing diapers 24/7. You have to be committed. GOOD LUCK. I wish I had the guts to wear a daiper in high school.

I used to like leaking. For awhile I would slowly wet my underwear to the point where it was soaked but my dark denim jeans would not show. When I started wearing 24/7 I liked the little leaks. But not anymore. Leaks still happen sometimes but I try to change right away when it happens.

If you plan on creating a history for your medical record, I would suggest seeing if you also try to see if you can get some sort of non-permanent solution at the same time. [this is completely unethical but…so is your entire idea] See your doctor with a wet nappy as planned to establish your problem. But a day or so latter, start having episodes where you can’t pee and you must have an emergency cath to relieve the pressure. Since you are in control, if it gets too hard to hold, you can always just let it go –especially while in the ER waiting room. If you do this a couple of times you could probably have them treat you with something like botox to prevent any retention. To add realism, you can have some “accidents” that come on without any warning. This creates a serious history with a need for immediate care. The good thing about is that it is virtually impossible to prove that it isn’t real. The seriousness of it may mean that you could get the botox or other treatment without any invasive or long bladder tests. You may even be able to get some form or more permanent surgery as needed. While this is unethical, it may be safer than going to Thailand and dealing with any health issues in a foreign country. But you may not have to go this far. If you were willing to pay 7000 Pounds to have it done, you could probably find someone who would do it in your country for a fee. There are a lot of doctors who will do pretty much anything and your though strange is not as strange as some requests.

Ok. Just remember, you asked for advice –even if you don’t want to hear it. GROW UP. If you want to live your own life move out and live your life. But being an adult means you have responsibilities like making money to pay your rent. It is obvious that you want to have freedom, and a life but without the responsibilities. Well, you can’t have that unless you are independently wealthy. So the solution to your “problem” is to grow up and move out. If you can’t afford to do everything in your life you want, you have to make a grown-up choice and pick what you want the most. Not all of my angst is directed against you. So many whinny 20 some-things want all the toys and the lifestyle of someone twice their age but without working for it. So many are living at home and using the “I can’t afford to move out” excuse. Bullshit. Stop getting all the toys like nice cars, I-Pods, cell-phone-of-the-week, video games and the all the drama. Move in with some roommate, get a crappy apt. But please just grow up. Maybe you have to get 2 jobs to make ends meet. Good. Do it. Work your ass off if you have to. Then you can EARN the right to live as you want. You may even realize that you don’t have money to play AB. This may come as a shock but eventually you will have to take care of yourself. Some people actually have to put off college until they have enough money or they really work for it. If you really wanted it bad enough, you would work for it. Do you want the freedom to live as you want enough to work for it? I’m 41 and fortunate enough to have a wife that doesn’t mind that I’m a DL. What do you think I would have to do if she didn’t like it?

I caught that too but stories of other DLs or ABs are not of much interest with me. If the subject of my diapers comes up again, I may or may not talk about it. I wasn't going to discuss things at Carrabbas's.

I'm finding out that not everyone is fine about this. I've noticed some odd looks and other behaviors like being excluded from invites for a while now and I didn't think anything of it. But I realize it is likely because the news is out and rumors are running wild. I don’t seem to have any problems with our core group of longtime friends. But others we know less do see to be keeping their distance. No jokes or snickers or anything yet. So nothing is out in the open. But more than a few guys I know have looked at me with odd smiles or have shaken their heads when I would pass by at the marine or hardware store. These are the same guys who would say “Hi” but now I just get the odd looks. It was easy to disregard but now I’m not so sure at all. I’m not mad at my mother-in-law or wife. The truth is the truth and I can’t be angry at anyone for telling the truth. My mother-in-law acknowledges that there are some who have a problem with it and can’t seem to understand there is no sexual or baby-play involved. (They probably have strange fetishes they don’t want out.) I’m not going to worry about it and if someone asks, I’ll tell the truth. BTW, this all came about the same way for both my wife and mother-in-law. People have noticed the change in me over the last 18 months. I’m much happier, less stressed, more relaxed and prone to laugher like never before. Some people just assumed I was on some sort of medication or having an affair with some young girl. My wife and her mother have never been repressed on the tough subjects like sexuality so they had no problem just blurting out “No, it’s because of the diapers.” (They really did say it like that.) As you can imagine, a comment like that would raise all sorts of questions. I’m more amazed that it has taken me this long to realize that people know about it. (Note: My wife and her mother are not repressed at all. Remember, her mother lived nude at a commune for nearly 2 years in the late ‘60s or early 70s. After hearing my wife discuss my foreplay activities in graphic detail in front of a group of women and her mother, I am just not surprised by them anymore.)

The whole family already knew. They are friends with my mother-in-law and she spilled the beans when the mother and daughters were out with my mother-in-law, wife and other girl friends were having a "girls night" about 2 months ago. Both daughters have kids of thier own, 1 is just over a year old, the other is about 8 moths or so. The 24yo is recently divorced and the 20yo (I was wrong, she is 20.) has the younger child. With 2 babies and 4 women at the table, the conversation was mostly about babies. From what I understand, they know the full story. But I think my mother-in-law also wanted it known that I'm not too much of a kook and not acting like a baby or anything. That it is more of a diaper/wetting thing. The 20yo continued to ask me all sorts of diaper and diaper wearing questions. She wants to use "green" cloth diapers but her mother who cares for the child during the day, will only use simple dispoables. It was not a converstaion I'm used to having.

I’m still wearing 24/7 and wetting my diapers. Some new developments to report. My wife and I were out at a restaurant on Friday with some family friends. They are great people, early 50’s with 4 kids from about 30 to 19. We were with the couple and their 2 younger daughters and one their kids. We were all laughing and talking mostly about the kids. Someone said something I didn’t catch and the older daughter said something like “well at least you like to wear diapers!” I was stunned. I said a very blank “What?” and she said, “Don’t you wear diapers all the time and wet in them?” Before I could say anything, her mother, said, “Yes, haven’t you been wearing for so long that you have to use them now?” I was quite floored so I just said, where did you hear that? The mother and daughter looked and each other and said that [my mother in law] told them a while ago. There wasn’t anything I could say so I just said, “yes, that’s true. I’ve been wearing diapers for about 18 months and it something I like.” The conversation wasn’t “too” weird but it was a tad strange. No body seemed to have a problem with it. Even the 19yo didn’t think it was too strange. She said that she had someone on her floor in college who liked to wear diapers. My wife was no help at all. She was laughing all the time and couldn’t contain herself. They were surprised that I was wearing at the restaurant. But I explained that I really do wear all the times. It turns out that my mother-in-law has told some of her and our friends that I like wearing diapers and that I now have to wear them because I can’t control my bladder anymore but that I still enjoy it. But that’s not all. Even my wife has admitted that she has also confided in others that I like to wear diapers and she doesn’t mind. Sometimes life is too funny. After I got over the initial shock of them knowing, I didn’t mind them knowing the full story. It is what I am. Now I’m not about to come out in the open but somehow it does help that our friends know the truth. I’ll have to see if it changes things or not.

I'm still wearing 24/7. Just got tired of the board. Seems to be lots of the same stuff or I just lost interest in talking about diapers and wetting myself. I still wear diapers 24/7 and wet myself all the time without any thought. I'm happy and my wife is still ok with it. Wearing diapers just seems like a normal part of my life and who I am. Not much else to say. Have fun everyone!

Bying cheap store brands or Depends diapers is not a good way to go. They don't fit well and are not very comfortable. To really feel good, buy some Abena or Molicare diapers or better yet, real cloth diapers. Whatever you buy, learn to wear them correctly to get the most enjoyment out of them. Most people do not know how to properly put on a diaper. It takes practice to do it right. But worn correctly, a diaper is very comfortable and very comforting. Once you've tried a high quality, properly worn diaper, you will know what I mean.

I would hold off on the doctor part until you begin to have limited functionality. Give it 10 to 12 months to settle in. Eventually, you'll be able to have a sonogram and it will show your bladder not emptying and other issues. I have to run right now but I'll give you more details latter. BUT DON'T LET ANYTHING STOP YOU. JUST DO IT!! (24/7) FOLLOW MY RULES!!!!!!!

Do you plan to "go all the way" in them or just wet? If you can only do store brand diapers, I would suggest Depends adjustable briefs and Pampers Cruisers size 6 as stuffers. Make sure you pee a lot, do NOT hold it or you will have leaks. To really do it right, I would suggest you mail order the highest absorbency Abena diapers you can get. That way you can have a flood and not worry too much about about leaks. (Assuming you know how to put them on properly.) It it fun to wear diapers around people all day. I still get a kick out of it. Most dispsoables, except the very, very cheap ones, are not noisy enought to be heard in an office environment. I had so much fun wearing around others when I started! have a great time!!!!

About 2 weeks ago, I saw a woman in her late forties or early 50's wearing a diaper in Whole Foods. I saw her again a few days latter in Starbucks. She was wearing pants like a jogging suit or sweat pants and a blouse. I never saw the actual diaper but I could tell she was wearing one. The outling and buldging was unmistakable for another diaper wearer to miss. I'm pretty sure it was a higher end adult disposable. In other words, not a Depends. She was also wearing a medialert braclet so I wouldn't assume she was an DL.

I’m certainly not an old timer but I don’t post as often as I used to. I check the site nearly every day. But I don’t even take the time to sign in. I just check it as a guest. I don’t post much because there isn’t much to say. The overall conversation seems to be stale. Nothing has changed with me. Its been over 1 year as a 24/7 diaper wearer/user and there isn’t much new to tell. I’m pretty much settled in to things and I know that I’ll be wearing all my life. My mother-in-law and wife support my decision even if they think it strange. There isn’t even anything to get irked on this site. Every couple of months or so, there is always some AB/DL who “suddenly” has found themselves in a situation were they are incontinence or must wear a diaper and they are “so” shocked and don’t know what to do, etc. The originality is even humorous sometimes. I’m not into the AB scene so I can’t really connect to the ABs. As a DL, I’m rather private about it. I’m not interesting in any “group” thing, getting changed or changing anyone. What do DLs talk about when they get together? There is only so much to discuss with diapers. I might be interested in helping a new DL out with tips, suggestions and support but I can’t see much else out there. To me its all incredibly personal so I don’t see much of a reason to post these days. What other milestones are there? I wear at work, I wear in public. I change all the time at work, in public restrooms. I’ve worn to my doctor’s office. I showed my diapers to my therapist. My body has relaxed to the point where I have no urinary control. I’m where I want to be. I’m happy. About the only thing I haven’t done is publicly announced my DL side. And as long as I have to make money, I don’t think I’ll do that. Being an AB and/or DL isn’t easy. There’s cost, convenience, comfort, hygiene, odor, and social stigma to deal with. I often wonder how many people who claim they are full time AB/DLs really are. Not that there is anything wrong in having a fantasy life. I see very few posts about the practical issues of diaper wearing. Sure, there are the posts about “rashes” but they usually lack specifics and I wonder if most are more fantasy. As I said, being a real DL isn’t easy. It also isn’t easy being in a relationship with a non AB/DL. And all the stories about “hiding” being an AB/DL, I have to laugh. Its one thing to hide a few disposable diapers. Its quite another to hide a real supply of any type of diaper AND the USED diapers. And diapers of any type are not cheap. But that’s all ok. I do like to see what is going on. It’s just that there is little to talk to. Plus I think that online chats have replaced the boards.

I get turned on when I see horse genitalia. Mostly male horses but also a little by female horses. I really get a turn on when I see a horse ejaculate or drip. I've fantasized about performing oral on a horse but thats all it is. Its only male horses that do this. No othe types of males. But I do like to see photos of male horses, female horses and horse sex.

I think the main thing is that for the people in the group, it IS a support group. not a singles meeting. They are there to cope with a problem. Hooking up with someone is probably not why they are there. BTW, would their be many mixed incontinent groups? Seems to me that most women or men would not want to discuss such a thing with a member of the opposite set. I would imagine that for some men, it is rather emasculating. Why not put a personal ad in the paper or on a website? "Great Guy looking for girl who is into diapers." You may get some good response if you word it right.

What I’m wondering is how I fit in to things. I used to think I was just someone who liked to wet myself. I liked wearing diapers because I could more easily wet myself. Even though I had been wetting myself for many years, one day just decided to just “always wet myself.” To do this I started to wear diapers all the time. I’ve posted about what I did and why. As of now, I am practically urinary incontinent. It truly is what I’ve wanted. But this post isn’t about “becoming incontinent”. What took me so long to realize was that I was already incontinent and had been all my life. Not that I had no physical control, but that I had no SELF control. The end result was the same, I would wet myself. What I’m getting at is something that I realized by discussing this with my wife, mother-in-law and even a couple of sessions with someone who thought they were a therapist. Its not a physical issue that I wet myself. It is an emotional issue or compulsion that just requires it. Its not something that I can stop nor have stopped. Even I didn’t realize that it was something I did every single day until I really looked at it. I have been making myself wet myself on purpose and its not something I want to or can stop. I know its different and strange but it just is. Only now that I’ve been living this life for over a year can I see how much I didn’t want to live the way I was. I never wanted to hold it or have control. I didn’t like it. Now I don’t anymore, I’m happy, I get more done. Life is fun. So, I think that incontinence doesn’t have to be a physical condition. It can be an emotional or mental issue as well. I have emotional urinary incontinence, which may also be or become physical incontinence. But I’m incontinent just the same. The main difference is that I like and want to be this way.

I read the original post and have to reply to a part of it. Ok, the guy was dressed as an AB, why is that automatically a sexual issue? This is the one facet of AB or DL that I just don’t get. Its completely non-sexual for me and I don’t understand why is automatically sexual or perverted for everyone else. If someone is wearing a diaper an adult baby clothes in public, my first thoughts would be: 1. Is it some sort of costume? 2. Is it some sort of prank or radio/college/etc stunt? 3. Does the person have a mental or developmental issue? 4. It the person wacko? To me diapers are not sexual in nature so I wouldn’t automatically assume it was perverted behavior. I’ve only ever seen one real AB. It was last summer in a WalMart. I was surprised but I immediately realized this guy was the real thing. He was obviously developmentally challenged. He was wearing pastel blue sweatpants and a loose t-shirt. He had an adult pacifier and was most certainly wearing cloth diapers and plastic pants. I could see the padding, plastic pants and there was some odor. He was probably in his early 20’s. His mother was in her late 30s-40s going on her 60s. She had all the usual accessories, well worn stuffed toys, blanket, baby bottles with formula in a very large diaper bag. He didn’t have the “puffy face” or dreamy look that some who are mentally disabled have so it was a bit strange. He was shorter than average without much muscle mass and no trace of facial hair so it may be a physical and mental developmental thing. But then again, if I saw an older guy wearing a diaper and dressed like a baby with a 5 O’clock shadow, maybe I would think he’s a perv too. Diapers are underwear and unless you are a member of the Red Hot Chile Peppers, you can’t go around in your underwear.