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    Thiazides - Will They Help?

    in Incontinent-Desires

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    Thanks for the thoughts guys! I’m really enjoying the medication so far. It’s not crazy but it does seem like it’s giving me a slight bump. 
     

    Also, to make clear: please, if you don’t need this medicine, don’t take it. Not a silver bullet for me so far and the potential downsides probably outweigh peeing slightly more frequently. 

    Retrospectives?

    in Incontinent-Desires

    Posted

    Just thinking through this as I’m moving closer to dependence and wearing more than not.

    Becoming incontinent - did you get what you wanted? Was it worth it? Did it fill that hole so many of us describe or did it just become normalized and now you’ve found a new hole?

    I hope I’m not coming off as cynical, just legitimately curious of your opinions looking back now. 

    Storing poop

    in Stinky, Squishy & Proud

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    There is a Whang! video about a wife who stumbled upon her husband’s “pickled” poo. Apparently sorted by viscosity. Not sure if this would limit bacteria as I think usually the goal and hope is that what you’re pickling would be bacteria-free. it’s an idea any way?

    Pretty gross though lol. Keep us updated!

    Why is bowel temp IC so much easier than urinary?

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    On 10/22/2022 at 11:02 AM, dlmolicares said:

    I think I know the answer, but wanted to get some thoughts. Couple of things- this is referencing temporary IC only (for a session, afternoon, or day) and my frank preference is on the urinary side although I've explored both.

    Temporary IC is easy with the bowel due to the various products (enema / suppository) and even foods that can stimulate to the point of loss of control. Further, the sphincters are accessible so it's conceptually possible to mechanically create that state (speculum, digital stimulation etc) In short, true accidents can be created any time somebody wants to.

    For urinary, it seems to be a different deal. First, I haven't found a product that can stimulate the urinary tract to the point the body gives up control. Pounding water, diuretics (natural or medicinal) all up the production of urine but I've yet to have it overwhelm to the point of clear accidents. Second, the mechanical approach doesn't seem possible without something a lot more invasive (cath, stent, etc) My experience with urinary IC have all been pretty much holding until miserable (and back of mind concern of kidneys) until I let go because it is so uncomfortable (unlike bowel, where my body just gives up and I do lose control)

    I've heard / read so much, anything else short of cath/stent that can make it happen? Ideas include massaging certain areas, e-stim, meds of some kind? Anything else?

    As mentioned, not looking permanent but the same true loss of control as straight forward as a disposable enema would be an amazing experience.

    What are your thoughts and experiences?

     

    Any links on where you’ve read up on temporary fecal ic methods? I had never heard of these. 

    Accidents & PT Untraining

    in Incontinent-Desires

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    I was really happy to see all the responses here. A lot of good points and perspectives for sure!

    For me, I would like to be incontinent and diaper dependent but I’m kind of fresh to all this. Grew up constantly having a diaper fascination and made a few treks to the store to pick up packs as a teen but I’ve been out of diapers completely since around 18. Just had a lot of shame I suppose and spent a long time ultra-aware of others perceptions and trying to live up to self-imposed standards. And it’s been a grand total of maybe 3 months before I jumped back in.

    I’d like to start here and see if anything happens. I also think it’s kind of a good litmus test to see whether or not “I have what it takes.” I’ve noticed my interest waning quite a bit recently and the changes and upkeep are becoming more of a drag. But I’ve tried to reinforce against this with hypnosis and continued use.

    So, it’s going. No loss of control, really, but I’m trying to enjoy diapers for their intrinsic value and not focus so much on my own fixation on being incontinent. And really hoping that maybe, just maybe, I’ll notice some kind of progress along the way. 

    Messing more than once

    in Stinky, Squishy & Proud

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    On 9/23/2022 at 7:20 AM, rusty pins said:

    I can't speak for those who have stayed in a messy diaper for 24 hours or more, but in my case I may be in my diaper for up to 6 to 8 hours.  I can often get 8 hours out of wetting an un-boosted Betterdry diaper without leaks.  That is not filling it beyond it's capacity.  To answer your question, lets say I put my Betterdry on at 10am, mess it at 11am and change around 4 or 5pm.   That gives me 6 to 8 hours diapered, 4 to 5 hours of that being messy, but the diaper still has the capacity for me to totally wet it throughout the day.  The key is to first protect my skin with a barrier cream or ointment so the mess doesn't burn or irritate  sitting in it for several hours.  When urine mixes with feces it can cause a diaper rash much easier, so protecting the skin is critical.  Even with a barrier cream or ointment, sometimes I have messed my diaper and experience a burning sensation.  It could be caused by something I ate, but when that happens I will change diapers quickly once I feel any irritation.  With me, it's one thing to sit around for several hours enjoying a messy diaper, but when the mess gets uncomfortable or starts to irritate my skin, then it's time to change and clean up.

    As mentioned here, people who will stay in the same diaper 24 hours or even for days will do several things.  They double diaper and cut slits in their first diaper so urine will just flow into the outer diaper.  When they get wet enough, they will take off the wet outer diaper and tape on a fresh one over their already soaked and messy inner diaper and just keep doing that over and over, changing the outer diaper while remaining in the wet and messy inner diaper, sometimes for days.  Whatever floats their boat, but it's not something I would recommend.  Some who have done that have admitted in their posts to getting a really bad diaper rash that had to be treated by a doctor with antibiotics.  It's not worth it to put your life at risk.  I'd also hate to have to explain to my doctor how I got such a bad diaper rash that it would have to be treated with antibiotics.  At the very least he would think I don't clean, shower and practice good hygiene, and you can't fool a doctor!  He would know the only way to get such a severe rash would be if you sat around in your own urine and feces. 

    Wow. I must be doing something wrong with mine, I don’t average quite as much mileage. Interesting method with the slit cutting… and yeah, like you said, the thrill would probably not be worth the potential damage done. 

    Messing more than once

    in Stinky, Squishy & Proud

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    On 9/12/2022 at 9:28 AM, rusty pins said:

    Multiple diaper messes is OK but that really isn't as much of an issue as is the amount of time you stay in a messy diaper, no matter how many times you have pooped in it.  It's not really good to stay in a messy diaper for a really long time.  Some have posted stories where they stayed in a messy diaper for well over a day or two, adding to their mess each time they need to poop and have gotten rashes that have had to be treated by a doctor and with strong antibiotics. 

    Some people will change right away when they mess, others enjoy it for a while.  If you happen to be in a public place with people around, I'd say change right away so the stink won't offend anyone.  When I mess it's at home.  I plan ahead by using an ointment, Vaseline or barrier cream on my butt first before putting on a diaper.  I have spent 4 to 5 hours in a messy diaper, adding to it a time or two before changing and cleaning up, other times I've messed and within an hour I start to feel a slight burning, tingling or irritation.  That is when I will remove the messy diaper and clean up.  I do not want any rash or even slight irritation on my butt.  It also depends on what you eat.  Some foods can make your poop sting and irritate your skin a lot more than other foods you eat.  The condition of your skin and avoiding getting diaper rash is the key here, not how many times you mess in the same diaper.

    @rusty pins, in the instance you’ve described (4-5 hours messing) or those who have stayed in dips for days messing, how is this possible? Would you avoid urinating this entire time or find another outlet? It seems like filling beyond capacity and leaks would be inevitable. 

    Bed…messing?!

    in Stinky, Squishy & Proud

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    23 hours ago, rusty pins said:

    Clarify "Bed-Messing".  I'm hoping you mean messing in your diapers while in bed sleeping overnight as opposed to not wearing any diaper at all and just messing yourself in your bed getting your poop all over the sheets and mattress.  I ask because there are some people here who literally wet the bed.  No diapers and they love sleeping in pee soaked sheets and mattresses not even changing the sheets so they smell of stale dried pee night after night.

    That’s a good point, apologies for not making that distinction. Bed messing while fully protected is what I meant. And to be more specific, I guess I meant either completely unconsciously or semi-unconsciously. Just curious if that’s actually something that happens to folks around here and whether that’s a nice or a negative experience. 
     

    22 hours ago, fillemup said:

    I frequently mess my diaper while sleeping. Most of the time I wake up when the accident is starting to happen. Yesterday and today, I pooped my diaper in my sleep and didn’t wake up when it was happening. I have been working a lot lately and am extremely tired when I go to bed. I think that is why I am sleeping through my pooping accidents lately.

    Thanks for sharing! Would you say that this is an enjoyable experience for you at all or neutral/annoying/negative? I hope I’m not getting to personal. 

    Bed…messing?!

    in Stinky, Squishy & Proud

    Posted

    Sorry if you were looking for a story, don’t have one. Sometimes I just get stuck in random thoughts and they keep reoccurring, so hoping to get it out here.

    I’m just wondering - is bed messing on a somewhat regular basis a thing for any here (guessing this may be a given for bowel ic)? Is it a good experience or bad? Any stories you’d care to share?

    Going 24/7 around my parents

    in Incontinent-Desires

    Posted

    Hi @Diaper Duck,

    I haven’t read all of the replies but I got the feeling the general advice might be to avoid keeping it a secret as it will be too hard to cover. I would agree except…

    I don’t think it’s entirely off the table. I did this off and on for many years as a teen at home. Obviously the 3 considerations (think I read this upthread a few days ago) would be purchase, storage, and disposal.

    Of course wearing undetected is another component. I think you could tackle that best by only wearing at specified times? Only while your parents are at work maybe? And maybe to bed at nights? @Beccathelittle had some interesting bits in her untraining thread where she said that she actually started with bed wetting training. While I think the majority have found bed wetting to follow day time incontinence efforts, maybe bed wetting would work for you to start? Might be fun to try. 

    Purchase - you can get North Shore and BetterDry products (maybe Tena or Attends?) from Northshore care and have them delivered to Walgreens or FedEx (this is an option at checkout). 

    Find a good hiding spot? Maybe you have a box for your belongings or a few boxes of old junk? Store at the bottom or find another solution? Your car?

    Disposal - suddenly become a very attentive son when it comes to trash duties? Take out daily or every other day or have a secret trash spot? That one gets a little tricky I guess. 

    But there is the ethical component -maybe some underlying guilt? I hope not. I guess when it comes to bodily functions it isn’t anyone’s business but your own. What I listed is also a lot of work…but maybe it’s worth it to you? Good luck!

    Plastic Backed Pull-Up

    in Diaper Lovers

    Posted

    Thanks for all the feedback! I might try the Bambino. Trying to look for something that I can use at the gym and some other random instances. So far a lot of the pull-ups I’ve tried are duds. The “cloth” just ruins them for me. 

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    Accidents & PT Untraining

    in Incontinent-Desires

    Posted

    So I was wondering if anyone has experience with untraining in the form of focusing on accidents and part time diapering. This has been the case for me as I wear while working from home 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. 
     

    I’m hoping to use this as a stepping stone to full incontinence. I’ve also been trying to visit the restroom every 30 mins to 1 hour when undiapered to support the untraining. Is this effective at all in your opinions or is it a waste? Been going for around 1 month pretty consistently though I do kind of suck at the schedule outside of diapers. Not many “gains” so far…
     

     

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