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Another positive vote here altho I do wish they weren't so stiff!

Just wanted to mention to Kevin and others that like the Tena Ultras.

I am sure glad I am not in the diaper business.

I just got a pair of the polyuruthane pants-Fetware calls them UltraFlex-- and also a pair of regular cloud vinyl ppants both with wrapped elastics. I like them both but note that the Fetware Ultraflex with wrapped elastics say that one ought to get size small for a 35-36 waist. Get the mediums not small! And they are noisy which may be why I am using the vinyl ones more often than the UltraFlex pants. And as someone mentioned, the elastics wear out before the material!! I have some five year old ones. Have fun! Variety is fun too!

I'm another fan of training pants. I use them with disposables and plastic pants during the day===no leaks. I have been using Comcos.

If you definately want the lined plastic pants, I also vote for the Kins product. Still I have found that the seperate pants and cloth liner---I use Comco trainers--- works best since the trainer dries lots faster than the lined plastic pants and they last lots longer. IE the cloth lasts longer than vinyl pants--even good vinyl pants. Still, you can use the liner of the combo pants when the plastic pant wears out---just cut them apart.

I have been shaving for at least 20 years. Never have had itching problems either. I like the look and feel on me and to see others that are smooth. I don't have any other body hair but that is due to mother nature.

I am another one that wears ppants or rubber pants over both cloth diaprs at nite and my disposables in the daytime. I usually wear a Comco brand cloth training pant over the disposable which absorbs leakage and is held in by the ppants or rubber pants. In addition to the pants being practical, I love the smoothness and the variety of colors that ppants come in. See Suprimas at B4Ns.com.

I am too big for Goodnites but have tried Luvs in Depends adult pullups and they work pretty well. I haven't tried pulling the adult pullup apart and inserting the baby diap inside it but think its worth a try.

As one of the old farts here who has been wearing Depend diapers since they were green with elastic waistbands, I would add that their availability and the fact that they are on sale at least half the time makes them attractive to me. I always use a soaker--Luvs size 6-- and still the cost when on sale comes to about $.75 for the Medium disposable and soaker. This is very attractive to this full timer. BTW, I was on the website recently and noted the official name of the disposable is Depend not Depends. Not that many care.

I am mostly a Suprima pants fan that B4NS sells in the States and Canada. They are made in Germany. The feel of the vinyl is super soft but tends to last a good while; they have many cuts and colors, with and without snaps and they have several models where the elastics are wrapped. This works well for me in preventing leaks at the legs and waist. Now if they just were a bit cheaper!!!! (Then I would buy more!) KINS also makes a pant with the wrapped elastics that is quite good.

It does seem that the days of cloth diapers and ppants are pretty much history even in the AB/DL world. I still prefer cloth and ppants for nitetime but admit that disposables are easier during the day. So I wear adult tape disposables like Depends or Wings with a baby disposable inside as a soaker and ppants like Gary, Suprima or Gary==no leaks and pretty low cost for full time wear.

I wear plastic pants all the time--over disposables in the daytime and over thick cloth diapers at night. Most folks have to try several brands before finding the pant that fits them the best. I use Suprima pants made in Germany and sold by B4NS (www.b4ns.com) in US and Canada. Most of their models have a wide waistband that rarely leaks and their plastic is super smooth. Also lots of colors and types. I buy them large to fit over my thick cloth diapers. I use Gary ppants in a smaller size over disposables-and training pants in the daytime. Angelfluff Diaper Company (www.angelfluff.com) sells these as their Whisper Pant and if you buy some cloth diapers, they offer the ppants for a very good price. Have fun experimenting!!!

Here's another vote for shaving. I am naturally smooth and I just like the look of being smooth the the pubic area too--both on me and on others. I was suprised to see an article in the local Denver paper recently about more men shaving the "groin" area as they put it. Gee what next? An article about more folks wearing adult diapers????

You may have a point but when one is age 6 and takes a disposable bought for your 3 year old brother, I don't think we have a theif in the making.