warpiper Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 As one of the biggest players in the lilshybaby saga, I felt it was up to me to let you know it was all a hoax. She claimed to me that she lost her internet a few weeks ago and came back on and found all this hate mail. I know that she has both a computer and a blackberry, so even if she lost one of those, she still would have been able to get e-mail. I found out that she was still alive by stalking her fetlife account and then waiting for her to update it. And she did. And i confronted her, and then she came online this morning and was all like, oh, "I had no idea. It wasn't me," implying that somebody had hacked her account. She went on to claim that the times she had previously updated her fetlife account in those last few weeks was when a friend of hers had visited her. Make of it what you will, but I can't talk to her anymore. -piper Link to comment
diapered_jeff48801 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I wonder why she felt the need to fake her own death, I guess it just boggles my mind. That and it's just sad. Link to comment
warpiper Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 I wonder why she felt the need to fake her own death, I guess it just boggles my mind. That and it's just sad. agreed. Link to comment
Codymoogle Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Ive been following this since it started, and I figured it was a lie. The whole thing sounded really fishy, so I'm not surprised. That said, I feel the need to give $0.01 of my $0.02 to both warpiper and lilshybaby: Warpiper: If you knew it was a hoax, WHY would you encourage this behavior? Instead of playing along (and pulling the heartstrings of all of the people that were worried for lilshybaby), you should have called her out on it once you knew it was a lie. Doing what you did is not right, and I really hope you don't get involved in this kind of crap again. However, I respect that you at least had the guts to admit that the whole thing was a lie, even though the revealing happened a LOT later than it should have. Lilshybaby: There are better ways to get attention. Faking your own death because of "hate mail" is NOT the right way to deal with the hate mail OR get positive attention. If you have hate mail, BLOCK the people that sent it to you and REPORT them if needed. As for getting positive attention...To be frank, this kind of behavior will result in the opposite of what you want. No one likes a liar...Especially someone that lies about something like this. ~ moogle Link to comment
belinda_sue_fox Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Old and obvious weeks ago speedy. Link to comment
Mama Melody Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Warpiper: If you knew it was a hoax, WHY would you encourage this behavior? Instead of playing along (and pulling the heartstrings of all of the people that were worried for lilshybaby), you should have called her out on it once you knew it was a lie. Doing what you did is not right, and I really hope you don't get involved in this kind of crap again. However, I respect that you at least had the guts to admit that the whole thing was a lie, even though the revealing happened a LOT later than it should have. ~ moogle Sounded to me like piper didn't know it was a hoax till just recently, and just coming out about it once things were sure. But I might be wrong on how I'm interpreting that. Link to comment
diaperedandspanked Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Kind of a dumb way to get attention. Link to comment
Santiago Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 But what kind of internet would this be if not for the drama we create? Link to comment
malus_infantia Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I'm credulous with you lot. I believe what you tell me about yourselves because there is more to be gained on both sides of a conversation if each participant acts in good faith. I fell for it. I make no apologies for falling for it. The words I wrote were written under the assumption that the matter itself was true. And it hurts that someone I had thought a friend would feel it is just as well to manipulate me and others who thought her a friend into feeling grief, despair, and helplessness. I'll continue to be credulous with you all. The actions of shy were not the actions of any other person, so moving to a place of assumed suspicion of the perfidy of others ultimately undermines the entire point of me being here. So, it sucks. It's awful. I'm fucked off and quite furious over it. Warpiper: If you knew it was a hoax, WHY would you encourage this behavior? Instead of playing along (and pulling the heartstrings of all of the people that were worried for lilshybaby), you should have called her out on it once you knew it was a lie. Doing what you did is not right, and I really hope you don't get involved in this kind of crap again. However, I respect that you at least had the guts to admit that the whole thing was a lie, even though the revealing happened a LOT later than it should have. I think that is a really unfair assessment of Piper. He was extremely close to Shy, and believed what was happening to her until very recently when he grew suspicious. When he said "Biggest Player" he did not mean "Biggest Conspirator". I suspect that he moreso than anyone would be the most likely to believe what was being reported to him due to their closeness. Generally, close friends will believe one another, especially in crisis situations (whether or not that crisis if genuine, or if it is confabulated by another). I find the notion that hoping he does not get caught up in this crap again a misplaced indictment on the degree of trust he puts into his friends. He did call her out on it as soon as he knew it was a lie. He did not call her out when he merely suspected it was a lie. Link to comment
Codymoogle Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Sounded to me like piper didn't know it was a hoax till just recently, and just coming out about it once things were sure. But I might be wrong on how I'm interpreting that. I think that is a really unfair assessment of Piper. He was extremely close to Shy, and believed what was happening to her until very recently when he grew suspicious. When he said "Biggest Player" he did not mean "Biggest Conspirator". I suspect that he moreso than anyone would be the most likely to believe what was being reported to him due to their closeness. Generally, close friends will believe one another, especially in crisis situations (whether or not that crisis if genuine, or if it is confabulated by another). I find the notion that hoping he does not get caught up in this crap again a misplaced indictment on the degree of trust he puts into his friends. He did call her out on it as soon as he knew it was a lie. He did not call her out when he merely suspected it was a lie. If that's the case (in both of the quoted messages), then I ask that warpiper please disregard the part of my message directed to him, with my apologies. ~ moogle Link to comment
warpiper Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 apology accepted. I had reasons to believe that it was true, mostly regarding medical knowledge that is beyond that of even practiced medical professionals and her ability to come up with reasons for all the bizarre things that were being done, that when i would think about it, i would be like, oh yeah, that would have to be that way. I was also skeptical, because I have never seen somebody come out of a coma that quickly, and honestly I should have known right then and there, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. You can ask some people close to me, they can attest that I have been quietly skeptical since she "came out of her coma" the first time. I've just been biding my time so that I could be absolutely sure beyond a reasonable doubt. I apologize if my zest for uncovering the truth caused me to string people along. I promise you, I wasn't doing it maliciously. I hope you all can forgive my awful behavior of the past few weeks, I'll do my best to never let it happen again. -piper p.s. thanks again malus Link to comment
mikejackson999 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Why does it not surprise me to see this person say she was hacked? It seems to be the most popular excuse for being an asshole these days Link to comment
Yvhuce Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Why does it not surprise me to see this person say she was hacked? It seems to be the most popular excuse for being an asshole these days It's not unheard of for someone's account to be hacked. My account was hacked on another forum, and the hacker insisted on only posting in the RP that I was in. It took a while to get that mess sorted out. Link to comment
mikejackson999 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 It's not unheard of for someone's account to be hacked. My account was hacked on another forum, and the hacker insisted on only posting in the RP that I was in. It took a while to get that mess sorted out. claims of hacked accounts have been going up, Look at the Washington politician who sent a follower a pic of his junk in underwear, he was hacked, yet gave zero proof(like an IP addy of the hacked post since twitter logs IP addy's), or how about celebrities who say homophobic things then get blasted? Of course they were hacked, they don't feel like that. Yes someone may get hacked every so often, hell my gmail email addy was hacked last year, but I could show proof it was hacked because I had the IP addy of the person who had logged into my account, thanks to their own security software. It seems hacking is the go to blame game now, and sadly 99% of the time, it was not due to hacking. Link to comment
lilJester Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I still go "wtf is wrong with people" i mean why all the bs lies? Seriously? what is there to really gain from it whats the point? Link to comment
AutieAB Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 It seems hacking is the go to blame game now, and sadly 99% of the time, it was not due to hacking. Because 9 times out of 10 it cannot be disproved, hence it's a rather convenient excuse because "you can't say I wasn't 'hacked'!" Link to comment
Little BabyDoll Christine Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 "You can't say I wasn't hacked" is one of the basic logical fallacies called "the Argument to Ignorance" and consists of trying to switch the burden of proof from the person making the claim, where it rightfully belongs, to the person questioning it. To which I would say "I am not saying that you were not hacked. You are saying that you were so prove it; show us the evidence" Link to comment
DiaperPony Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Sounds like a good test for religion: you claim you are my god, prove it (i.e. show me a sign). But, it seems that train of thought is condemned by the religious. Speaking of religion, did anyone's deity tell them this was a hoax when they were praying for "her" recovery? I guess it doesn't really matter, was just a thought. I've found this whole event to be mildly entertaining. Link to comment
Little BabyDoll Christine Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 That has been used with regard to religion for over 250 years. The hard-core religionist, after the various arguments; First Cause, Moral, Design and Sustaining, have been refuted often resorts to just that fallacy Link to comment
nick nick Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 this is all a bunch of fuckin bull shit i shed a tear for her .i didn't even do that at my grand dads funeral i hope the bitch gets what she diseves for that.i can asure you that there is a specal place in hell for people like that so shy if you read this FUCK YOU. babyaries Link to comment
AutieAB Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 "You can't say I wasn't hacked" is one of the basic logical fallacies called "the Argument to Ignorance" and consists of trying to switch the burden of proof from the person making the claim, where it rightfully belongs, to the person questioning it. To which I would say "I am not saying that you were not hacked. You are saying that you were so prove it; show us the evidence" Oh of course, Russell's Teapot and all that Link to comment
babyvr6 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Jeeze, it's as if people don't have enough drama in their real lives. Unless they have no life..... :rollseyesatinternetdramaqueens: Link to comment
willnotwill Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 90% of the personal information you see on the internet are lies. You shouldn't expect better on a forum such as this with a strong fantasy content to begin with. I remember another forum when they found out that some incontinent woman turned out to be a convicted pedophile male (this came to light after he was arrested again). There seemed to be more outrage in the fact that he lied about being a woman than in that he was in fact a pedophile and child pornographer taking pictures of small girls forced to wear diapers. Deception noted, please move along... 1 Link to comment
Little BabyDoll Christine Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 This whole thing is beginning to reemble a psych experiment Link to comment
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