myAlterEgo Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I didn't want to ruin the other really good thread that was started so I moved it here. This has bugged me for years, but I figured each member would figure it out on their own and to each his/her own. Either way, thanks to MommyVictoria for finally speaking out and giving me enough courage to speak out, although with my non-personal account. I have started this thread to expose the scams that AdrianSurley, the current name she is using, but has used so many more in the years past - please post them all here, has created and robbed all the members of the community over the years. For those who don't know, she runs sites or as she claims contributes and promotes sites, that originated that pay once for lifetime updates. There have been about 6 or 7 of these that I can think of. Most fail and a new emerges shortly there after. A thousand or so people pay up with the hope of daily images and videos as promised but the only updates are blog and/or forum updates and those are typically from the users themselves. Please feel free to contribute and share more of your personal horror stories with this wonderful abuser of the community! Link to comment
Guest refridginator Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 you're just mad because you're not seeing adrian's smoking hot booty in diapers! Link to comment
adriansurley Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 "For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another." ~1 John 3:11~ Link to comment
tris Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm in the south. Things are settled with scripture here, but this is the intarweb -- don't you have some kinda reply, or at least, to stick up for yourself? Or at even a, "I took your money. Thanks." ? I'm not calling you a thief, but if I rob, I say thank you and smile. It eases the blow. Link to comment
Topguy Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I guess that she could always refund the money if she felt bad about it-and wanted to do the right and christian thing for not coming through on her promises......how about it adrian? Link to comment
adriansurley Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Arguing or sharing a perspective is pointless on this board. Not worth my effort. I do not agree with any statements made, for the record. "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." ~Romans 10:4 Link to comment
Teddy Bear Brian Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Arguing or sharing a perspective is pointless on this board. Not worth my effort. I do not agree with any statements made, for the record. "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." ~Romans 10:4 No please do share your perspective. Instead of making the rest of us who profess to be Christians look ignorant and unhelpful. I mean there is enough of that with people blowing up abortion clinics and claiming God told them to kill somebody to do that. I don't know you, I don't know of your site. I just ask that you give a response to the accusation instead of using the bible for...well actually I'm not sure what your trying to get at there. Link to comment
jediaper Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ok, I may not know every detail that has transpired, but the only fault I can see that Adrian may or may not have committed is that her site doesn't have as frequent updates as she previously promised. My question is, how many other AB/DL websites have done this exact thing and no one gets as butt hurt about it as y'all have with Adrian here? I think y'all decide to come throw a tantrum here cause you have a "face" to come gripe to whereas most of the other sites that failed to deliver may as well have been run by an anonymous person that no one knows how to contact the site owner when the site starts to wither away. At least thats how I see it, tho if I'm wrong I'm sure I'll get flamed for playing the Devil's Advocate. Link to comment
Mr. Big Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Please feel free to contribute and share more of your personal horror stories with this wonderful abuser of the community! Maybe it would help your case to offer some more specific examples, or at least a timeline of these sites opening and closing? If it's as you say it is, thanks for speaking out. Link to comment
adriansurley Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Teddy Bear Brian: That was not my intention. I only quote bible versus when I am trying not to argue. It is truthfully hard to see some of the stuff said on this board and not sit there and want to correct them but quite honestly you can correct somebody on this board flat out and they will be stuck in their beliefs. I am a dedicated Christian and act as best as I can as such. The facts: I do not own IMABDL, I do not make money from IMABDL, I own the blog I Heart Diapers and post on it as regularly as possible. I am not internet savvy enough to run such a large site as I am sure that would entail. Other than that I cannot offer any proof of this of course so you are free to make your own judgments even though the Bible says only God may judge. Link to comment
bobbyc Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I have to agree with Adrian at this point; There is no need to defend yourself to someone making general accusations using an alias. Myalterego, if you feel Adrian has betrayed you and/or others, you should probably confront her personally and tell her the exact problems you have with her, just as you would with a business whose services you are unhappy with. What you have done so far is unproductive and immature. I'm not saying your statements are false, but rather giving advice on how to better make your point and perhaps resolve an issue. Link to comment
myAlterEgo Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Don't worry about myAlterEgo. It allows me to post anon without her coming back on me as she does. Just look at what she does if she doesn't like your ab/dl logo. I wished I had kept proof of her activities over the past couple years so I could show you but I sure there are people that can post more. She has used the names Stacey, Meagan and Jennifer before she used AdrianSurley. The only name that has remained constant in her entire story is Peter her BF. She may not own the site, but I bet he does and I bet he is making the money and I bet she is still getting the money. Going back to the names, in her first post here she stated: http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.php?showtopic=9414 Now I know people use multiple names, but now come on. She used to blog and post frequently in the forums about the pay one time for all sorts of updates. I know lots of sites don't post updates frequently. Its a common thing, but also most sites don't argue with you that a BLOG or FORUM post is the DAILY UPDATE!!! What a load of crap. Oh wait, I forgot that they count photo comments updates to the photos as updates as well. If anyone can, please post some of the other sites and usernames she originally used. Hell, Stacey, oh wait Adrian, oh wait, whatever your name is, why don't you. Why did this start? This started because someone posted a dl/ab logo that a lot of people liked and because enough people liked it, that person decided to get some shirts made. That was it. Not like he was trying to take over the community and force the logo on everyone, but because she had tried a logo in the past and make money on it and that no one liked it, she had to publicly slam the logo and try to ruin it all while not even trying to be constructive as everyone else has always been in this community. She has always scammed us and I felt it was time to call her out. She can come clean or go away Link to comment
adriansurley Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 myAlterEgo: The difference between you and I is that I don't like to waste my weekends and days with things such as this. I will agree with you on one thing - I have used Stacey as my name in the past and I explained that I believe in one of my first few posts on my blog. I stopped using it for privacy reasons related to my public life. Peter is my fiance actually. Where you got Meagan & Jennifer I am unsure of. If you only knew Peter you would laugh at the comment of him running a website or making money from it. Did you see his funny attempt at even keeping up with a blog? What you must understand is that this "online life" is an enjoyment for us to share and help others, nothing more and nothing less. We both have very well-paying jobs in the financial industry and do not need to run any sort of site for money - much less have to hassle or deal with people that make judgments of others. I will admit my comment about the logo was a little judgmental and too quick and for that I apologize. There are a lot more constructive things you could be doing then trying to pass judgments on someone...judgments should be left to God. I do not pretend or act to know anyone on this board, because quite frankly I don't. Please save your judgments and accusations as that is God's position. “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;" ~Luke 6:37 Link to comment
Guest dl_aslee Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 It certainly seems odd that she seems to be the only one promoting imabdl and never get any response from trying to contact the email on the site. Link to comment
Repaid1 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm not going to get into the middle of this...but this just seemed a little Ironic...... Call me Crazy? "I will admit my comment about the logo was a little judgmental and too quick and for that I apologize. There are a lot more constructive things you could be doing then trying to pass judgments on someone...judgments should be left to God. I do not pretend or act to know anyone on this board, because quite frankly I don't. Please save your judgments and accusations as that is God's position. “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;" ~Luke 6:37 " Link to comment
Topguy Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I suppose that people who sent money could just get thier statements and see where the paper trail leads. Electronic transfers always have an end and a beginning-and clear documentation. It cuts to the chase really fast. Link to comment
rockrat Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 It certainly seems odd that she seems to be the only one promoting imabdl and never get any response from trying to contact the email on the site. That was going to be my point. How come she is the only one with the banners and seems to be the only one who promotes the site? If she doesn't own the site or receive benefits from it in some way, why endorse it so heavily? I mean, I love DD, but I am not out there doing free advertising for the site. Well, maybe sometimes. Also, a lot of legitimate sites get royally pissed if you call them a scam. How come she hasn't, even if she doesn't own or receive benefits but because she endorses so heavily, staunchly defended the site stating that its not a scam? Just curious and my two cents. Link to comment
lilwetone Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm just confused... AdrianSurley gets money? since when? I visit that blog now and then and I've never had to pay for anything. Link to comment
rockrat Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Also, I just did a little digging here and Iheartdiapers is owned and ran on the same server as imadbdl, so those sites are essentially one in the same. Now obviously they could both be two seperate people on isp's like godaddy or such, but chances are it is the same person or people. I don't know just an observation. lilwetone, I think what people are talking about is paying for iamabdl, not iheartdiapers. I think what people are upset about was the site advertises a pay once for lifetime updates and it states daily photo, video, blog, forum updates so it mislead people thinking they would be getting lots of photos and videos and in turn they just got updates to blogs and forums. From what I understand, now I have never been there, is that most of the updates are supplied by the users themselves and not the site owners. Not sure on this, maybe Adrian or someone else can clarify. Again, just my two cents and observations. Not trying to get in the middle of this. Just seems if I was getting called out and I knew I had been doing nothing wrong and definitely NOT scamming a very trust oriented community, I would be very loudly proclaiming such instead of quoting the bible at people and sitting back. Link to comment
sarah_ab Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 ohhh he's soo cute.. i love the drama llama cause he's all cute.. but i wonder if he'll spit in my eye like the last llama i met did. Link to comment
Bettypooh Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm with repaid as far as knowing nothing and not wanting to add to the situation, however I would like to make it known that threads like this one cause more harm than good, especially when someone new to the site sees it and decides that we're not the nice people in a nice place they were looking for when they found us Being nice isn't always easy, but it's always nicer for everybody else when you try Bettypooh Link to comment
rockrat Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I agree and I have almost always just kept quite, but at the same point by letting everyone in our community get scammed and not calling it out, we do more harm than good. The simple solution is for the owner to come here and tell us what the site is about and clarify their position. Just let it all out. I am sure Adrian or Stacey, since she endorses the site so heavily - if she is in fact not the owner, can pass on a message. Otherwise, it is important that we let other members to our community be warned. I sure want to know about the hazards out there. We have always done that when stores have popped up and taken money, why is a web site any different? Link to comment
rockrat Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Also, isn't she the one who originally tried to setup some sort of diaper myspace or diaper facebook thingy? I remember she had some site that she used to really endores prior to iheart diapers but I don't know what it was. Maybe she will tell us. Link to comment
Toddler Pampers Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The anonymous poster may have found a minor rat, but his rant is seriously undercut by revealing that it comes as retaliation for Stacey criticizing a logo. Moreover, IMABDL has been there a long time. Maybe they don't do what they claim, but for $10 it's not like you got nothing at all. I will say this about IMABDL: They do not answer e-mail as I have asked about paying with Paypal, because I did not feel comfortable giving my credit card details. I didn't want a one-time fee to result in having to cancel a credit card. And I'm not particularly paranoid. What we all need to remember is that diaper fetish sites are sex sites, and the people running them should not be trusted any more than Wall Street bankers or Washington politicians with your money. They know you're not really in a position to complain (about credit card fraud), because to do so you will have to disclose extremely personal information. In short, don't waste your life trying to reform the porn industry, or Wall Street or Congress for that matter. Link to comment
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