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Oh shit.... I'm basically an atheist leaning agnostic, but if this shit was going down I'd probably try the roman right if only because it would be the only thing I could think of in terms exorcism/abjuration. Obviously hit a with a paralytic I'm not getting a pentacle sketched.
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pg. 381
I just watched a character get raped. What the fuck is wrong with me? I'm..... Fuck I need a hot shower and alcohol but I don't have anything to cut it with screw it I'l take it on the rocks. I feel wrong. Yeah that's going to be rattling around my headspace for a while. Shit I think my hands are shaking, just a little but it's harder to hit the keys.
I'm think I'm done but I need to know what happens. Jesus H. Christ
Why do I keep doing this?
Mixing espresso drink and rum. Yeah this is going to end badly and I have to but myself to blame.... fuck it.
Least it actually tastes pretty good like rumchatta but with coffee
Sorry for those reading who have to put up with me I suggest you just skip my post when they get rant'y
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pg. 382
Allhighest these two are stronger then I could ever be. I would have completely snapped within a month of phase one, never mind phase zero, never mind.... that
In a weird way I feel like I owe it to them be there with them to the end, like if I can't help myself at least can help these two somehow. I think I'm projecting but that's not right more latching on to what feels like my own sense of powerlessness, just cranked up way the hell past 11. It's like I see myself in these girls and can't look away no matter how horrible it gets
I have serious issues.....
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Ok I'm going to keep reading if only because I feel like I owe it to Sophie and Audrey to be there till the end.
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This is why communication is critical.
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I mean, I think we'd all be terrible protagonists in the stories that I right.
Ex: Suddenly Bill was in diapers and everyone thought of him as nothing more than a baby. "Huh," Bill said leaning back in his newly manifested playpen. "well alright then." THE ENDIn my case it would probably turn into a Quentin Tarantino film on acid.
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This should be interesting.
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pg. 301
Damn you don't even get shit like that with heroin, my mind is drawing a blank on how this could even work from physiological standpoint. The optogenetics explains the "hypnotism", which would be more accurately called neurohacking. But how do these drugs work? The only thing I can think of is that they some how stay attached to the same sites as MDMA but for an incredibly long duration and they would have to be absorbed sublingually to enter the blood anywhere close to how fast they do. That's what's baffling me it shouldn't be possible for the drugs to reach the site of action so quickly. The effects of the drugs could be explained by a comparatively simple cocktail of hallucinogens, diuretics, and laxatives. But that final piece I can't make sense of it.
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pg. 309
I really want to know how the people working at this place deal with the ethical implications. Like nobody has a moment of self awareness and realizes hey maybe we are the bad guys? Like that one comedy sketch with the SS officers. I mean fuck in real life dozen's of people in Vermacht high command tried to bump off Hitler. Then again thousands went along with it. That's the real horrifying part knowing that it's entirely possible that someone could go along with this. I'd weep for humanity but I'm to exhausted and don't have sufficient fucks left to give.
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pg. 326
Velvet smiled and jotted down some notes as she spoke - poor initial
response to oral fixation indoctrination - and then looked a little bit
thoughtful. “My brother was nineteen when he went to prison for
something that wasn’t really his fault. He got stabbed two months
into a six month sentence and died. Violence was so bad back then,
overcrowding, disease... it was inhumane. This is better. A few short
months and even the worst of the worst are rehabilitated. No prisons,
no stabbing, and a 0% reoffender rate.” It was a deep topic that she
wouldn’t have gone into, especially not with a patient, but she felt very
strongly that this place was a good thing. “I don’t believe in the
punishment elements of here, like the memory wiping. But I do want
to help people. I want to help people like you and like Staycee and all
the others who just need someone to guide them.”Well that answers my question and the logic even makes a certain twisted kind of sense. I suppose you can rationalize anything.
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Now that I know more about the layout escape seems possible. Just head to the clinic pretending to have a medical issue. Take out the nurse/tech. Grab a syringe and get them up in a hold from behind. Insert into the Jugular but don't press the plunger yet. You now have a hostage. Your terms are open the gods damned doors.
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Should have taken a hostage girls
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pg. 355
I don't have any words left there's only so many expletives you can scream before it becomes pointless. I'd punch something but I'm too exhausted.
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I give five years tops before their perfect recidivism rate goes up by several orders of magnitude. There's no way you can subject someone to this level of stress without lasting damage. Honestly I suspect they're are going to be a lot of suicides and active shooter incidents because of this place.
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Honestly, the second you stop fighting, you pretty much are a slave to their reconditioning. "Giving up" in this case is no different to "giving in" because they'll just rewrite your interests, fascinations, beliefs, and goals. They will make those new goals obtainable and in the interest of the facility. And you'd just be another pawn on the board. Honestly, I'd say 50% of men who get brought to Mt. Calibeen have that EXACT response. And those are the girls you see in Phase Three who are really adamant about forming clubs and doing their best to be good little girls.
So talking complete personality rewrite? If we consider me to be the sum total of my thoughts, experiences, and decisions then by erasing that I am for all practical intents and purposes "dead" and beyond their control or ability to harm. I win in that case as well. I enter the void at peace and free of suffering.
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So we are basically having a conversation about the nature of existence, person hood, and suffering on a fetish board
What the fuck?
This is why I love the internet
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pg. 300
Yeah I'd be pretty tempted to just check out and go full purple haze. Honestly it's not even the torture but the personal knowledge that something like this is allowed to exist, I think that would probably send me over into complete full on misanthropic nihilist territory and the proscpet of an OD would be pretty appealing. I'd probably give one last defiant speech to make it clear that like Socrates I'm taking this shit as my own decision.
Actually that's an interesting question what do they do with the people who break and just stop giving a shit?
I feel like the end result of this would just be me sprawled on the floor, flying at 70,000 ft., singing "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" or something to that effect. Not sure how they'd handle that. But I figure if they just decided to shoot me I get what I want and I win, or I get taken out of the facility and I also win. Classic Xantos gambit.
Let go of attachment and you let go of suffering
How would Caliban handle a Zen Nihilist?
It seems like the best course of action in this place is to simply do nothing. I think I just figured out how to checkmate Caliban.
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@pg. 274 Jesus what's in that stuff? How the hell does it act that fast? One drop on the tongue? How does it even reach the CNS to take effect? Was there preconditioning? The effects sound like MDMA but the instantaneous effect it shouldn't be possible from a physiological standpoint. Typically MDMA which this seems closest to can hours to reach full effect. And what do they do about the side effects?
I can only imagine the shit storm when this gets' out. It's going to make the Tuskegee experiments, agent orange, and water gate look like small time shit. Hell this may the first time in history US government officials face a Hague tribunal. Honestly something long over due.
pg. 281
I'm almost 100% against the death penalty but in this case.....
The fact that these people knowingly and of their own free will engaged in this kind of torture. You have to know this shit is wrong and nobody was forcing you to do this. Honestly I might be able to ignore white collar shit or data falsification if meant not rocking the boat, but this... If my boss asked me to work on something this fucked... I'd play along just long enough to clear out some files before hauling ass for the nearest FBI field office. I'd also make backups online set to release on a timer.
There is no excuse. If I was on the jury I'd send them to a firing squad no hesitation.
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You know I wonder if you could restore memories with older hypnosis techniques or with psychedelics. I know there have been experiments with using them in the treatment of PTSD. Although the best thing would be capture one of those machines and reverse engineer the process. The actual research papers would be even been better. The problem is that it sounds like repeated editing causes some kind of neurological damage. Possibly by causing connections to break and reform in unpredictable ways. If you had a complete connectome map though could you use the optogentic process to the selectively regrow the connections back into their original positions? Complete factory reset. That data has to exist or how else would they account for personal differences in brain structure necessary to get the level of precision and control required for this? So if you were to get the original brain scans it might be possible to undue the damage but at the possible cost of the new memories. Maybe you could digitally reconstruct the memories from the scan data so that the person can re-expierience them via a video? They have to make those machines somewhere. Or if they are assembled on site the parts have to purchased somewhere. The transports can't have heavy escort without attracting attention, the drivers probably don't even know what they are carrying. Get the shipping logs find a remote stretch on the delivery route. Two cars with state police markings pull up front and rear stopping the truck. A van carrying the strike team pulls up and takes control of the truck. Then the vehicles return to a warehouse to transfer the cargo, the team scatters after we torch the fake state police cruisers and the truck.
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@pg. 168 Rochel sounds like someone who could possibly be recruited as an inside informant
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@ pg. 133
So breaking conditioning is possible and it seems strong emotions are key. Which actually makes sense for reactivating dormant neurocircuits. So given how much this would piss me off would the conditioning be flawed and require frequent reapplication in my case?
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@pg. 145
I have to admit stage 4 is where if I somehow made it through alive and with some part of my mind still intact, is where I'd probably say fuck it and just roll with it, mainly out of exhaustion. But also because as much as it embarrasses me to admit there's a part of me that would like stage 4.
Although I'd probably have to avoid any "domestication" classes if I didn't want to get sent back for punching someone's face in.
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"Audrey was thoughtful. I knew what she was
thinking about, too, and the idea of a bunch of random boys fucking my
Audrey… of her bright spark being extinguished and replaced with the quiet
submission of Snow just made me feel… ill."I think I'm going to be sick
I mean god damn that is not how a dominate submissive relationship is supposed to work. I can't imagine how many years of therapy it would take to undo the damage this place is inflicting on people if it can even be done. Calling it "Liberation" is some class A new speak bullshit.
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I've not read today's release, but you sure have YourFNF fired up. Is is possible for you to send me the pdf for this one as well?
Apparently I'm getting a reputation
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I would love if people liked our stuff enough to make a shared universe out of them!
Well given how I'm itching to bash these fascists I could see myself writing a story about a group of hacktivist vigilantes, doctors, and Fox Mulder types in the government fighting a shadow war with these people.
Trying to think of a badass group name.
Also who the hell would sign up for something like this?
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@pg. 125 Honestly if I was Audrey and I had just received this information, what I'd do is wait, hold on till I get out, then grab Stacie and head for Canada. Once there I can blow the whistle safely. Submit an asylum application.
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It's just a story.
Pudding and I write a lot of stories that elude to "women being less than men" or "men being forced to act/dress/become a woman as punishment". Which is obviously RIDICULOUS. Most of these stories are actually completely contrary to our personal real-life beliefs. And obviously that cognitive dissonance can cause shame or guilt. But it's understanding the difference between fiction and reality, you know? It's okay that you get this enjoyment out of Audrey, because in real life, if this ever really happened? You'd join that tactical ops team breaking in to shut this place down.
Yeah honestly I don't even need an excuse to mentally flog myself, so if given one....
I guess I could think of it as feeling good knowing that these two found some kind of happiness in an absolutely fucked beyond all reason situation. Hell if the orange cheeto stages a coupe in the next five years and I wind up in camp finding someone like that would probably be one of the few things that would keep me from charging the fence, machine guns be damned.
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Oh thank you sweet Rama Krishna. Ok that son of bitch is going to die at the end of his confession vid. Assuming they don't give him an optogenetic lobotomy first. And Rochelle for what you did, if you agree to testify we'll forgo the doxing and even setup new identity papers.
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This whole conversation is a trip. XD
Keep this in mind when you read Velvet!!
As for exposing Mt. Calibeen... I don't think it would go very well.
They have... methods in place. To ensure they are safeguarded. And when it comes to the sequel, it's a possibility. But it won't be for a while.
I can say with certainty at least MOST of the people who are there do deserve it. And don't worry about getting turned on by Audrey - who isn't?
OKAY!!! New chapters today!
Methods? I mean alarms can be hacked, guards can be tasered and ziptied, a little thermite will take care of just about any lock. What do they have that would counter an armed and prepared team of militarized grey hats? Some kind of lock out that wipes the server's as a safe guard? But judging by your reaction it's probably more than that. The obvious answer would some kind of hypnotic flash as an automated defense but none of us would have the necessary genetic coding to be susceptible and we'd all be wearing full face coverage masks or tinted visors so there should be zero effect.
As for the last part. I just feel shame and guilt for getting any enjoyment out of what these people are going through. Nobody deserves this and I know I can't help my reactions but.....
I seriously want to make that bastard technician confess on camera. He would have all sorts of fun in prison.
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I put on as bright a smile as I could as tears started down my cheeks,
looking at Lexi as sincerely as anyone could manage. "Thank you very
much… I deserved that…"I shrugged my shoulders, putting my hand out on the table for Staycee to
paint, still using the other to wipe the tears off my cheeks. "It's best… that
they treat me like that. I learn faster… the worse this experience is for
me, the more likely I'll never get myself in this situation again…"
Would she understand that? I wasn't even sure I understood it until just a
second ago, but I certainly did now. This was what I deserved. A day of
absolute Hell.Yeah I would not have survived more than a month in this place. Even if I got out the PTSD flashbacks and nightmares would probably.....
"after the shot and being hypnotized" Okay that must be the retro virus that's used as the vector. I'm honestly wondering if my final plan if I know extraction wasn't coming would even work. It's incredibly simple break off a piece of glass or sheet metal, make a small incision to sever the carotid and femoral arteries. But it's also obvious, would they have put a block to stop it? Could I force my hand to move anyway?
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@pg.63 You know I wonder if these dreams are memories that haven't been completely suppressed?
Also I'm now 90% sure this is MK ultra 2.0 or maybe even 3.0
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"And
the idea of being wrongly accused… there was due process for a reason."Oh honey.... These kind of people don't give a shit about that if they can get away with. Especially if your brown and or poor.
Yeah..... I went there
Although with a conspiracy this deep my background (Army vet dad, mom who's a nurse) and pasty white ass might not be sufficient protection. Especially if I got to close to the truth, and with my politics. I could be a target for elimination.........
(checks go bag: $20,000 [1/4 in US dollars, euro, pound sterling, and Yen], passports and ID cards(US, British, Malta, and Uruguay), change of clothes, survival kit, field surgery kit, all composite caseless holdout pistol with ceramic rounds, telescoping baton, utility knife in ceramic and composite, multitool, laptop, 6 burner phones with preloded sim cards) check condition green.
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"I don't think I’ve ever flirted before." I think my avenue was more to
drug the girl and just have my way with her - cut out the flirting. But that
was Callum. And I'm Staycee now. Staycee doesn't date rape girls. She
flirts. And so I needed to learn how to flirt.You know I wonder if either of these girls actually did anything to get sent here? That would be classic gas lighting. Then again maybe I just don't want to think Stacie is capable of.... that.
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@pg. 79
So yeah full confession I got turned on when Audrey wet her pants on purpose. I don't feel right. Like what the fuck is wrong with me. I want to shower with bleach with the water as hot as it'll get until my skin looks like one massive sunburn.
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p.s. I wonder, if you knew this was a thing could you implant the equivalent of encryption or antivirus software. Like if your memories get edited these preimplanted sequences trip and breaks the conditioning
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Just want to point out one thing. You can edit what is in a person brain without surgery, it's been done for hundreds of years. Brain washing is one of the more 'well known' ways to edit things. A person can be put under stress and will forget things and false memories can be implanted into someone mind and they will naturally fill in the blanks. The human brain is the most complex computer on the plant at the moment and it can be rewired and rewritten if a person knows how. Psychology studies have shown some amazing things a person can do to the mind, that being said the 'instant' memory alterations is more science fiction but it's not as far off as you may think. I normally wouldn't link this channel because he tends to miss a lot of facts but this video he did a good job in so I'll link it below.
@9:12 Oh fuck I was wondering if it was optogenetics but since gene editing wasn't specifically mentioned I wasn't a hundred percent sure.
Well my paranoia levels just shot up by like 200%. This kinda makes me think of Descartes and his "mind altering demon".
I absolutely adore all the discussion in this thread!!
@YourFNF - The hypnosis itself has a built in "breakdown" of the self and forces the hypnotisms upon you. Resistance does nothing. Again, Velvet will delve into this a lot more.
Also please understand that Mt. Calibeen is sexist and evil and in no way reflects our personal beliefs! They're awful, you have no idea. But that's half the fun. There's so much "behind the scenes" that we never even get into. And it's all government sponsored. Mt. Calibeen is the sort of place that conspiracy theorists can be right about!
Again, there are reasons that people don't sue and people don't get involved, and that's mostly because Mt. Calibeen has WAY too much power. You'll see a little bit of that in Lottie. Just keep reading and enjoy the story.
And if you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.
As for Pudding's comment: we did write an epilogue of sorts! Set years and years later when the place got shut down. It was something like a horror story.
But that one probably won't be canon. It's lost in the endless backlog of our story archives.
~Sophie
I really want to read read that epilogue at some point. Also do you think my plan of going after their archive servers would have worked? Either remote hacking or on site.
...... Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to an urgent care clinic for an x-ray and to get a few blood samples taken. $1,200 cash should do it for no questions asked and no records
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YourFNF,
You may want to read Widowmaker's story called Raven.
I liked the main character, salute to my sister in anarchy, but the rape scene that seemed to be included for pure shock value was to much, I had to stop reading. Like that was direct hit right in the anxiety disorder. I need a minute. Fuck I want to kick something over. No joke if I was in the same room with that fucking monster and I had gun... Two rounds center mass final shot point blank to the face. I wouldn't even flinch. (screams inarticulately while knocking over furniture) I'm not one for revenge torture but fuck it would be tempting to kneecap and get a few kicks in.
It's not even the fact that it was triggering so much as I didn't feel clean reading it, like it felt like I was watching a snuff film.
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Yeah I like Raven as character but I can't keep reading after that rape scene, just Jesus Christ. Fuck I may need to get the bag.
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YourFNF,
I like your thought but instead of using deadly weapon or extreme force, I would suggest tranquilizer guns that would have nanites loaded in them, that would make any amazon Is hostel into a little. No dead bodies no PR problem And victims will not want to draw attention to themselves and risk being adopted. Eventually there would be more little than amazon and the little would be safe.
Honestly I feel like forcibly altering somebodies body is worse than killing them from an ethical standpoint.
YourFNF,
You may want to read Widowmaker's story called Raven.
That sounds interesting
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If you have a bit of pattern know-how, you might also be able to size-up kids patterns (Its really just a lot of math) or use other patterns to get the area you need (Swim suits?)
I believe when I tried something similar I used a tracing of my plastic pants for guidance.I actually managed to find a good one on another site now I just have to select the inner fabric material. I actually found something really cool for the outer waterproof layer.
https://www.wazoodle.com/fabrics/pul-fabric/1mil/life-rocks.html
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