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  1. boyhood
    Spargano, that image of the aftermath of your experience is... horrific to say the least and I'm actually pretty surprised you shared it here. I know you're just looking for some advice but you should know the design and execution was an absolute failure since it looks like something out of a crime scene. A description would do in this case. However, I suppose the only positive thing I can say is this serves as a reminder that this activity does not come without risks. Stent building is not all unicorns and rainbows, but it should absolutely not be attempted before better educating yourself and having a substantial level of experience with catheters. This thread alone has more resources to teach you the rights and wrongs than you should ever need to perform this process safer than you have. I encourage you to go through and carefully read every page of this thread, in addition to the PDF archive we have provided in the OP that provides hundreds of more examples of experiences from stent users before the forum crash. As an aside to Cathdiap, no one here would ever (or is) blaming you for sharing your method with stents. It's even in the title ("My experiences with stents"). Just like everyone in here, we each take full responsibility for our actions and our stent builds. If anything, you have (along with the entire community) helped promote safe practices in stenting and have without a doubt saved dozens of people from having bad experiences and less than ideal outcomes. A couple of things are also for sure, deleting this thread will not stop people from building them, and we've definitely had bigger horror stories than a rogue and bloody design. Best we can do is continue to support those people and emphasize safe practices and education in the art of stent building. Spargano, I can only give you my opinion as it's somewhat unclear with the number of things that went wrong with your design but to me it looks quite massive. I'd also make a less-than wild prediction that your design is not smooth from tip to base. It's also evident your insertion methodology was far too aggressive, likely due to inexperience and a lack of reading the do's and don'ts that have been reiterated here countless times. Lube shouldn't even be necessary at all if you know what you're doing which you clearly don't. My advice is to read this entire thread closely and don't be impatient when educating yourself. If you can manage that I'm sure next time you will have much better luck.
  2. boyhood
    Sorry if this was mentioned earlier on in the thread Reddy but I'm curious to hear if you told your folks about the surgery? Do they know that you are diaper (or in this case catheter) dependent right now or were you able to (or intend to) hide that from them and your friends? So you have managed to just wear regular clothes with no risk of leaking right now? Sending best wishes your way and hoping the cath opens things back up for you.
  3. boyhood
    This looks like a solid design. I think I recall you talking about the process before so don't mind me asking but: 1) How do you fit those balls past the meatus? Have you had a meatotomy? 2) What is the diameter of the balls, just so we can understand the french-sized equivalent? 3) Did you use PVC for the tubing molded directly vs using Teflon inner tubing? What material are the balls? Are they squishy? 4) How are the balls securely fastened with no risk of popping off? With an uncut meatus, I would imagine that's next to impossible to pass, am I wrong? It looks like a great design if able to be inserted. Shortening the bottom bend a couple of centimeters was probably a smart thing on your new update. That thing looks 100% migration-proof so kudos!
  4. boyhood
    Have you been missing diapers since the surgery? Did you open your new packages thinking about your future dependence on them soon? Also, just curious if you have already taken care of pubic hair removal via laser or electrolysis? Can't wait to hear your updates!
  5. boyhood
    It looks extremely long, do you have the measurements? Also am seeing many sharp edges present on the adjoining pieces which would account for the bleeding. Everything must be smooth to the touch or there will be irritation inside of the urethra.
  6. boyhood
    Good luck! Excited to hear the updates, and hope the recovery goes well for you. I imagine there will likely be some pain for a while before you heal, but I'm sure you are prepared for that. Keep us posted and enjoy the journey!
  7. boyhood
    It's been 1.5 years since I've tried a stent but I recently tried a new design inspired by Cathdiap's. It locks right into place and I had it in for a little over 48 hrs. Here are a few pics (pardon the dry hands-- this winter has been cold!) I've been using a diamond-coated animal nail grinder in my Dremel to accomplish the rounded edges on the silicone: Like all of the 20+ designs I've tried, it works flawless during the day but not very well lying down. Perhaps it is just my physique but in my experience my urethra flattens out almost entirely when lying flat due to the ~90° bottom bend which I've found promotes inward migration. I guess this shouldn't really come as much of a surprise as seeing a straight urethral sound or straight urethroscope (like the below) can technically be inserted all the way into the bladder... meaning the urethra is super flexible: So again I'm back to the drawing board. The longest I've gone with a design in was 2 weeks with a former O-Ring design modeled after dlnoir's design. No solution has perfectly satisfied all the criteria that I have sought: Easy insertion and removal past the meatus (Cathdiap's is an example, O-Rings are not) Good drainage during the day and night regardless of position No migration in any position, even with a strong Kegel pelvic floor exercise My ultimate goal is to build a comfortable stent that satisfies each of these goals at once, with an emphasis on a design that I can sleep with to promote bedwetting but I have still never had a design that accomplishes that. They all suck when lying down, and that's honestly why I've taken a 1.5 year break with stents.
  8. boyhood
    There are some people still messaging me looking for the backup file to before this forum crashed, as it appears FileDropper no longer exists so I am attaching it here for anyone to save or share. Here is also a link to the download that will expire in one year (1/16/25): https://file.io/io4kLYJwaiuN Cathdiap, would you be able to attach this to your first post as the OP? My experience with stents - Incontinent-Desires - [DD] Boards & Chat.pdf
  9. boyhood
    Thank you for the well-written advice. It's really helpful to hear the success stories from those who lived their entire life without bedwetting, and were able to accomplish it with natural methods later on. For me that would be the ultimate goal if only I could get by one major psychological hurdle... That is needing to "not" be a bedwetter 5% of the year while on the road with my family or friends. I have worn diapers to bed about 95% of the year for the past 8 years now, always at home where I have no trouble wetting while laying down, but while sleeping, I have honestly only had that "aha!" moment you speak about about 4 or 5 times at most... That's literally my success rate out of about 2,774 nights! My question: is it possible to become a bedwetter only at home in your bed and not in other beds? By the nature of being a bedwetter, I would assume not, but would love to hear this from you or others that have more experience with this conundrum.
  10. boyhood
    15cm is close to 6" in length, I think that is plenty long, though the distance between the bends is what matters a bit more than the overall length and will slightly differ for everyone. It's all about trial and error, finding what works for your physique, what doesn't work and refining it until you are satisfied.
  11. boyhood
    I would be interested to know if this worked for you. The bottom bend looks a bit more obtuse than I would trust to prevent inward migration. Something closer to a 90° would be much less likely to slide around. Just my personal opinion.
  12. boyhood
    Quick questions for Cathdiap & InD: have either of you experimented with an L shaped design? If so, can you share your experience? Wondering the main advantages of that upper bend in your [ shaped designs: is it to prevent inward migration because the near-90 degree bottom bend isn't sufficient to keep the stent in place alone? When inserted, isn't the upper curve inside your bladder pointing forward, perhaps the tip of the stent pinned up against the front of your bladder wall? If so, does this assist in preventing inward migration?
  13. boyhood
    The material for the inside tubing is simply Teflon (PTFE). It's chemically inert, highly resistant to corrosion, and easily moldable with a heat gun. You will have to experiment with different wall thicknesses on the PTFE to find what is both strong enough but not too narrow of an inside diameter as to not constrict the flow. The outside diameter of the PTFE should match the inside diameter of the silicone for a snug fit. I recommend platinum cured silicone for the purest quality. I believe I am using 1/8" ID x 3/16" OD PTFE and 3/16" ID x 5/16" OD platinum cured silicone. The specific type of PTFE I'm using is FEP, or Fluoroethylenepropylene, which is the melt-processable version of PTFE. FEP has very similar properties to PTFE, but has a lower maximum operating temperature of +200°C. However, FEP can be more easily processed and can be easily welded and re-moulded into complex profiles. FEP: https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/29171998 Silicone: https://www.ebay.com/itm/383293662878
  14. boyhood
    A PA with that device would probably work and would stay in place, but opens a portal from the outside to the bladder since it's not entirely internal like most stent designs. That drastically increases the risk of a UTI as bacteria would be able to enter, and also wouldn't promote the feeling of incontinence since you wouldn't feel the dribbling. It is much more similar to a catheter in that effect.
  15. boyhood
    Hey zraihusky, this is very interesting. Do you have any pictures of 1) the balls alone after you expand the hole as it would be interesting to see what size to expand the hole & 2) the Dremmel tool used to expand the hole (I've got the same Dremmel), & 3) a closeup of the holes you have punched/smoothed on your stent? Also a question: You say you are able to remove the balls by hand. So my question is with the extreme tightness the balls must have when going in & out of the meatus, how do you not fear a ball will pop off the tubing? What safeguards are in place to ensure this doesn't happen (no stitching etc)? Also what's your plan if a ball were to pop off? I fear if the ball on the bladder end were to pop off, this wouldn't be possible to pee out like a kidney stone.
  16. boyhood
    That design is interesting, it is very much like the malecot catheters that expand/collapse the wings with a stylet, but instead uses what appears to be an external tube (straightener) to both place & retrieve the stent. But it is a prostatic stent so may not be long enough to bridge both urethral sphincters. If it were long enough, it looks like the straightener would need to be placed just into the bladder. The pusher would push the stent out of the straightener so the first wings can expand into the bladder. Then be slowly withdrawn to repeat the process for the lower wings. Retrieval would be possible with the opposite process if the retrieval string were passed through the straightener, just by pulling it back into it. At least that's what I'm gathering... Wish these springy wing stents could be made at home though because I like that idea.
  17. boyhood
    Just a guess but I would assume the subtle movement of the stent rubbing on the prostate during exercise is what is causing his peristalsis. Cathdiap, do you also feel an intense pleasure during these occurances?
  18. boyhood
    I've not heard of sex being a viable option with a stent in place. You can likely imagine the retrieval string would make this difficult. But since sperm exits through the prostate, it has to find its way around the stent and that lubrication highly increases the chance the stent migrates into the bladder. During ejaculation, the inner sphincter clentches to prevent sperm from entering the bladder, and I've found it's an odd and somewhat uncomfortable sensation. Often the result has led to my stent temporarily plugging up and preventing urine flow for an hour or so. When using a stent, I try not to induce sexual pleasure which is often difficult because diapers do enough of that for me on default.
  19. boyhood
    It happens anyway? This means you have involuntary contractions, i.e. an overactive bladder. With the same design or any design deemed perfect (that fits in place without migrating), I don't think it's fair to assume that anyone here can expect to wet the bed on their backs. I'm on I believe my 23rd stent design, and most of my latest do bridge both sphinchers without budging. Like seemingly all in here (except a couple experience), I will attest that everything works perfectly until I lay down. Back / side / stomach doesn't matter, the shift in gravity blocks the automatic flow of urine. In a fluid dynamic sense, it's actually not tough to understand why this is. There needs to be pressure from the inside (or suction from the outside) to accommodate this flow as gravity is no longer in your favor. Like siphoning liquid, it is the same exact principle. So sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but without bladder contractions at night, you aren't going to accomplish bedwetting with a stent. To be completely honest, this is the #1 reason I've been turned off by stenting. I've found it's actually much harder to urinate in bed with a stent than without.
  20. boyhood
    Nope, for some reason, it's probably easier to void laying down without a stent quite honestly. Almost requires me to push a little to succeed with one in. But if I sit/stand up and let gravity bring the urine to the neck of the bladder it's instant wetting, so I know the placement is right. Any ideas? I'm still really interested to know that your designs seem to work in any position, especially at night. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong to achieve the same.
  21. boyhood
    Sounds like an interesting idea! I spent a stent record (2 weeks) in diapers after Thanksgiving this year using the trusty silicone o-ring method discussed in this thread but am also constantly thinking about new engineering ideas. No model has yet allowed me to wet while laying down so I have still been unable to fulfill this dream of wetting the bed. I think the problem is that because gravity is no longer in our favor, the bladder's detrusor muscle must operate / be activated to help squeeze out the urine, akin to real bedwetting, requiring the body to have a nerve impulse to void. As everything with my stents work perfectly fine the second I stand up, I just really would like to find a solution that works at night as well.
  22. boyhood
    Hey doogles, I know that can be tricky. I explained one method in this post, good luck!
  23. boyhood
    I've also experienced that blockage you mentioned from the tip of the meatus pinned up against the diaper, even without an erection! This could also be due to me preferring a tight fit. I've found when stenting to keep the diaper a bit looser-- adds to the crinkle effect as a nice little bonus! Cathdiap, I noticed you mentioned that you "switched to your back"... What position do you find success in bedwetting? Stomach, side, or some obtuse angle? If any of these, esp stomach, I can see the benefit when stented as the urine would not be situated at the top/back of the bladder as I had earlier indicated (for back sleepers)... The neck of the bladder would in these cases be much more likely to be in constant contact with the urine. Gravity is a big factor when stenting! Looking forward to your response! Edit: P.S. Thanks for snapping a pic of your latest just now!
  24. boyhood
    Cathdiap, thanks for this info. I'm proud of your outcome and am sure many of us would agree this is the ultimate goal. But after 15 different designs, I still have not reached a solution that works in bed. In fact, I have started to conclude that it may not even be possible due to all the processes that need to come together to make urination possible: While lying down, gravity switches the position of urine to the top/back of the bladder, and the neck of the bladder is more often not submerged, or even touched by urine. Even with a perfect stent providing a wide open portal, the detrusor muscle of the bladder has to contract in order for this urine to escape. As I'm sure you are aware, that contraction of the bladder is among the final steps in the process of urination which requires a complicated set of neurological dependencies. Are you slowly dripping at night or actually emptying your entire bladder at once? If the latter, this requires the detrusor to contract, akin to real bedwetting.
  25. boyhood
    @cathdiap I love this design with the semi-acute angle as a hook into the deep perennial pouch. Do you have any update on it? Also wanted to ask, since this design looks centered around preventing migration (which you may have finally achieved?) what are your thoughts on voiding the first bend inside the bladder, so it is instead just straight and possibly a bit shorter? I am considering a similar design. The former question may allow drainage while lying down as it wouldn't be pointing up above the pee in the bladder? Possibly also with a cm or two longer hook on the bottom side, and multiple punch holes into the silicone on both ends (outside of the Teflon) at various placements to aid in draining / passage for various body positions. Interested to hear your feedback before I begin. P.S. What is the outer diameter of your silicone tubing? I just upsized with a new purchase again, hoping I will be able to pass it: 5/16" (OD) x 3/16" (ID)... 1/16" wall (7.938 mm x 4.762 mm... 1.588 mm wall), 70A shore hardness rating, equates to roughly a French size 23-24! (WOOF!) - boyhood
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