Totophe

As I drink about 2 liters of water in the 3 hours before going to bed, I usually pass a large amount of urine into my diaper before going to sleep. Then, in the morning, I wet again just after waking up. Although I sometimes have a vague recollection of having wet in half-sleep, how can I be sure that I have passed a sizeable amount of urine during half sleep or during sleep ? Have others solved that issue ? Thanks for your tips.

Hi, As I’m French I’m pleased to share my experience of diaper buying in France. Personaly I use "Absodys" night diapers which are available in all Carrefour supermarkets for 11 euros (20 diapers), and "Abena Abrilet" liners which I purchase in a medical store called "Médinov" in Lyon. Absodys night diapers are quite thick and pleasant to wear, although they lack the plastic cover. If the crinkling is important for you, you should go to a Leader Price supermarket and buy a pack of Helen Harper adult diapers (about 8 euros for 12 diapers) : their soft plastic cover is just great ! Have a nice trip to France. With lots of Love, Totophe

Thank you for these sensible answers. From now on cleanliness and hygiene will be the norm for me, and I'm done with Forrest Grant's nonesense.

How can I keep urinary infections at bay if I go on regularly wetting my diapers at night ? Urinary infections are way too painful and I'd rather quit my kink than endure them.

In his book "The Joy of bedwetting" ,Forrest Grant keeps lecturing the reader about the need to live in an environment drenched with urine that you never (or very seldom) clean, including a pee-stained matress., if you want to ever achieve nocturnal enuresis... The reality that I have experienced at following that route is that it is extremely unhealthy to sleep regularly in a pee-wet bedding which just dries in the day but is not regularly washed. I am now enduring my second urinary infection in the night_time diaper training that I"ve been following in the last 7 months, and this one is particularly painful, making me strongly doubt my initial choice. Isn't the simple well-being of a painfree life infinitely more precious than realising a kink ? Shouldn't I rather limit that kink to risk-free sessions at home rather than seeking a nocturnal incontinence which might ruin my health and make my whole life pain-ridden and miserable ? Anyway, that living-in-never-cleaned-pee business of Forrest Grant 's is just a dangerous load of rubish, and I'm using that word only to remain polite...

IN FRENCH : Bonjour tout le monde ! Est-ce qu'il y a des ABDL de France sur Daily Diapers ? Manifestez-vous ! Gos bisous, Totophe ENGLISH TRANSLATION: Hello everybody, Are there any ABDLs from France on Daily Diapers ? Let us know about you ! Big kiss Totophe

Thank you very much indeed, GermanDiaperNerd. Your advice sounds first rate, and I'm sure I'm on the right way with the right tips to achieve my goal. Big hug from Totophe

Thank you very much, BettyPoo. That first-hand experience is going to be a huge help. Big hug from Totophe

Thank you very much, Bettypooh. I'll give it a thought, but I'd rather not run the risk of offending some "natural" bedwetters who bear a grudge on those who want to become bedwetters... Thank you so much, Stevewet. I'm probably going about it the right way after all, and it's just a matter of patience. I probably shouldn't expect the first "naturaly" wet nights before mid sptember at least. Of course, I'd rather keep my day-time continence, and I'll have to keep an eye on what's going on during the day. But I'm pretty confident that my home-made hypnosis makes it clear to my subcoscious that wetting is good during sleep only.

How long have you been training at bedwetting, Peetpantsx ? What are you doing in your training ? What results have you reached so far ? Big hug from Totophe

Whereas full incontinence programs (and especially the 12 month program) cover much space on this forum and are easy to browse, FINDING PRACTICAL INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO BECOME A BEDWETTER is very difficult and tedious, as the posts are scarse and scattered in tens of pages. Of course, the ideal solution would be to create a specific forum for that, which would be separate from "incontinent-desires", for those who wish to wet the bed unconsciously but who want to keep their day-time continence. The issue is specific enough to deserve a specific forum. Personally, I've been training to become a bedwetter for about 7 weeks now, and although I now manage to pee fairly easily in any position when conscious in bed, going at the slightest impulse, I don't think that I have wet unconsciously even once. How long did it take for those who trained specifically to become bedwetters (without training to lose day-time continence) ? Was there a period during which nothing seemed to be changing ? I just think that it would be great to share our bedwetter training experience in a single place (possibly on this Topic) which would be easy to access and rich in varied content. A nice hug and lots of love from Totophe

Hello guy ! Does anybody know if it's possible to get to pooping my diapers unconsciously in sleep, while keeping my daytime bowel continence ? Thanks a lot for your future replies ! Chris

Thanks, Rusty Pin. God bless you. Totophe (Chris)

Thank you everybody for your advice. But the snag is that we're talking about my General Practitioner, whom I see almost every month, who is in charge of prescribing me my medicines for diabetes and for hypertension. She's not a diabetologist in a hospital that I'm not going to see again, but she's the excellent diagnostician that I took a long time to find, when my former GP made his diagnosis and his prescription in 10 minutes with amazing frivolity... Now, in France (my home country), most General Practitioners have to attend 5 or 6 patient an hour to make ends meet, and those who keep exercising real medicine are increasingly rare... I just can't afford Doctor L. to turn me out because I would be telling her about my fetish, or because I would be refusing exams and treatment about a reflex incontinence... She's a rather bossy lady who gets cross when you don't follow her instructions precisely, but she's an excellent practitionner when careful prescription, observation and patience are required to adjust a treatment for hypertension or type2 diabetes... She takes the time to ask questions to balance all sorts of possible causes, which most GPs unfortunately no longer do... You may be disappointed with me for an opposit reason : I'm eventually dropping the idea of going 24/7 diaper-dependent for the moment ... Because now there's another reason why 24/7 wearing no longer seems feasable for me, and especially at work (I'm a junior high-school teacher). In fact, I am too often confronted with itchings on my skin in the diaper-area, and scratching discreetly is made impossible by the thickness of the diaper (although I have been trying thinner solutions over the week-end). Rather than going mad with an itching that I can't stop by scratching myself, I'd rather drop the idea of wearing diapers 24/7 at all ... Now I'd be content with merely becoming a bed-wetter while keeping my day-time continence if it is possible. I'm going to start a thread to enquire about it on the "Incontinent Desires" section of the Incontinence - Medical Forum. Thank you all for the replies that you kindly wrote, even though I'm changing my route. Anyway that was a useful discussion, and it can give precious insights into the ploblematics of medical visits to those who would have to deal with it. Big hugs to everybody. Chris (Totophe)

Hi there fellow ABDL ! After spending several days trying to work out the practical side of 24/7 diaper wearing and wetting, I have come to the conclusion that the comfort would not balance the incomfort for me, and I have eventually dropped the idea at all. Initially, I had thought of losing day-time continence as a means to achieve bed-wetting, which is my real goal. DO YOU THINK THAT I CAN REACH THAT GOAL AND BECOME A BED-WETTER WHILE KEEPING MY DAY-TIME CONTINENCE ? How should I go about it ? What is the specific training (or reprogrammation) for that ? Is it possible to train my bladder sphyncter to regress to the newborn automatic functioning while asleep in my bed, and to switch back to grown-up functioning when I'm awake ? How long may it take to achieve that goal ? Do you know efficient hypnosis MP3s which could help me with that ? Thanking you wholeheartedly in advance, nice hugs to everybody, Chris (Totophe)

Dear Rusty Pin, thank you for your thorough reply. Of course you weren't trying to be humiliating, but you were giving general advice as to the possible dangers of my situation, which anybody should follow in similar circumstances. Now you may be disappointed with me for an opposit reason : I'm eventually dropping the idea of going 24/7 diaper-dependent for the moment ... In fact, I am too often confronted with itchings on my skin in the diaper-area, and scratching discreetly is made impossible by the thickness of the diaper (although I have been trying thinner solutions over the week-end). Rather that going mad with an itching that I can't stop by scratching myself, I'd rather drop the idea of wearing diapers 24/7 at all ... Now I'd be content with merely becoming a bed-wetter while keeping my day-time continence if it is possible. I'm going to start a thread to enquire about it on the "Incontinent Desires" section of the Incontinence - Medical Forum. Good night (when it is time in the USA, 8 hours after us or so) Chris

Thank you very much for your long answer, rusty pin. It's helping me greatly to relieve any sense of guilt as to wearing diapers in class just a protection to avoid wetting my pants. I just feel humiliated that you take it for granted that I am indulging sexual arousal in class however discreetly, WHICH I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT. I'm not a pedophile and I just couldn't be sexually aroused in the presence of kids. The mere idea of it would be too disgusting to make any sexual arousal possible. I may have been surprised once by the pleasant feeling of warm pee running on my skin while teaching, but there was nothing sexual about it : just the same as the comfortable feeling of warm water running on your hands. But apart from that, I'm very happy with your answer as it confirms what I've already been experiencing in the last week : that overcoming embarassment is indeed possible and that my pursuing the holy grale of permanent incontinence may perfectly be compatible with my unaltered involvement in my professional passion of teaching, finding clever ways of explaining grammatical difficulties, providing my students with amazingly efficient tips for learning English as a foreign language . Don't worry, I have never felt like letting my students know about my wearing diapers and I will do everything possible to keep them ignoring it. As to my headmistress, I know that she wouldn't mind my discreetly wearing diapers for medical reasons, because 3 years ago, in the last month before my prostate operation, when I asked her if I should go on teaching until the day before the operation discreetly wearing diapers in class or if she'd rather I had a sick leave, she clearly told me that it would be better to go on teaching. Your reply has helped me be assured that whatever pleasant and reassuring comfort I may feel wearing a diaper to school and not having to be stressed about holding my pee, that is not sexual arousal, I needn't feel ashamed of it, and in fact it allows me to concentrate better on the job, relieved of the risk of scary wet spots. Thank you again.

I am on the diaper training path, wearing 24/7 to become incontinent, and I wonder if I will make it to keep my underware dry when I go to the Doctor's in a month time. I attend my doctor every 3 months to adjust my prescription for the medicine for my type II diabetes, and I just can't remember if she asks me to strip my trousers before stepping on the scales. If my doctor asks me to remove my pants, do you think I could CONCEAL A DIAPER OR TRAINING PANTS UNDER MY BOXERS without her suspecting anything ? And if she does sight my diaper, how can I AVOID HER PRESCRIBING ME EXAMS AND TREATMENTS for reflex incontinence ? Thank you very much for your ideas. Totophe

Hello rusty pins, First of all, I'd like to thank you whole-heartedly for your dedication to the ABDL community's psychological comfort, and especially for your Wikihow pages which are very helpful. You're an angel in our community. I'm a 54 year old single Frenchman teaching English as a Foreign language in a junior high-school in France. I've been an ABDL since I was a teen, and now, I have decided to go wearing 24/7, partly for safety reasons because the anti-hypertensive medicine that I have to take gives me frequent urges to pee, and partly for the pleasure and reassuring comfort of it. I must say that these urges to pee are partly caused by my personal reverse-kegel training which I often do to help me become a bedwetter. Then, since my prostate operation 3 years ago, the dribbling after peeing has worsened, and the 20 minutes after peeing in the toilet have become critical. So, my life-spoiling FEELING OF GUILT WHEN TEACHING MY KIDS IN A DIAPER is a complex thing to deal with, because I'm not really fully incontinent and with an effort I could make it without wearing a diaper in class, especially if I stopped my reverse-kegel trainings. If I were really incontinent there would be the "You have no option but wear a diaper" notion that would help me greatly. But while teaching, THE PLEASURE OF THE WARM PEE RUNNING IN MY DIAPER (although I'm merely noticing that pleasure and not dwelling on it) makes me FEEL SHAME AND GUILT. Am I not BETRAYING MY STUDENTS' TRUST in me ? JUST HOW GROSS would my students find me if they knew about it ? And by the way, just how suspicious is the UNUSUAL SHAPE OF MY TROUSERS BOTTOM, with the material making DUBIOUS FOLDS on my backsides because of the diaper and liner beneath ? My students know that I'm having chronic health issues as the previous anti-hypertensive that I took made me so sick that my doctor had to give me a medical leave. WOULD THEY ACCEPT MY HAVING TO WEAR DIAPERS BECAUSE OF MEDICAL REASONS (although it isn't quite true) or would they still think it's gross and I shoudn't be teaching at all ?... I love my job and I have a huge respect for my students. Until recently, I always kept my ABDL life and my teaching life quite separate, and I just wonder if I can keep doing so mentally while wearing diapers to school. I would be very happy if you could give me advice about what to do in my situation. But it is clear that if I want to become a bedwetter, I must first lose day-time continence. Should I just give up the idea of becoming a bed-wetter ? Thank you very much again. Chris NB: I've been using capital letters to help the reader locate the different topics in that long message, for easier reading. No aggressiveness is meant at all, contrary to what the studid code of "Netiquette" used to rule. Capital letters are just an ideal way of providing the reader with comfortable landmarks, instead of being confronted with a discouraging sea of lower case characters.

Thank you for your conratulations, Creepymouse. Baby Totophe blushes at it but he loves it ! Is your girl-friend ok with your diaper-desires and is it just a matter of keeping your children unaware of them ? When do you expect to be able to fully enjoy diapers ? Your kids might aswell accept that their Dad's got

Hi there guys ! I'm trying to boost my nighttime incontinence project by a bit of daytime training. I'm doing reversed kegel training by straining my pelvic floor muscles outward and downwards

Hi ! Remember me ? I'm the French guy who wrote in pale blue last September about starting an un-potty training route towards permanent bedwetting. After encouraging results mastering the relaxation of my sphincter (almost to the point of possible accidents in daytime), I had to quit for a while, due to

Just to reassure those who kindly expressed their concern about that automaic sphincter opening

Thank you for your concern, Rob110. But don't worry, I'm not having my sphincter surgically damaged, and according to the experience that several persons on this website have had, pursuing the same route to only night-time incontinence, this is a possible thing and a reversible thing... It seems that it takes 4 month to start achieving the bedwetting result, and I have plenty of time to see if it's carrying me the wrong way. I think I'm going to stop my regular day-time training at all, or just limit it to two or three times a week, and maybe just for one hour each time. Anyway, I'm definitely not going to get to the point of risking peeing my pants in class. I'm not mad. Take care, Totophe