sunwutian

I wish we could have one single forum where we could discuss incontinence desires without having to constantly put up with people telling us that we don't actually want that.

That seems to happen all the time here. Our UPS driver thought we were buying infant diapers in bulk. I doubt they take the time to consider the size of each diaper as it's folded up inside the package. But if the order slip fell out or they were particularly nosy, then you're out of luck.

Nobody really understands the reason why, anymore than why they like diapers at all, or are the sexual orientation that they are. It just is what it is. We constantly have people telling us "you really don't want to be incontinent" as if it's a spur of the moment thought for us. But for a lot of us, we effectively -have- been by way of wearing 24/7 for years if not decades. We know what it's like to have to always have a change, to sometimes leak, etcetera. And we are happy with that lifestyle.

babyhuey123, how did you manage to become bowel incontinent? It seems to need more than just going whenever you feel the urge.

"None of your business" really only works on people you don't know. I'd probably say I had spina bifida if asked. Nice and simple. Something you'd have all your life, so it's not likely you'd have a recent doctor's diagnosis of it if asked by an employer.

Yay, another person telling me I don't actually want to be incontinent, even though I've gone 24/7 for the last twelve years now. Thanks, but please don't project your own unhappiness with incontinence onto others. I get that for some it's a fleeting fantasy, but many of us have spent several years simulating this. Along with all of its downsides. And we're still happy with it.

Current batch definitely beats the previous one. But it's still about an inch shorter in length (back to front) on the mediums than the second to last batch, and the plastic outer shell is less soft than it used to be. Closer to a shower-curtain feeling. The inside is as soft as it's ever been, absorbs fine, hollow inner channel is thankfully gone, doesn't clump, doesn't leak. Tapes still don't and never have held well for me, have to use clear tape to keep them on for more than 1-2 hours.

The shorter padding length is also a huge issue. They took at least an inch out of the front and back. If you compare new and old, there's a huge empty plastic space now.

A lot simpler here. Continence is also a lack of control over your body. You have no say in the matter, your body defaults to retaining. Builds pressure, harder to go lying down, can't go at all while asleep so can wake you up at night, requires a conscious effort to release that can result in flooding and increase proneness to leaks.

Figured I would share this here, too. Many people experience the new manufacturer's product (with the glossy front panel) tearing down the middle on the back frequently. Bambino obviously won't announce this problem publicly, because they order massive batches and would have to stop selling them. Devastating for a small business. I've been experimenting and found a way to prevent it from happening. If you use clear box packing tape and wrap it entirely around yourself horizontally, so that it covers the tape tabs on the front and also covers the entire back, it prevents the back from being able to stretch enough apart to split. Since doing this, I've not had a single split happen. Has an added bonus of preventing their weak tape tabs from popping off. Get the cheapest clear tape you can, a $2 roll can last for an entire case. I have also tried vertical tape down the back, but this does not work. It will tear on the edge of the tape now instead, even if you use multiple vertical strips of tape. Sad that we have to do this, but oh well.

Clear packing tape works, but is costly. A cheaper alternative is to use a stapler: one on the back panel, one on the front, for each tape. Surprisingly, this doesn't cause any discomfort at all. Don't even notice they're there.

I will attempt to translate: "I have a sentient container that could care less about the ancient Sumerian city of Ur. I apologize for the general mood of this city. In reference to the one-dozen errors that I have made: we need more people like the letter U inside of the world. It makes the world so happy to meet people who appreciate the letter U. It's as if this letter U; who is unaware of my existence; also happily instant messages people who also enjoy the letter U. In reference to my grasp on reality, there are nameless individuals who would say that it is very good. Often, I send instant messages to express my happiness with life. In closing, an anonymous benefactor hopes that the letter U has been made aware of the past perfect tense of this post."

Agreed. We lose the right to complain when the medical folks post anti-incontinence messages in our forums when we post these sorts of things in theirs. I wonder if it would help to make the "Incontinence - Desires" a main-level forum, rather than a sub-forum of the medical version? May help alleviate some confusion for newer posters.

If it were a white disposable, I doubt anyone would even notice the texture and just assume it was underwear. If it were decorated plastic pants, or the hole was right over the tapes, or very very large, maybe.

I keep waiting for Brawny to enter the US adult incontinence market. I suspect they'd wipe the floor with Kimberly Clark.

Many people are unable to achieve incontinence despite wearing 24/7 for several years.

I ordered from HDIS for a while in the past. One time they sent me a case of Attends that had the huge Attends logo right on the side of the box. Covered about 80% of the box's surface area. And I had to pick it up from the apartment office, too. Nobody said anything, thank god. I've gotten a few shipments over the years with the boxes damaged enough to expose one of the diapers to the air, and I've had some that looked so unbelievably and obviously re-taped that I can't help but feel someone opened it up to see what it was. I would recommend you to get a PO box, preferably one that accepts UPS/FedEx shipments, and have your AB/DL supplies sent there. You can never really trust that a company will be discrete. Some are really bad. I've heard horror stories like from Adam & Eve (sex toys), they will send you a discrete package, and automatically sign you up for their very, very explicit right on the cover mail-order catalog. Best not to risk it. If you're meaning you are overseas, well, good luck :/

I've heard of people wearing them 23/7 in BDSM relationships, so I don't think it's likely to cause any serious harm. But that is pretty rare, so perhaps that is a valid point. And yes, small chance it may cause incontinence which is bad, but if you already are, it'd be like a bladder incontinent person turning down that magnet-powered catheter drain device because it might make them incontinent. But if it's not a muscle issue already, it could worsen things by making two problems instead of one. Only bad thing I've heard about chlorophyll tablets is that it removes some of the good digestive bacteria, but not enough to be dangerous. Okay, so to understand: 1. it's too uncomfortable 2. can potentially have bad health effects 3. charcoal beats chlorophyll in reducing smells anyway I guess if it were practical there'd be more examples of management in this fashion. Thanks for the input, guys.

It's kind of like wearing a diaper in public. The first time you know it's there and can't stop thinking about it, but eventually you forget you're even wearing one. If you use a plug enough, you won't even notice it after a while. I'd consider it less unpleasant than the feeling of being messy when you don't want to be. The food thing is probably true. Speaking from personal experience, I haven't been able to change my diet to help with heartburn, I'd rather just take the omeprazole and calcium tablets than eat things I do not like. But for reducing smells, adjusting diet would have a higher importance. As far as keeping it in possibly being bad, definitely, but consider that's what continent people automatically do for 8-24 hours a day It would be used until you needed to go, and taken out for that, and put back in after. It'd basically simulate the closed muscle and give you a form of continence, or control.

Sorry, I wasn't meaning to imply anything of the sort. I was going off some other posts from other ICs here saying that to the "want to be IC" people, about how it tends to make some people agoraphobic and such. I happen to agree that life is what you make of it, but not being incontinent myself I don't want to say anything about it not being so bad, so as not to offend and because frankly I don't know what it's like no matter how much I wear and 'act' 24/7. That said I wouldn't want to be bowel incontinent anyway. My question was more, is a plug a viable option of preventing messing while in public, or is there a reason why it is not? I can't find any info on one being used in this manner, and it seems like the smartest choice, at least to me. I know first-hand those chlorophyll tablets do not really work very well.

More a medical question, but I don't want to offend anyone as I'm not incontinent myself, so I'll post here. I've been looking for info on this but couldn't find anything but a patent mention on the idea. So for those who are completely bowel incontinent ... I read about not being able to go out much, not going to restaurants or movies, and immediately having to change and such. I'm sympathetic and sorry for such a condition, so I hope this doesn't come off as insensitive. My question is, wouldn't you be able to prevent messing accidents by using a plug only while in public and never more than 12 hours in a row? Understandably it would be uncomfortable at first, but certainly nowhere near as bad as actually messing in public by accident, right? I'm curious if that is a valid management method, or if there is some reason why this wouldn't work or be dangerous? I know long-term use could be an issue causing constipation, but if you took it out frequently it shouldn't be a problem. And obviously one with IBS (painful to hold in) or only partial control issues (could exacerbate problem) wouldn't want to do this.