lil jenny

as the description says i need to find a cheep but effective diaper. i dont really mind if it is thick or small. would prefer thick just because i love the fluffiness. but it dosnt matter. as for price i jsut need to find any that arnt so expensiv stocking up on them would be imposable. any and all help would be appreciated. not to mention i you could, maby link it after saying the price so i can see what it is first would be helpful.

my personel take on this is..... he knows you ware... and in simple terms... say daddy was hurt and needs the extra protection of the diapers in case. so like other big boys. he should learn to use the potty. but you are not like other big boys because you were hurt

*wimerps* i havent had time to read it all tell jsut now..... but me watns more.. more more more MORE... pwease with shuger on top

we only feel shame because it is thought to us. by society, if we do not teach our kids that it is shame ful to love things to be gay or any thing there in if we teach them not to be ashamed of it then th erest of the world woul dbe a better place.

you know i agree with that statment

well yeah. it has been a long time sence i could. and i have had a lot of "life" to deal with. btw "life" is the best way to describe it. the things that you know are going to happen no matter what hehe. but yah. i guess it isnt that wierd. but whenever i am sad or bumed out.. or jsut feeling blah. i feel that a good diapering would make it all better.

as the description says. am i the only one who thinks that a good diapering will solve a lot of my problems about being sad and stuff.

this guy is using a lot of the natonel problems...... to fix the local ones. there are to meny people who think that being tg is wrong and agenst gods will and such.... and then there is the ignorint people who dont care and dont want to learn aobut it.

....... drew. i know you said on another post that you are just trying to be the devels advocet. but evry time you speak of these things it seems as though you dont know what it is have these problems.

mope not confused at all.. all people are unique in there own way. i applaud both of you for embracing thouse sides of you and sticking together. with so many sticklers to the socialist norms, we lose track of what makes us happy. *giggles* and horny. because of this a lot of people feel they cant let out who they truly are because all they want is to be accepted. *hugs tight and pats your diaper to check it* uh ohhs you need a change

well to tell yo the truth i first came out to my self but after that i broke down and told my brother. who at the time was suportive. he has been a but head as of late buit that is what big brothers are for am i right

*wimpers* lucky bums i dont have that kind of luck.. but i am happy for you *hugs*

still think you is lucky and wish i was that lucky

awww * hugs* dat stinks. wish dat it wasnt so much work to be able to be who we are

why do you sapose that is that they are going to deny it ?

to clarify what i was saying and answer your question. i personally haven't been in every situation that is horrible for every one. but i do have friends and family i see it happening to right in front of my eyes. and for the clarification i meant that gays had it hard women and blacks too when they were fighting for there rights. and right now, it is our fight, and it is just as hard as the ones before it.

*hugs tight * well i can see i am not the only one that think there are some ignorant people out there. i wanted to say the same thing but i haven't been threw as much as you have been * hugs again* well physically that is.

*hugs* freta you hit the nail on the head.. as for drew. non tg's don't have the same problems that tg's do. they will get attacked hurt and a bunch of other things you have stated. we all have a hard life to live, yes that is true, but for tg people it is even harder. have you been molested in the past. if so then you know how hard it is to deal with a mental brake that effects every thing you do. for tg people it is the same, in the aspect that we have to deal with feeling like we are in the wrong body, a lot of us think of suicide to end the hurt that growing up with out being able to be yourself brings. i know i have, to many times to count. but i never went threw with it because many reasons. as we grow up, we have the norms ev2ry one wants us to fallow. an example, probably been over used, but it is still true is the little boys who want to play with dolls. or even girls who want to do boy activities. mostly the girls are allowed to do it, at least now they are. but a boy who plays with dolls is considered gay or there is something wrong with him.... the mother or father don't care what he might be. whether it may be a tg or gay or whatnot. they just want him to be normal, as in a boy doing boy things and nothing else. this in and of itself is what causes a lot of tg's problems because there family doesn't want them to be themselves or be happy doing what they want. the boy grows up hurting inside, and most don't reach the age of 15 with out ending it.... or at least trying to. most of the pain comes from trying to figure out how to tell there family. say you are gay. don't know if you are drew or not, but that isnt the point. if you are, have you told your family, and if so how hard was it. i am betting pretty hard. well it is just as hard if not harder for a tg person. being gay or bi or a lesbian in the past 20 or so years has become acceptable... being a tg on the other hand is still a long way off from being acceptable how ever it is becoming acceptable to a lesser degree. we don't have much protection in the workplace. much like minority's don't. because in truth being tg is very similar to being a minority. and yes i am using the mtf tg perspective because a lot of the ftm tg people have it a bit less rough. still rough none the less. and no offense drew but even though you say you want to understand, with every example we give prof for, you wont accept them or you come up with some kind of excuse as to why you wont accept it.. i can understand the not wanting to hear: i heard about this that and the other. but that doesn't mean that it isn't true. now don't take me wrong, i am not trying to bash you, i am just trying to let you know that it is my opinion that how you are stating things, is contradictory to what you are saying you want to do. and one final note quoting you. "You want to know the BS things we had to do to get someone fired who was of a race other than white? We had to build a flippin' case on people of minority before we'd fire them showing how poor there work ethic was, write ups, theft, whatever it was before we could fire them because they always tend to pull out the race card and say this was the reason for termination. A white guy does one thing wrong, we fire him, no case, no questions asked because that card isn't in his deck. Also for hiring, a minority interviews, we almost had to hire them over someone more qualified in fear of them calling the county on us screaming discrimination. How BS is that???" i agree people pulling out the race card is total bs, and so would pulling the tg card if they were being fired for poor work ethic and stuff. but in truth a lot of us have a good work ethic, and don't steel or do any of the bad things that would get us fired, so when we get fired and we do good work. what else could be the reason for it. and yes there are some times it can be lay offs and stuff but that is only true when there is lots of people being fired. but as i was saying, there are so many ways for a tg person to be fired, for any reason and have no protection for it. there is protection for racism in the work place, and agents being fired because of it. and i am pretty sure sense you had to hire and fire people you know about those protections. but tg people don't have them, or at the very least they aren't widely known, so we cant use them to save our butts.

wow that is cool... wish i was near you hehe then i could get some help with out paying boocoo bucks ..

you are right. and all i have ever been trying to say is that we don't want special treatment we just want to be able to be safe. the only reason i would want a lock. or something for said bathroom is if i need some place to go to cry. or be alone. but even then that is a bit much.

oh ps. the thing is that we aren't trying to get a separate bathroom. and or special privileges. we are only trying to get a safe place that we can be ourselves. if we cant go in to the girls bathrooms or boys for that matter. because the boys or girls in there don't want us in there and that happens all to often. same can happen all over the place. if a employer says i don't want him because he is a tg then guess what we cant do any thing about it. as per normal.. but now say we are hired and they only find out after the fact that we are tg. well they can fire us because they them selves have a problem with it.. but not the rest of the company. now any of the people in the company say they have a problem with us dressing as a girl wail at work during our transition, they can fire us to there too. that isn't the same rights as every one else.

obviously you didn't get what i was saying. my first point was that in fact, most people won't care. but in the wrong areas they do and they will hurt people. and as for rights. we tgs don't have any protection from being fired. just because we are tg. or because we are trying to do our transition wail working. or wearing any clothing for women, and for that matter for going in to the girls bathroom at work, even if i dress as a girl, but i would still be in my transition and the girls in there could say i don't want her in there. which means. guess what. i would have to go to the boys bathroom... and they say the same thing... well what happens then. ware am i to go. and it dose happen, because a lot of society is afraid of any thing that goes agents what they have been brought up to believe. when you say " Now if you all start posting stories of how it all happened to you, first of all, I will not believe all of you, second, if you post stories about I heard it happened to someone, that is not credible either just because there are probably just as many stories out there of average Joes getting beat too." what dose that leave us... no way of proving to some one that it happens. because you wont believe it even if we have the prof right in front of us. the extremes don't always happen, but they do happen. as for all of us out there that have started the process. we don't want it to end to soon because of something bad. we want it to go smoothly and as fast as possible so we can be happy and feel like we are normal people. but with so many people out there, they don't want us to be able to be that.

you know that makes me happy to know that thare are still a few girls out there who see other girls in people and not just what is on the outside. or for that matter boys *giggels* for the ftm tg people out there.

awwwww * wimpers* you is lucky wish i was dat lucky lol

i personally haven't been able to find any one close to ware i live at all. and am not the richest person in the world so even if i do go to one. i probably couldn't pay for it for a long time. but i wanted to say that for all of us... the best therapy we can have is others like us. to talk to others who know how we feel and or who have been to the dark places we have been and come out smelling of roses...... so to speak.. yes we need to talk to the docs. but at least if we have others like us to talk to people that understand on a personal level then we can keep going. know what i mean