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So im at work today and sign on my aim sn i use just for diaper stuff. I soon get an Im, so I ask the guy how old he is, he tells me 54 so I want to get rid of him so I tell him im 15. He then still wants to talk. I decide to fuck with him as I have nothing better to do. I saved the convo for all to read. Note my SN is kitt82ta.

WetDBoy: hi

KITT82TA: hey

WetDBoy: ho u been

KITT82TA: good

KITT82TA: who is this?

WetDBoy: cool

WetDBoy: im bob

KITT82TA: ?

WetDBoy: we met on db a while back i believe

KITT82TA: ok

WetDBoy: i know it been long time though

KITT82TA: ok

KITT82TA: how old r u?

WetDBoy: im 54

WetDBoy: u

KITT82TA: 15

WetDBoy: oh i thought u were like 25

WetDBoy: is it still ok to chat

KITT82TA: nope

KITT82TA: if u want to

WetDBoy: ok

WetDBoy: i wear cus i like to

WetDBoy: i have been for long time

WetDBoy: i know u prolly hafta wear and im sorry

KITT82TA: do u just want to fuck me?

KITT82TA: I saw the 20 20 special

WetDBoy: noooooooooo

KITT82TA: my dad does, he had been since I was like 7

WetDBoy: wat

WetDBoy: god damn it

KITT82TA: yeah

WetDBoy: im so sorry

WetDBoy: that is so bad

KITT82TA: y

WetDBoy: u dad shouldnt be doing stuff to u

KITT82TA: it used to hurt but doesnt anymore, just sometime i cant poop right after words

KITT82TA: i dont bleed anymore either

WetDBoy: oh man

WetDBoy: u gotta stop that it not right kiddo

KITT82TA: o

WetDBoy: do u like dad doing that to u

KITT82TA: sometimes

KITT82TA: he also take pics of me and has been for a while

WetDBoy: damn

WetDBoy: thats porn and illegal

KITT82TA: would u like to see it?

WetDBoy: oh god

WetDBoy: he shouldnt be doin this to u

KITT82TA: ?

WetDBoy: in a way i do, but u shouldnt

KITT82TA: what do u wanna see?

WetDBoy: i dont care

KITT82TA: do u wanna see a new one or an old one?

WetDBoy: new one i guess

WetDBoy: wait

KITT82TA: do u want it with my dad in the pic to or just me?

WetDBoy: dad

KITT82TA: ok

KITT82TA: shit my dads home i g2g

WetDBoy: ok

WetDBoy: we talk sometime ok

KITT82TA: cya

WetDBoy: bye

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OK, I find this REALLLY CREAPY. The adult should have KNOWN limits, he agreed to see a picture of somebody who said they were under 18, never asking what the picture would be of. not to mention he said he wanted a picture with the dad in it too.

I PM'd the original poster with a suggestion of what he should do.

I would suggest that everybody keep a log of the creapy conversations

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Pardon my French:

Fuck "this guy gives US (AB/DL's) a bad name"-- this guy gives chat rooms in GENERAL a bad name. This moron needs to have his online access taken away, until some LONG time after he gets some serious psychological help. What a creep! Anybody over the age of 18 that engages with a conversation like this with somebody who's TOLD them they're under 18.... man, case closed. What an idiot.

wv

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Alright fucking stop for a second.

Pampers you act like you were the innocent there when you instigated alot of the bullshit, then pawn it off as though that guy was slobbering over you the instant he IMed you. He even asked if it was still ok to talk, and you still fucking pull moronic pranks like that.

I mean god damn, its people like you that give us a bad name not him. Just because he wanted to see porn of you doesn't make him the bad guy, it makes him a creepy old man. In retrospect how many old men are not creepy when you get right down to it. You on the other hand were goading him into the actions, its utterly irresponsible of you to do that.

Go back to your fucking hole you tard, I certainly don't want asswipes like you around telling fallacies then acting like its somebody elses fault when you dig yourself into a lie you can't easily escape.

And would it kill you to use some semblance of proper grammer? I mean it doesn't have to be perfect, but some punctuation goes a long way...

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What i said but alot more effective. Thanks for expanding on that point, im glad it wasnt just me who thought he was in the wrong.

Alright fucking stop for a second.

Pampers you act like you were the innocent there when you instigated alot of the bullshit, then pawn it off as though that guy was slobbering over you the instant he IMed you. He even asked if it was still ok to talk, and you still fucking pull bullshit like that.

I mean god damn, its people like you that give us a bad name not him. Just because he wanted to see porn of you doesn't make him the bad guy, it makes him a creepy old man. In retrospect how many old men are not creepy when you get right down to it. You on the other hand were goading him into the actions, its utterly irresponsible of you to do that.

Go back to your fucking hole you tard, I certainly don't want asswipes like you around telling fallacies then acting like its somebody elses fault when you dig yourself into a hole.

And would it kill you to use some semblance of proper grammer? I mean it doesn't have to be perfect, but some punctuation goes a long way...

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So im at work today and sign on my aim sn i use just for diaper stuff. I soon get an Im, so I ask the guy how old he is, he tells me 54 so I want to get rid of him so I tell him im 15.

First lie on your part

WetDBoy: we met on db a while back i believe

KITT82TA: ok

WetDBoy: i know it been long time though

KITT82TA: ok

KITT82TA: how old r u?

WetDBoy: im 54

WetDBoy: u

KITT82TA: 15

WetDBoy: oh i thought u were like 25

Only reason he PM you was he thought you were 25.

WetDBoy: i know u prolly hafta wear and im sorry

KITT82TA: do u just want to fuck me?

Who started this?

I needed to "expand" a little more.

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KITT82TA: how old r u?

WetDBoy: im 54

WetDBoy: u

KITT82TA: 15

WetDBoy: oh i thought u were like 25

And that's where the old fuck should have said "Later". Regardless of whatever Kitt said after that (and a lot of it was goading), he did say he was only 15, right up front. My finger would have been on the "close" button as soon as I heard that.

wv

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So just because a person belonging to a group where they openly talk says they are 15, you can't have any kind of discussion (totally non-sexial* remember kitt turned that road not wet)

I guess than when am away it is wrong to IM my 14yr son or 16 yr neice?

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So just because a person belonging to a group where they openly talk says they are 15, you can't have any kind of discussion (totally non-sexual* remember kitt turned that road not wet)

I'm not condoning what kitt said to the guy... kitt was being purposefully provocative, looking for a response-- and he got one.

What I'm saying is, as soon as the guy knew he was talking to a 15 year old, he should have gotten out-- or at the VERY least, he should have been VERY careful about where the subject matter was going. He didn't; he let Kitt start going on about being raped by his dad, and then instead of saying "That's too bad, I'm sorry, I hope you get out of that terrible situation", the guy actually wanted to see pics... man, fucking no way!

A 50 year old guy, talking to a 15 year old, bears ALL the responsibility for the course and subject matter of the chat. So, ok, maybe the guy didn't have to instantly hang up on Kitt as soon as Kitt said he was 15-- but to allow the conversation to get into those graphic, sexual areas was WRONG (not to mention wanting pics, Jesus Christ that's fucking sick); it was totally wrong on the guy's part. As soon as it got to that, he needed to back off. He didn't; he encouraged it; ergo, he's a sick fuck.

Blaming Kitt because of the things he told the guy would be like blaming a rape victim because she was dressed provocatively. No, sorry-- I can't get behind that, man. Being adult means being in control of your urges. Being adult means not exploiting or manipulating a child for one's sexual gratification. Being adult means saying "I'm sorry, but I'm not comfortable talking about this with you," and changing the subject, or logging out.

Anyway, that's what I would do. I understand that I don't make the rules for everybody... but I control my own behavior. So does this guy-- and he didn't.

I guess than when am away it is wrong to IM my 14yr son or 16 yr neice?

Oh, come on... surely you're not saying chatting with your own family members is no different than running into some 15-year-old kid in a chat room? There's an obvious difference, ddby :huh:

just my .02

:beer:

wv

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Pampersboy, are you crazy doing this stuff on the computers at work? :o

"The hell with what you guys talked about, lets talk about what’s important"

Haven’t you ever heard of things like PC anywhere and Remote desktop? I don’t know how big your company is but Administrators in companies not only can see what your doing in real time, but there are log files with very detailed information as to every site you’ve went to and what you’ve clicked on depending on how the admin sets up the sever in the organization. Some admins even log what employee’s type on the key boards, not common but it happens.

Dude, even if you clear the history on that computer at work, the server in the company probably has log files of everything you’ve done.

That could destroy your work history when you’re out looking for a new job.

Bro, don’t use the computers at your work for this tuff, unless its a very small company and people are ok with that. Not that your doing anything bad but there are a ton of stuped closed minded people in this world that don’t understand DL/s and AB/s :excl:

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The company I work for is very small, Me and one other guy run the network so Im not worried about it. As for being innocent im not saying I am. I wanted to fuck witht he guy bc I knew he wanted one thing and it was stated. Why the hell would a 54 yo man want to take to an underage kid? I made it clear I was underage. I dont even think. I think he got my name off DPF bored, thats the only place I have it posted. I dont have time for chatrooms.

I started the you just want to fuck me comment bc I knew he was after one thing and that pretty much was it.

I know it takes 2 to tango, I just wasnt in the mood to listen to the guy try to get what he wants.

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I see way too much gray area in this one. An adult talking to someone under 18 is not wrong. An adult trying to get someone underage into a sexual relationship, sharing pornographic images, etc. is.

You more or less had to goad him into saying yes to seeing pictures. From his earlier reactions he may well have wanted proof to alert authorities. I do not think this is likely, but it is the benefit of the doubt. I would see the 54 year old squarely in the wrong if the conversation had gone something like:

KITT82TA: my dad does, he had been since I was like 7

WetDBoy: that's hot

KITT82TA: yeah

WetDBoy: what do you think of it?

KITT82TA: it used to hurt but doesnt anymore, just sometime i cant poop right after words

KITT82TA: i dont bleed anymore either

WetDBoy: oh man. sounds like your dad doesn't use enough lube

KITT82TA: o

WetDBoy: do u like dad doing that to u now?

KITT82TA: sometimes

KITT82TA: he also take pics of me and has been for a while

WetDBoy: thats porn and it sounds hot

KITT82TA: would u like to see it?

WetDBoy: oh god, yes! I'd love to whack off to that shit.

KITT82TA: what do u wanna see?

WetDBoy: i love it all, anything i guess

KITT82TA: do u wanna see a new one or an old one?

WetDBoy: new one i guess

WetDBoy: wait

KITT82TA: do u want it with my dad in the pic to or just me?

WetDBoy: dad

KITT82TA: ok

KITT82TA: shit my dads home i g2g

WetDBoy: ok

WetDBoy: we talk sometime ok. well have a good time

KITT82TA: cya

WetDBoy: bye

Instead it went:

KITT82TA: my dad does, he had been since I was like 7

WetDBoy: wat

WetDBoy: god damn it

KITT82TA: yeah

WetDBoy: im so sorry

WetDBoy: that is so bad

KITT82TA: y

WetDBoy: u dad shouldnt be doing stuff to u

KITT82TA: it used to hurt but doesnt anymore, just sometime i cant poop right after words

KITT82TA: i dont bleed anymore either

WetDBoy: oh man

WetDBoy: u gotta stop that it not right kiddo

KITT82TA: o

WetDBoy: do u like dad doing that to u

KITT82TA: sometimes

KITT82TA: he also take pics of me and has been for a while

WetDBoy: damn

WetDBoy: thats porn and illegal

KITT82TA: would u like to see it?

WetDBoy: oh god

WetDBoy: he shouldnt be doin this to u

KITT82TA: ?

WetDBoy: in a way i do, but u shouldnt

KITT82TA: what do u wanna see?

WetDBoy: i dont care

KITT82TA: do u wanna see a new one or an old one?

WetDBoy: new one i guess

WetDBoy: wait

KITT82TA: do u want it with my dad in the pic to or just me?

WetDBoy: dad

KITT82TA: ok

KITT82TA: shit my dads home i g2g

WetDBoy: ok

WetDBoy: we talk sometime ok

KITT82TA: cya

WetDBoy: bye

Once again, I do think this guy sounds creepy. My question is, given a normal situation, is he just a pervert that would sit back and think about it, maybe look for some illegal porn (but not pay for it, make it, or provide it)? Without first being approached, is he really the type that would be a "predator"?

Yeah, the guy is sick, but because in this situation you approached him, not visa-versa, it is hard to tell exactly how sick this guy is. Pervert or sexual predator? Can't really answer that from this.

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I've been keeping track of this post to hear how others would respond. I clearly saw fault on both sides. My initial impression was that the guy might have wanted some proof to alert authorities, but after reading it again, and again, I don't really know. Three things stood out for me that I find troubling for the 54 year old:

First:

KITT82TA: how old r u?

WetDBoy: im 54

WetDBoy: u

KITT82TA: 15

WetDBoy: oh i thought u were like 25

WetDBoy: is it still ok to chat

Asking the 15 year old "is it still ok to chat?" is not a question an adult should be asking a 15 year old. It's not illegal, but it's just not appropriate in my view.

Second:

WetDBoy: do u like dad doing that to u

Totally inappropriate question. At this point, I think if his true intension were to help the kid, he should have said something like "I want to help you" or "can I tell the police" or words to that affect. I don't know, something other than what he said though.

Third:

KITT82TA: would u like to see it?

WetDBoy: oh god

WetDBoy: he shouldnt be doin this to u

KITT82TA: ?

WetDBoy: in a way i do, but u shouldnt

KITT82TA: what do u wanna see?

WetDBoy: i dont care

KITT82TA: do u wanna see a new one or an old one?

WetDBoy: new one i guess

Although he acts appalled, he doesn't give good advice like "you need to show that picture to the police or a teacher, not anyone else," or words to that affect.

NOW, on the other hand, diaprbayb made some good points. I won't expand on those, but I would like to add another point that I find interesting:

You said in your opening remarks:

So im at work today and sign on my aim sn i use just for diaper stuff. I soon get an Im, so I ask the guy how old he is, he tells me 54 so I want to get rid of him so I tell him im 15. He then still wants to talk.

Then the conversation takes place:

KITT82TA: how old r u?

WetDBoy: im 54

WetDBoy: u

KITT82TA: 15

WetDBoy: oh i thought u were like 25

WetDBoy: is it still ok to chat

KITT82TA: nope

KITT82TA: if u want to

Now, what I find interesting is that you clearly state that YOU WANT TO GET RID OF HIM so you tell him you're 15, but then you say "if u want to" after you said "nope". According to your opening statement, you said "He then still wants to talk". True, he does, he asked you that, but you told him no, then YOU invited him to continue in your next reply. After his diaper chat, it is clear to me that you took him exactly where you wanted him to go. You controlled the conversation at this point and manipulated where the conversation went.

My Summary:

- Your forum title was very misleading as was your opening statement.

- You can't initiate topics of perversion and then expect others to agree that the listener is automatically guilty for listening.

- You both have issues: Him for wanting to continue to chat with you after you identify to him that you are a minor and you for assuming he was a pervert or pedophile after you disclose to him that you are a minor and he still wants to talk.

- This is a poor example of "people like this give us a bad name".

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