Wanking

[Mr. Sea Otter]

Now, if 2 Live Crew has taught us anything, it's that horniness in today's society is out of control. And at one point within the next decade, mark my words, ladies and gentlemen, society will have reached something I call APATT...”All porno, all the time." Pornography will have become an epidemic in this country. Phase one... masturbation. -Howie Stein (Domino)

Tris, I respect your opinion so don't take this the wrong way. Its just that I really disagree with you. My own opinion, is that what you are saying sounds like right wing inspired nonsense. Time will tell I guess.

[tris]

You do know that that's a quote from a Movie, "Domino", a loosely-based Bio of alleged Ford Model turned Bounty Hunter, "Domino" Harvey, starring Kiera Knightly, Mickey Rourke, and the two idiots from 90210.

Who else has issue with what I say? I'm not being confrontational, or aggressive, so leave the shields down, folks.

Do all of you seriously believe that what you're doing here ISN'T based on your sexual desires?

[Aleia]

I must say I had never heard the term "wanking" until reading this topic.

[Knuxie Fawks]

I don' weally twy to... it jus' dribbles outta my winky...sumtimes. Is dat bad? I don' wanna be a bad foxie. I don' wike ta put my paws in my diapie, eider. dey get dirty, cuz I's normally wet...*blushes*

[langtab]

Do all of you seriously believe that what you're doing here ISN'T based on your sexual desires?

No! For God's sake NO! Some, I stress some, of us do. You're viewpoint seems to be that everyone is a sexual ab. Then you go asking questions like this, "Do all of you seriously believe that what you're doing here ISN'T..." Just so you know everything in life isn't 100% or nothing and if it were then the would would be a terrible place.

[Knuxie Fawks]

I don' wanna hab secks. I don' do anyting like dat ta become awoused. My arousal comes natuwally when I poop. It's natuwal cuz, dats when I's stimulated, but dis happens on guys an' girls, and not just gay or straight... I's aesexual. I don' wanna haff secks, an' I really don' feel anyting sexually from eider gender. I's gonna stop talkin' cuz I want dis subject ta die.

[tris]

Who are you? And how did you manage to post nearly 80 times in the span of 24 hours?

[phogendpf]

The majority of ABDL's are sexually aroused by diapers, atleast the ones on this board. However, there are members that wear diapers either because of incontinence or they were abused as a child etc. They are the minority of the site, but I would not say 100% of the members are sexually aroused by diapers.

[BabyJune]

I've seen several references in this post to Freud. Actually, the topic relates more to Pavlov, who is famous for his "classical conditioning."

In other words, "it feels good to wear diapers, so we do it." If it didn't give us pleasure or caused pain/discomfort or inharmony, we wouldn't do it.

It is not as much "sexual" as it is just plain, ordinary biology. The pleasure center of our brain is in the hypothalamus. It's the same part of the brain that causes involuntary reflexes such as heartbeat and breathing. (I think I'm correct in saying that. I did some research on the brain for a sci/fi novel I wrote).

So our body's response to putting on a diaper--whatever the reaction might be--is a normal, human sensation. Since it feels good, our brain says, "do that again!"

I covered a lot of that in my infantilist book "Bikini Twist." It's a novel and not a technical manual, though, so it isn't a "tedious" read.

Baby June 1/27/2008

[Knuxie Fawks]

Who are you? And how did you manage to post nearly 80 times in the span of 24 hours?

*giggles* I's magic, an' my name's Knuxie!

[Knuxie Fawks]

I've seen several references in this post to Freud. Actually, the topic relates more to Pavlov, who is famous for his "classical conditioning."

In other words, "it feels good to wear diapers, so we do it." If it didn't give us pleasure or caused pain/discomfort or inharmony, we wouldn't do it.

It is not as much "sexual" as it is just plain, ordinary biology. The pleasure center of our brain is in the hypothalamus. It's the same part of the brain that causes involuntary reflexes such as heartbeat and breathing. (I think I'm correct in saying that. I did some research on the brain for a sci/fi novel I wrote).

So our body's response to putting on a diaper--whatever the reaction might be--is a normal, human sensation. Since it feels good, our brain says, "do that again!"

I covered a lot of that in my infantilist book "Bikini Twist." It's a novel and not a technical manual, though, so it isn't a "tedious" read.

Baby June 1/27/2008

I agree. It just feels good. Which when people feel real good, I can understand how they'd become aroused.

[jenniebear]

Am i always sexually arroused when wearing a diaper now?...no

Did the interest begin because of sexual feelings resulting from wearing a diaper?...no, (after being removed from diapers at 12 months old...i think the interest started when i became aware of the love and affection adults gave infants...and desired to be a recipient of that sort of affection...so i was probably between 2 years and 4 years when my interest developed...it was not sexual at the time...it was more emotional...)

Did the interest take on a sexual conotation?...yes, during the pre-teen years after playing being a "baby" throughout my early childhood, i believe that the focus i'd centered around my "diaper area" began to feel "good" and with more exploration it became pleasurable...to the point that my first "sexually" stimulating experience grew out of my diaper play....

The Fetish was Born!...probably about age 11 or 12 ...

Did the diaper at that point become sexually focused...yes, it was overwhelmingly so until i was in my late 30's. Up until then while it was a fetish, i wasn't able to indulge my fetish desires regularly or even for any length of time. Shame, relationship, embarrassment, and not enough nerve to purchase adult diapers were all contributing factors.

Is a diaper still a sexual stimulous?...wearing a diaper in itself is not a sexual stimulous anymore, i've worn so much that that overwhelming desire and obsession has pretty much dissipated. Now it takes more of a fantasizing approach, roleplay, etc... for diapers to become arrousing. Now diapers are more a fun addition to ageplay, and a way to have Daddy focus on me and my needs...they are an intimacy generator as well as a the basis for a game of mild humiliation, not resulting in sexual stimulous but rather a Dom/sub stimulous which may or may not result in sexual stimuli...

at first i would have agreed with tris' idea that sex would have been the basis of my being here........as the "DL" interests seemed to come before the "AB" interests...however....after i thought it through...as i've written above...my diaper interest actually developed at an earlier age prior to when it did become sexual....so while i'm not sure you can class a 3 or 4 year old as an "AB" or "DL"....i definitely had an interest in returning to and enjoyed the aspects of babyhood...well beyond what would be considered "baby age".....

Just at a guess, i'd say that there are many here who are still in that "diapers are a sexual focus" stage...lifes situations often don't allow us the freedom to indulge our diaper fetish as often as we'd desire....when we are in our 20's and 30's...if ever.....

For those who are in this stage...it can be a very consuming obsession...and it may be hard to realize that it doesn't work the same way for everyone...

Just a side note...in my late teens i'd read a bit about sexual deviancy in a psych book ...while i learned what it was to be an infantilist and that it wasn't as "weird" as i'd thought....i worred about "diapers" becoming my only way to enjoy sexual pleasure...a fetish or obsession can often take over...to me this didn't seem like a desirious thing...but another book i read... on sex.. talked about "practicing" and learning to obtain pleasure in different positions etc.........so that's what i did.....and at 43 i feel like i have a pretty healthy, normal sex life...with just a lil kink/fetish thrown in to make it interesting! Ya know...it's all fun!...and it doesn't have to be about diapers....

[Codymoogle]

I'll add my two cents...

I don't understand the fetish side of AB and i don't understand DL. i'm non sexual, my ABness stems from abuse and is a way to relive my childhood and fix the scars i got from growing up the first time....except now i can never grow up. (Side note: even though I don't understand the sexual attraction to diapers, I don't condemn it...Some of my really good friends are sexual AB's/DL's.)

A friend of mine then challenged me, "What I dont understand is if you were abused during your childhood then most people would want to forget about that. But why do you want to relive the bad things and bring back memories?"

My answer?

To fix them...fix my reactions to them, break the link from the bad experiences and replace them with good experiences...like baths for example...i hate getting my hair washed/washing my hair...cause my bio dad would always get soap in my eyes and deny me a towel to wipe them...Dady is helping me fix the link in my head that makes me think hair washing = bad (from the bad experiences from before) to hair washing = fun and/or it feels nice. and since abuse can never truly be forgotten (only repressed) it's better to deal with the scars than try and deny them. dealing with it (the abuse/memories) through reenactment (with positive changes, like the bath senario "bad to good" conversion above) and regression helps. i get absolutely no sexual pleasure from diapers or babying. I get pleasure, sure, but NOT sexual pleasure. The kind of pleasure I get from regression is the kind of pleasure a mother gets from holding her newborn baby - AKA comforting but NOT at ALL sexual.

As far as the people that think "well 99.9% of others find it sexual" that's just it... 99.99% ... NOT 100%. There ARE non sexual AB's out there. Not EVERY SINGLE AB out there finds ABness sexual.

C.J.

[Knuxie Fawks]

I don' think it's even that much...maybe 80%

[Eric D]

Ok, I haven't so far replied to this here... vulgar title & question or not

Yes, for me diapers, as I've mentioned in other posts - are a sexual thing (not only - but very much so) - the touch, smell, look, feel, ... arouses me - not always to a visible degree - but I find it stimulating in a pelasent way.

if I "wank" in my diapers - sometimes - and yes if I do - I like it.

yet, albeit I beleive there are people around here who wear for different reasons than a purely sexual thing - I find it hard to believe that there is such a thing as "completely non-sexual" - and I don't mean only the diapers.

If someone says he or she is "NOT INTERESTED" in sex, I find that VERY difficult to believe.

Ok, someone might not find vanilla sex or masturbation something he / she wants to fiddle with... however I think that every human being has "sexual tendencies" in one way or another. Abuse in childhood or adult life might lead to the extinction of "normal" sexual behaviour with certain individual but I don't believe it will erradict any sexual nature of a human.

Humans like every other mammal walking this earth are very much defined by their sexuality - after all - without sex there would be no frickin' human race (for the better or worse ).

it's as old as we are, and I guess it is a very integreal part of every breathing mammal.

now, I believe it is possible to "deny" it for various psychological reasons - but deep down, sexual desires, emotions and associated feelings exist - and many day-by-day actions are and will always be based upon our sexual nature - aware of it or not.

[Knuxie Fawks]

I'll be perfectly honest, I have yet to cum in my diaper. I've never been able to make myself cum, and I really don't care anymore. I don't get a big boner from wearing either. It just feels good.

yes, an explicit question almost requires an explicit answer.

[tris]

I think the point I was trying to make about all this was similar to Eric's words -- Everyone loves to come (cum?) and if they say they don't they're outright lying. Why else would sex between two humans (or even with objects or *shudder* animals. . ) be such a big deal?

[Codymoogle]

yet, albeit I beleive there are people around here who wear for different reasons than a purely sexual thing - I find it hard to believe that there is such a thing as "completely non-sexual" - and I don't mean only the diapers.

If someone says he or she is "NOT INTERESTED" in sex, I find that VERY difficult to believe.

True...but when we mean we're non-sexual AB's, that means we don't find ABness sexual...We don't always mean that we don't want to have sex or get aroused...There's a difference...

Take me as an example.

Do I have sexual attraction? Yes.

Do I want to have sex sometimes? Yes.

Do I find ABness sexual and/or have a sexual attraction to diapers? NO, absolutely NOT.

There's a difference... Nonsexual AB means that there is no desire for anything sexual about/with/to ABness. It doesn't necessarily mean asexual or anti-sex, you know?

C.J.

[langtab]

Ok... so this is how I'm seeing this entire discussion right now... Pointless. Tris is not willing to change positions at all and neither are we. So whats best to do is let this topic go and move on. No one is going to "win" this convo so whats the point? We say something and then Tris says something to make us angry, like we are all liers (non-sexual ABs), and then we get mad about it. At this point im done discussing this whole topic.

[Toddler Pampers]

Let's get back to the subject, shall we?

The original topic was, Do you masturbate in diapers? Not everyone does, but most probably do.

I do. In fact, I'd really like to know more about how people do it. Take me for example. I cut a hole in what has become a very wet disposable. I apply a liberal amount of Vaseline and then I grasp my member through a pair of vinyl pull-ons I've got on.

Is anybody else maturbating like this?

Would be interesting to hear others' masturbation routines. I'm afraid the debate over whether everybody does, or doesn't, is pretty boring

TP

[tris]

It wasn't a debate over does or doesn't. But I'm 110% positive that everybody likes to nut. There isn't a man or woman alive who climaxes and goes "Ugh, that sucked. I'm never doing THAT again."

That was my whole point.

I like to pour baby oil down the front of an already wet diaper and grind like that. Slippery with the wetness and expansion of the sorbent makes for good jollies.

Oh, and :

" Tris is not willing to change positions at all and neither are we." --Langtab

Believe me, dude, I CHANGE POSITIONS. E'ry night, my man! Something you apparently know nothing about. *zing!*

Don't get angry, y'all. I think alot of you just don't understand where I'm cumming from. Its your life, your body. Be hot, bothered and miserable, it doesn't affect me.