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An intelligent discussion up to the last post, then we heard from the evangical whacko. I would love to tell you the fact he's from missouri is coincidence but I remember attorney general ashcfoft tooi well.

Sorry Redneck, the 14th Amendment has everything to do with it. The "due process" clause extends the protections of the Bill of Rights to the states and thus to the counties and cities. Under the theory of the "state actiion" doctrine though, states may not engage in actiions that are permitted to private parties. Thus private colleges may engage in discrimination denied to public institutions, though those private colleges are held to the standards required of public institutions if they receive public funding, as in fact most do.

Once again Redneck's ignorance trips him up. He needs to read further and he might find the state action doctrine in the 14th Amendment which extends the protections of the Bill of Rights to the states and therefore to the counties and cities (counties and cities are creatures of the state).

For the record BoTox the correct quote is "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana 1905. Another good one is "Only the dead have seen the end of war." George Santayana 1922. Historians generally DO NOT accept the reasoning in the "those who cannot remember" in that historians do not believe history repeats itself.

Anybody who would call Lou Dobbs a journalist has a problem with reality anyway. That's like calling Newt Gingrich a historian!

The issue in Tucson is not that the shooter was an NRA member, it is that the foolish (criminal?) policies of the NRA make handguns (and assault rifles) readily available to unbalanced people in the US. Take a close look at the Michigan Militia as a case in point. The main purpose of the leadership of the NRA is to extract money from the intellectually challenged anyway. They get rich (look at Wayne LaPierre for example). When I was a member of the NRA I asked for a financial statement. That was good for a laugh! And by the way, I am familiar with weapons. I shot competetively for a number of years and hand load too.

Its fun to listen to people like Rick Perry (dumb even for Texas) and Rick (God told me to run) Santorum quote the Bible. Unless they can read Hebrew, classical Greek and Aramaic hen they're trusting the translators. Given that George W. Bust and Herman Cain and Rick Perry all said God told them to run it looks like God is 0 for 3 so far.

Fox News! The ultimate oxymoron!

Obviously redneck is as illiterate as the majority of the Supreme Court. Just what we need, a bunch of crazy NRA members running around shooting congresswomen! And for the record, when John Q. Homeowner hears a noise in the night and grabs his trusty hand gun to go investigate, guess who winds up dead? Frequently its his 18 year old son trying to sneak in at 2:00 am.

Its fun to listen to people like BoTox ruminate on the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. Regardless of what these intellectually special needs people might like to believe, the 2nd Amendment DOES NOT say "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Rather it says "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Leaving aside the inability of people like Clarance Thomas to read and research, the founding fathers were clearly guaranteeing a militia. They had made a conscious decision to NOT maintain a large standing army in that they had unpleasant experiences with such in the person of the British Army. Rather they decided to rely on a small standing army and a large state militia. The army was to serve as a trip wire while the militia could be brought up. This was true up to the 20th Century. The US Civil War was fought (on the Union side anyway) by state militia units. A popular line was "We are here Father Abraham, 100,000 strong!" In 1789 the militiamen brought their personal weapons to militia drill, creating among other problems a logistical nightmare. You had an army where your neighbor may very well be unable to give you musket balls should you run short. His might well not fit your weapon! Also the weapons with which the founding fathers were familiar were flint lock muzzle loading weapons with a lethal range of something like 100 to 500 yards. Not fully automatic weapons with a rate of fire on the order of 1000 rounds per minute. The NRA maintains we need AK47's as great sporting weapons. That's true only if the deer start carrying Uzi's! Neither the AK47 nor the M16 are very good sporting weapons. And for the record I have both of them. Although dissapointed in Obama will I vote for him? Looking at what the Republicans are scraping off the bottom of their collective shoes, my vote for Obama is a certainty!

In Iowa we feel strangely superior! We did it 2 years ago.

Don't get flannel, it gets hard fairly soon. Birdseye lasts longer and gauze is more comfortable and dries quicker.

Missy can''t wear training panties yet, she's still a baby and needs diapees!

Most babies with plastic pants have poop stains around the legs.