sunsoul

hi, guys. I can easily imagine that it would be tough for you to find stories you wanted to do. Many are not really "stories" in a narrative sense but are written simply to be erotically stimulating. And everyone has their very own person version of that. I guess my stuff falls somewhat in the middle of that range. If you like, I will send you some snippets. Also curious to see what your wife's voice is like. Makes a huge difference for me, both the voice itself and the reading style, inflection. You can email me at mskuce AT unixg DOT ubc DOT ca. I don't generally frequent this forum so I would not know if you had replied. best, sunsoul, Vancouver

Personally, I find Protex way over priced. The pants you posted a pic of are not well shaped, very thin. You can get the same product at either AC Medical or Kalesenterprises.com for far less money. But if you want something in rubber that is very high quality, indestructible and comes in all sizes and seals totally with comfort try Fetisso's product. These pants are not cheap but you'll never have to buy a second pair. They are indestrutable - made without seams - they are very good qualityy molded latex rubber. Cost, about 60 bucks US. Kalesenterprises.com sells them. It is called a "nappy pant" on their site. It comes in natural and colours. Fetisso is primarily a bdsm rubber maker. They use organic latex and that is dip-moulded in one piece, same as the Playtex pants used to be but much tougher and looser. But the Fetisso product is a very different design. It's a little loose in the body, quite high and has short legs that kind of stick down off the body of the pant and fit very snug around your legs - but very comfortably so. Ditto for the waist. It is leakproof if you have the right fit with the single, classic exception of that point at your spine where your torso goes convex. They are also a really nice bunch of people in a small company together and are working hard to get their business successfull in Brazil. One last thing. If you have tried latex you will know that most latex fetish products require some kind of powdering to stop the rubber sticking to your skin. Not so for these pants. They have been specially treated so that they slide right on, slick and smooth, every time. No fooling around and powder everywhere. have fun, sunsoul

"technically rubber and latex are a separate fetish however to each their own." Indeed, technically. But wouldn't you agree that plastic/rubber is a very common theme in abdl writing and imagery? Sure looks that way to me. Still, discussion here rarely acknowledges this and I simply wonder why that is so. "Everyone tries to label themselves. Who really cares." Firstly, I think that labelling and naming are very significant human behaviours. Secondly, I was trying to say something I find significant. "Who really cares", as a response, is not worth putting in print. It is simply a put down, nothing more.

Well sure you can be a dl without the ab. I am one. What I find curious is that nobody has mentioned plastic or rubber pants and that there is no shorthand for a "plastic pants lover". I am personally an RPL - rubber pants lover. Though for me, "rubber pants" means rubber or plastic and I enjoy both. Until I ran into the dl thing on the net back in the nineties I had really zero interest in diapers per se. Rubber pants?, yes, totally, from the age of like three and a half. And I think that is likely true for a lot of people. Now, years later, I enjoy the diaper aspect too but only with a nice smoothm secure pair of rubber/and or plastic pants over. Somebody said that DLs were primarily fetishists - ie, stimulated by a particular object or material or piece of clothing. I agree with that as a generalization. Now, admittedly, this fetish if for a diaper of some kind for a great many DLs. But when you look at the kind of imagery out there for the enjoyment of the abdl community you have to notice that plastic and rubber pants are big compared with diaper only pics. That can't all be just because, from the forties (and before) thru the eighties, most mothers used "cloth diapers and rubber pants" and so that's what we "expect" to see in ageplay imagery. There has to be a big fetishistic component there. Again, the number of stories, fiction and real histories, that recount the "borrowing" of rubber/plastic pants from siblings or clotheslines or wherever is big. So, if I am half-way right about this, is the "DL" apellation dominant simply because people find it easier and less kinky to describe themselves as "DLs" than as "RPLs" or "PPLs"? Curious to hear opinions on this. sunsoul - your dedicated RPL

I'm new here but, at the young age of 61, not new to rubber pants. So in answer to your question, wetpants, have you tried the molded "nappy pants" as they call them by Fetisso? Someone in this thread mentioned one of Fetisso's two abdl oriented products (the more commonly sole and visible product) and said they were low cut. Yes, this is so. But the other item they make (the rest of their many designs serve the "heavy rubber" market) is as pictured - not unlike the image you posted and I am guessing somewhat similar to the kind of thing that a toddler in the thirties might have worn if his mommy had money - tho I am also guessing that these would have been sewn, not molded. Fetisso's own site is fetisso.com but there is not much there of interest to us. Instead, try a canadian site, Kalesenterprises.com Nice guy. Name of Heimo Hakuli - Fin if I recall. Enter this url in your address bar: http://www.kalesenterprises.com/newproducts.htm#Dip1 item DLT-NYP-BL17 is what I am referring to. That is his "product number" (sigh). Fetisso's product number is 4620 I think. Heimo's site is a little wonky but he is sincere and honest and easily the cheapest guy in town. His photos do not show it but the fetisso product does come in "natural". It is truly an amazing piece of rubber. Indestructible. You could run a team of horses with it. Better, it does not require talc. The latex is treated (I seem to remember something to do with chlorine gas) to make it permanently non-sticky. Four sizes and a choice of colours and, by the way, thicknesses. Most of the stuff you see on Heimo's site he make himself and will do custom orders of any kind, pretty solid work. He makes the stuff himself - no 10buckanhour elves in the back room. I think Fetisso's designer based their sizing on a german model because I am 6 feet with a 32 waist and the small is still a little loose at the waist for me. Nonetheless, "the cadillac of rubber pants", as I saw it described somewhere. No, I don't own part of the company. But I have gotten to known the guy who does all their web stuff and communication. He's German-Swiss working in equatorial Brazil - home of Fetisso and of the rubber tree that started it all. Amazing where business (and pleasure) will take you. The photo you posted you titled "old". Looks to me like a few years, custom made in England or Germany. "Glued, not molded", as james bond would have it. Nice work. Curious to know where the pants are from. Also, I confess I am amazed that at your age your were, "raised on Playtex rubber pants". Figured they were long gone by that time - if you mean "rubber" literally. Please say more. Anyhow, now I have to go an image. Hope all this helps. BTW, I tried emailing you direct but ran into Yahoo messenger. I am not keen on adding new invasive software to my machine. But you can get me direct as I have listed my email. Surely all those 9/11 guys have something better to do. best, sunsoul.