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This was all good info, thank you. I experience similar things, down to the marks/leaking, which is really common for me. Oddly, I remember it even being a thing before my spinal cord injury, although it's worse now. As far as fully messing, it sounds like you're experiencing that more often than I am. I actually met w/ my doctor today (part of why I was asking you this last night) and she didn't ask about frequency, just for a few details about when it started and such. She renewed the referral, so hopefully it works this time. I asked her if she knew whether I had any choice over brands and she just said she'd try to write the ones I wanted and see what happens.

Do you mind my asking if you've discussed the frequency of your accidents with her? I have incontinence on my own record, both urinary and fecal, related to a spinal cord injury I had 20+ years ago. In reality, my issues are mostly retention-related for both, rather than wetting/messing, although I have had several fecal accidents or "near misses" over the years. I guess I'm wondering how frequently you need to have bowel accidents in order for the average doctor to think diapers are appropriate. My doctor wrote me a DME referral for diapers recently, but my health care has asked that I have additional follow up with the doc before they will approve. I assume this might lead to more questions.

Is the incontinence on your record primarily fecal?

It seems as though you're suggesting that someone could theoretically mess themselves (#2) sometime in the evening and not change themselves until the following morning, assuming that was the "set time" you had previously chosen to change your diaper every day. Sounds a little bit ridiculous, no...?

Sorry, I'm a little slow. Does this mean like gender-affirming surgery?

By the way, I did get my prescription today. Or, in this case, a "DME Referral". I'm still a bit confused about the process. My Dr. mentioned via online portal that she was submitting the DME Referral, then responded again saying, "Referrals wants to know what size diaper you need and which 'pharmacy' you'd like to pick up from." I guess I assumed that it would be some type of DME/Medical Supply place, as opposed to a "pharmacy" like CVS/Walgreens/etc. Isn't that the case? Also, what steps would I take from here to try to get an ATN or similar good quality diaper, as opposed to the cheap stuff that's probably going to get approved? Does this need to be sorted/negotiated before the referral is sent?

I'm really sorry to hear about your situation, but it sounds like you're a resilient man. That is really funny about the ATNs. Sounds about right for the state of health insurance here in the US! Thank you so much for your input on this. I reached out to my doctor tonight via their online portal to ask for the prescription. As I mentioned, I already have a letter from her, so I assume it won't be an issue. Sounds like I might end up with a cheaper diaper though... hopefully not!

Thank you, I really appreciate your thorough response (and everyone else's, as well). Very informative! By coincidence, the diaper I usually buy from the medical supply store near me IS the ATN (this is the only store anywhere in the vicinity that sells anything other than "prevail", it seems). I'm not sure if that would help me in this case or not though. Insurance is tricky to navigate! I'm glad you've been able to sort it out to get your ATNs.

I have new health insurance and I believe they cover adult diapers if medically necessary. A couple of dumb, related questions: 1. Does your doctor actually have to write a "prescription" for your diapers, or is a diagnosis on your medical record sufficient? Info online seems to be conflicting. For context, I do have both urinary and fecal incontinence listed on my medical record currently (I had a spinal cord injury at 20 years old), as well as a letter from my doc stating that diapers are a medical necessity for me, although that letter was intended for TSA just in case I ran into any awkward questions at the airport. Regardless, I wouldn't anticipate any issues with getting a prescription, if necessary. 2. Can insurance-funded diapers be picked up in person at a medical supply store, etc? I assume most people just have them shipped monthly, but I do have a supply store just around the corner from my home and that would be convenient as well. I assume most answers will include a note about the poor quality of diapers that insurance carriers will approve. I guess my best bet there would be to have a conversation w/ my insurance. I would think I would at least have a chance at better quality ones based on the fecal incontinence diagnosis.

I actually have this same issue, although, for me, it's been since childhood. I remember my mom would never let me have certain foods (even Raisin Bran, for example), as a result. Seems like it can be better or worse depending on the softness/firmness of my bowel movements, how much I've gone (I also tend to have constipation and/or incomplete voiding from a spinal cord injury), etc.

Uh, I never said anything about "leaving them all over the place...". Rather, I mentioned the two specific places I left them, which would be logical places for an incontinent person to have diapers.

Thank you.. it happens that there's an event in town this week (not sure if it's even proceeding with the snow storms, but the guests are here anyway). So the hotel is packed. As I type this, there's been somebody at the room across the hall banging on the door and yelling at the person(s) inside for about 6 or 7 consecutive minutes. Kids are running up and down the hall at all hours of the night. The floors in the lobby have been dirty and wet from people exiting the indoor pool area without drying their feet. Somebody was eating KFC in the laundry area for some reason and conveniently left the boxes in there with gravy on the folding table when they finished. In other words, I'm thinking the guy with the clean room and a few stacked diapers is probably not chief among the immediate concerns of hotel staff, maids in particular, but I suppose I could be wrong.

The majority of responses appear to agree with your position that what I'm doing is wrong, and I'm sincerely taking it to heart. That's why I asked for feedback. With that said, I think your responses have been pretty over the top, so I'm going to defend myself a little bit. So you're saying that any grown man who leaves a pair of underwear around his hotel room could potentially be prosecuted for harassment? That seems like a hard one to sell to a jury. Understood that many people would NEVER leave underwear in plain view around their hotel room, but others would, just as they would leave clothes hanging in the closet Why is it any different if I have a few clean diapers neatly folded by my bedside? I'm just speculating here, but I'm guessing a maid would rather *view* a few clean, folded diapers vs picking up somebody's dirty socks, shirts, underwear, etc., as we all know they do every day. As I stated before, it's fairly likely that my room is far cleaner than most rooms they enter, so I don't feel I'm "interfering with their work". They likely come in, turn down the bed, set some clean towels next to my diapers, and then leave. While I agree that it's probably odd for them to see diapers, I seriously doubt they're traumatized by the experience. I would also assume that a maid who sees diapers in a hotel room wouldn't have any reason to think they belong to an "adult baby". These are plain diapers, not animal print or anything.

Hmm... I invited feedback, so I can't be upset when it comes, but let me clarify a couple of things: First, as a couple of posters mentioned, these are CLEAN diapers (hence me saying they were there for changes... who would change into a dirty diaper?). They're literally stacked next to some t-shirts and socks on my nightstand (and a few more by the towels in the bathroom). I'm almost tempted to share a pic or two of my hotel room. It mostly looks as it's already serviced apart from the aforementioned stack of clean clothes and the unmade bed. Also, as I should have mentioned before, any dirty diapers are wrapped and tied in a grocery bag and disposed of either in my bathroom or a hallway receptacle. I'll admit I still feel a bit guilty, and perhaps rightly so, for even making the maids deal with them, whether they're wrapped in a grocery bag or not. Presumably they've been around long enough to do the same for legitimately incontinent folks, but that's out of necessity, not so I can satisfy my need for embarrassment. In any event, I appreciate your responses. It appears that most feel this is inappropriate - so I'm glad I asked. Little Sherri, thank you - it's good to get input from somebody who's full-time.

I'll start by saying I'm the type of person that really enjoys the embarrassment of people knowing I'm wearing diapers... This week I'm out in the midwest for work, but we're having terrible snowstorms so I'm mostly stuck in my hotel room without much to do. These tend to be the times when I get obsessed with diapers and related embarrassment. So I drove around to a couple stores in town yesterday looking for diapers, and then when they were ringing me up, I made sure to offer a comment along the lines of, "maybe next time I'll plan better so I don't run out during a blizzard." The purpose being to indicate that the diapers are for me as opposed to an elderly family member, etc.... Today I had an even better opportunity when I realized that housekeeping was on my floor and that they'd want to clean my hotel room soon. Better yet, both of the maids were cute, youngish girls (which for some reason makes the feeling of embarrassment even more enjoyable for me). So I placed a couple diapers in the bathroom where they'd be replacing the towels, and another couple on one of the nightstand shelves next to my bed along with some clean socks and undershirts. Essentially, I wanted to make sure it looked "organic", as if I stage these things around my room since "i'll need a change" when I wake up in the morning or when I get out of the shower. Conveniently, these are also areas that the maids can't possibly miss as they're doing their work. Anyway, I grabbed my computer, threw it in my backpack, and then on my way down to the "business center" of the hotel, made sure to comment to the maids, "I'm out of room 527 whenever you need to go there" so they'd know that I was, in fact, the person with the diapers in his room (once they went in there). Questions for the group: - Am I going too far? There are moments when I "come down off my high" when I feel legitimately guilty for subjecting others to my weird fetish. These girls are just trying to do their job and they walk in on something that has to be, at the least, a bit surprising/jarring to them. -Would an actual incontinent person behave this way? In other words, do incontinent folks generally hide their diapers away in their suitcase, drawers, etc., so that people would never see them? Or is it reasonable to think they might set them out with the rest of their clean clothes just as a continent person might do? -This question may be a dumb one, but... are there many people who appear perfectly healthy, have no issues walking around (i.e. no spine injuries), are of middle age, etc., who are actually severely incontinent? I'm generally at least somewhat healthy and athletic looking, although I do legitimately have nerve damage from a back injury about 20 years ago. I wonder sometimes if people would think there's no way I'd actually be incontinent just based on how I appear from the outside. Appreciate your feedback! Thanks everyone!