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I wear the ABU Super Dry Kids Diapers to work on Fridays. I usually work alone while check sewage stations and most have pump houses that give me a place to change my diaper during the day. I carry about 4 or 5 diapers on me during the day in a backpack along with my lunch lol.

Now that they are available in the United States, I use Tena Slip Maxi. I am unable to use the restroom whenever I need to due to the nature of my job. When it is time to change, there are multiple private locking bathrooms available. I carry a bag with diapers and wipes into the bathroom. After two years, nobody has said a thing about my bag. I roll up the used wet diaper, tape it to itself, wrap it in a paper towel or two then toss it in the trash. Prior to Tena, I used Abena M4, Secure X Plus, and Eurobrief.

Depends pull-ups work well enough for me since they catch what I can no longer control all day, are discreet, and allow me to use the bathroom easily. For those times when my tenuous control wanes badly (which it sometimes does) one will usually last me through the workday so changes there are rare and can be worked into a good time versus a need to change immediately. Plus it gives me the option of not going to the bathroom if I choose not to since they will hold a bit more than one bladder-full for me without leaking. At work it is important to know and trust your diapers ability to do it's job properly. That is safely discovered through use away from work. Once you know the limits it's a lot easier to stay safely within them. I have worn thick cloth diapers with plastic pants to work before, though I prefer not to. Sometimes that is a physical need and sometimes a financial necessity. Doing that taught me that it can be done discretely and safely, but I still prefer less bulk at work and in places where I feel discretion is valuable. Though there's nothing wrong with it, you can refrain from wearing to work if you want to, but if you do that you should realize that not doing so is your choice- you can do it, you just prefer otherwise. Don't say 'I can't' because you can- I can think of very few jobs where wearing diapers is impossible or highly impractical. Telling yourself that you can't when you can keeps you from growing and reaching higher goals and better things. That doesn't mean that you have to do everything, only that you know what you're doing and want it to be that way and are willing to accept the consequences of your decision. Do or do not: anything less is half-a$$ed and will get you nowhere, thus is a waste of time to attempt. And do what you want to do when you can- which is almost always. The only thing that limits you is you. Bettypooh

Truck driver, here, sonobody actually sees me while at work. And I wear loose enough jeans, to where nobody can tell, anyway. With a sleeper cab, on the truck, its easy enough to change, without people seeing me and, I put the used one in a grocerie bag, for disposal.

Blake, yes a lot of people are interested in this thread and your progress so don't get discouraged My own goal is a little different than yours in that I would love to have 'switchable' bladder incontinence, and to a limited degree I have accomplished that. It may be easier for me than most since I live with OAB,SI and UI all the time. While I generally don't go there, some weekends I want nothing more than to soak as many diapers as I possibly can and the 'overhydration' really helps this happen. You're right that this is in the mind, for that is where desires turn into reality when they are strong enough and possible. You really have to want this a lot to achieve it because you have a lifetime learned habit of automatically doing the exact opposite, and overcoming that isn't going to happen overnight I guess most of us have checked out the 12 month program and it can work- but it fails to take into account those of us who are not AB. I found the AB 'slant' rather off-putting and I'm not interested in fecal incontinence So your thread here is serving as a DL alternative to that, and a needed one. Please keep it going My own experience is that I can become nearly incontinent over a few hours time by wanting to become soaked and just flat-out ignoring what my bladder wants. Mentally I refuse to acknowledge that it can hold urine. Instead I think of it as a muscle that needs to relax since nothing bad is going to happen if it does that and like sleeping, all muscles need rest. Even your heart and lungs rest between their cycles so why not give your bladder a break from all the work too? Through life I've had to stay conscious of my bladder or leak. I had to constantly monitor it and be ready to pinch off a flow instantly or I'd wind up wetting myself. Going 24/7 has allowed me to reduce that attention to only monitoring after the flow has started, then deciding whether I want to do anything about it. It's been tough getting over the SI part more than the rest, because I always 'clamp down' before moving- it's a lifelong habit. Sometimes I can get there in hours, sometimes I can't get there for a full day. Like normal bladder control it's an automatic function for me We share the three things needed to enjoy wetting freely: a strong mind, a strong desire to do this, and the learned ability to analyze the situation and respond to it. I remember the bliss I felt when I first was able to simply let go and leak It took me about a week in a situation where I could practice it at work. By Sunday that weekend I was actually unable to control to UI spurts anymore. That worried me because I wasn't totally comfortable with wearing thick cloth diapers in public yet (something I can do now, but not without a small bit of worry remaining). I spent that Sunday evening regaining control and by morning I was almost back to normal. Worrying and fear has always affected my bladder control and the worry that I may have lost some ability counter-acted my desire to 'dry up' again but I got there by Monday evening. I didn't try again for a while because of that fear and because I wanted to think it through completely before trying again since there did seem to be a possibility of permanence for me. Unlike you I don't want that but I can accept it if it happens- after all aging is causing me to lose control slowly anyway and if I live long enough I truly expect to become incontinent at some point. Since I'm going to have to deal with that anyway I was able to lose that worry, again making the whole thing easier to do. Going back and forth has made it easier for me to turn my bladder control off and on though not completely; to some degree it still has a mind of it's own but I'm stubborn and I'm working on fixing that problem I will control it, it will not control me. I view it as just another part of my body and my mind can overcome what my brain wants to do if I work on it long enough! I mentioned elsewhere that my wearing 24/7 has been one of the best things I've ever done for myself. The reasons for that are that I have lost my lifelong worry about wet pants, I can put the part of my mind that I used to do the worrying to better purposes, and I can relax totally when I want to- that means everything where it never did before. Now every morning I can decide what kind of diapers I'm going to wear that day and whether I want to maintain some control (which I usually do). And when the circumstances are right I can allow myself the pleasure I deserve to wet freely and enjoy it without concern. It has proven to be the most satisfying thing I've ever done, better than sex but different, especially because this is something that lasts as long as I want it to and I can do it anywhere anytime- it is a total freedom that few others will ever feel which makes it very special to me Now I look at everyone else in the world differently too for I know they have given in to society's idea that you are supposed to waste a considerable part of your limited time here on earth in the bathroom peeing when you don't really have to If that's what you want then fine- some of us have simply gone beyond that silliness to better things! Bettypooh

Up until the end. You will have both motive and control. However yes the idea is to keep that muscle and sphincter open at all times. Your bladder will naturally clench down on it when it feels pressure. This is 1:Think. 2:Feel 3:Do First you think about going as you feel pressure on your bladder. Your bladder and sphincter clenching down. Then eventually as you get into practice you get into 2: Feel 3: Do You feel pressure on your bladder, even if your distracted, you release your bladder back to its natural state. This allows the flow of urine to start. Lastly Is 3: Do This is when muscle memory takes place and your distracted or relaxed enough that you begin to release urine without thinking about it. Don't be surprised to get to any of these states and still have some control of your bladder if your concentrate while diapered. Even more while not.

What you want to try if you like lying on the floor and diapering,lay on the floor get the diaper in place and then tape the lower tapes as tight as you want them. Then stand up and tape the top, your body does change shape slightly when you stand.

To get into more detail on a few issues. 1: Relaxing the bladder. Since most of us were young. We were trained to "clench" our sphincter muscles to prevent flow. The only time during which these muscles are not clenched is during the flow of urine. Immediately after finishing we are taught to clench once again to stop any further flow, or dripping. The easiest way to start reconditioning yourself to relax your bladder is to pay attention to what it feels like while your urinating. Feel that openness? Now, instead of clenching and pinching off. Try and hold that feeling as long as you can after the flow stops. You may very well drip for a bit. This is ok and natural. To begin with you may also only be able to hold that openness while in a diaper, in front of, or on a toilet, and only for a few seconds at a time. Do pay attention to how it feels though. Every time you think about or remember it. Try to relax as if your about to go to the bathroom. Even if you don't have the urge. Soon you'll be able to relax longer and longer. Never. I repeat. Never bear down. If your in the habit of doing so, wait until your bladder is bursting and relax the bladder, before and after. The only time you should be bearing down is when you are getting used to new positions, and have a block in that position. Eventually you'll start catching your clenched bladder more and more. And remember to relax it more and more, until it becomes normal. --------------------------- Mind blocks. When you first start out, everything will be hard. Wetting in a diaper will be hard. Trusting the diaper will hard. Wetting in any position, and I'm different locations in the same positions, as well as in different company. Start with the basics. Get past the things that you have to in order to function. You may have to do this Before you start wearing full time. Issues like wetting In the most common positions and trusting your diaper should be first on your list. You don't have to learn to wet in every position all at once. Get the basics down. The basics will be different for each person. Though most commonly including. Sitting lying down reclining and standing. Once you get those down. Move on to more common positions such as sides and In between. You'll only get frustrated if you try to start wearing, especially in public. Without the basics down first. It is not unheard of for a recreational wearer who floods their diaper only while standing to be extremely frustrated when they wear out In public for the first time and their bladder tightens up. Ok. Let's say you've got the basics down. But your stuck. Your not making progress. Or you can't wet in a certain position or in front of a certain somebody(s). What to do: Try the basics. Force the issue. Literally. At this point you still have some control. Get well padded. Your gonna need it for this exercise. This is kinda a step back and two steps forward, to break through a mental barrier. Get watermelon, dandelion root, caffeine, or all of the above, and take it about 90 minute before this exercise. 45 minute before, start drinking. Water. Preferably room temp. Easier on the stomach especially in large quantities.- pick up a 1/2 gallon jug from the store or water and ice place, and sip on it. Don't make yourself sick. Just keep sipping. Don't let yourself go! You want an unbearable bladder. Remember that mental training of drinking and urinating? Well that's gonna come in handy. Let's say as suggested in the post above that your having troubles urinating while walking or running. This is just as much mental as it I'd physical. We have been taught to clench down when we walk or run so as not to have an accident. Hopefully we've been practicing that relaxed bladder. Now it's time to teach both our mind, and body it's ok to have a relaxed bladder. Even while walking or running. As I said. One step backward. Two steps forward By now we should barely be able to contain ourselves. Be jumping around trying to hold things in. Grab a glass of water, or fill up your jug again, and start drinking slowly. Now let the conditioning take place. Relax your bladder muscles. The urine should begin to flow. Take a few steps. Most likely your bladder will clench up. This is normal. Continue sipping and allow the flow to start again. Repeat this process until you have emptied your bladder. By the end you should be able to take several steps, possibly even walk for a few seconds before your bladder clenches down. You'll have to repeat this process several times until your able to walk normally. Once your able to walk while continually drinking. Slowly cut back on the drinking until you are Judy starting the flow by drinking. Once you've come this far, you should be able to start the flow yourself. You have a couple of options for running. I'd recommend mastering the walking aspect first. Then using the sipping method as conditioning to get to get to jogging a few paces, then all out, then finally running. You can also try walking. Then using the sipping method to condition yourself so that you can start the flow during mid walk. This is especially if you exercise by speed walking jogging or running. As you will eventually be able to condition yourself to go in mid pace. This full bladder/sipping method can also be applied for other blocks such as hard positions or uncomfortable situations. Let's move on to a different kind of block-pure mental. These are the types that will slow you down exponentially. Things like self acceptance, defining yourself as incontinent, setting up checks and balances, and coming out of the closet. There is also aspects of redefining the fantasy as reality. And all that this entails. These issues are in someways much harder to deal with than mental and physical reconditioning. The fact of the matter is your making a life altering choice here, and it will affect your life in more ways than you can foresee. It will change your daily schedule, partner options, sometimes even who your friends are and how they and your family see you. It will affect your career, and the choices you have. Limit your travel options. And cause much pain and humiliation over the years as you have to explain your condition and accidents that occur that are beyond your control. These are the real negative aspects that I believe apply universally. The positive ones, and of course the are many, will vary from person to person. One of the first things your going to ease this transition is realize that sooner or later. You Will Not have control over some of your bodily functions. This is not a fantasy. But something to come to terms with, and redefine yourself with, the good, the bad and ugly. I bring this up do often as in many cases this process is non reversible and detrimintal to your body even if you don't complete the process. This is very briefly mentioned in almost any guide I read, however is one of the hardest things to do. Changing your mindset from fantasy to reality. So how do you do that? Test run after test run. Even if your not actively trying to condition your bladder, imagine that your life is permanently on diapers. Don't think of it as a test run. But think of it as, this is the way it is. At the end of that period. Look back on your memories and journal. See if you think you can deal with that re-definition. Sooner or later your gonna have to trust your diapers. Or not. I still have leaks. Especially as I tend to lay down allot. Practice, practice practice. You'll never be able to get to incontinence if you don't trust your diaper and Also accept that leaks can happen anytime and anywhere. Even with a brand new perfectly tapes diaper. If you can't deal with leaks. Don't go down this path. One of the biggest milestones is going to be accepting leaks. And not worrying about them. Knowing that they are now part of your condition. This will in turn help you keep your bladder relaxed, and will help you reach your goal faster. If you have odds and end blocks. And you don't want to pay a high price for the custom hypnosis. The generic clearing tape from foradultbabies.com works as a very good guided mediation. Around $50 or do. But with a bit of practice allows you to work through your blocks, even if your not into hypnosis. I find this particular recording more of a guided meditation than hypnosis. As it allows you to actively work on any mental blocks. If there are any other specific blocks you want me to cover, or any other questions, let me know. As always, questions, comments and concerns are welcomed. I'd like to make this as complete of a resource as possible, so please, speak up. -Blake-

I use the attends breathable extra absorbent for work. They're a nice balance between thin and absorbent. The breathable limits the noise and lets me untape in case I chose to use the toilet. I can fit one nicely in my pocket when I go to lunch and change there.

For all the reasons that have been posted above, I use an unconventional diaper for work. It's a Pampers size 6 with a custom elastic strap to allow me to wear it. I'm slim so this is an option for me. Folded and stored in a Ziplock sandwich bag, it fits in the back pocket of my jeans which means I'm always discretely carrying a spare. They only take one wetting and changing in a stall is changing in a stall. The wet diaper is put in the sandwich bag and either carried out in the back pocket or stuffed in the top of a sock and hidden by the pants leg. Once back in my office, the wet diaper is transferred to my bag and another spare is loaded in my back pocket. This has worked for me, but I do need a discrete office to do the transfer and that part is a llttle tricky now. Also, it depends on how discrete the bathroom/stall is at work. This was the only way I could thought of that didn't require bringing a diaper bag with me.