Pre-Employment Uas As An Inco

[Heven]

Don't do drugs or don't work for the company. you are not entitled to their employment so grow up and shut up.

Don't talk if you don't know what you're talking about?

There's a lot more nuance to the issue than you seem to comprehend. Say employers decided that they didn't want to worry about expensive insurance premiums, so they decided to start instituting nicotine tests en masse. Would you support that, knowing that the entire country's population of smokers would suddenly be ineligible to work half of entry-level jobs? What about if the same applied to junk food, or red meat, or any other vice at all? Do you really think it's as simple as being the employer's prerogative?

[Dougie]

Don't talk if you don't know what you're talking about?

There's a lot more nuance to the issue than you seem to comprehend. Say employers decided that they didn't want to worry about expensive insurance premiums, so they decided to start instituting nicotine tests en masse. Would you support that, knowing that the entire country's population of smokers would suddenly be ineligible to work half of entry-level jobs? What about if the same applied to junk food, or red meat, or any other vice at all? Do you really think it's as simple as being the employer's prerogative?

Reality check:

If employers wanted to start and new program like that and apply it to the current employees they would be required, by local laws, to send a written notice to every employee with the date that testing for all employees becomes mandatory. It would need to be a date set 30, 45, 60, 90, etc. days in the future for it to be legal. If any employees decide to risk continued use, or ignore the notice, they have made their choice.

[KittenAB]

Reality check:

If employers wanted to start and new program like that and apply it to the current employees they would be required, by local laws, to send a written notice to every employee with the date that testing for all employees becomes mandatory. It would need to be a date set 30, 45, 60, 90, etc. days in the future for it to be legal. If any employees decide to risk continued use, or ignore the notice, they have made their choice.

Dougie is right, and while I'm against such idiocies myself (if it doesn't directly effect the ability to do the job, it's not their business) it is legal. There are many places that already ban smoking not only in the work place, but will make YOU pay the higher insurance cost (really stupid that insurance companies charge more for this in the first place). Also, many places of business cannot hire people larger than a certain size (fat or muscle makes no difference) or less than a certain weight. Employment is not a right, it's a privilege. There are plenty of jobs where different rules apply, you find the one you are most suited to not only in skill but also lifestyle choices and physical ability. Fast food jobs and many other labor positions have very low regulations on such things, simply because most people don't consider them work, but they are paying jobs and no less noble than any other jobs, nor less difficult really. If you want to work in a specific job, you have to fulfill their requirements, that's it.

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