Uh... Y'all?

[Rawr]

Tommee - I know that a code system doesn't fully resolve the issue of people taking offence at our community or the stories in general - BUT the reason that the Girls Aloud case was dismissed was that is was thought that people weren't going to stumble across the story accidentally - and only those who were fully aware of the content would have accessed it. By instituting a code system to make people aware of the content of stories, it *might* hopefully reduce the number of people who accidentally find it and take offence. At least, with clear signposting, the author/distributor might have more of a legal leg to stand on, if it ever did escalate to that point.

Rx

[PampersPete]

Why are we even discussing this?

[Rawr]

I think we're discussing it because there are a clearly range of different opinions on the subject. The OP had/has a problem with something, some people disagree, some people agree.

Maybe if we all talk it through like adults, a compromise that keeps everyone happy might be reached?

[PampersPete]

Here's the compromise:As long as DD let's me and sees nothing wrong with it,I'll continue to post stories with questionable ages in it. You,as a reader have the CHOICE to ignore it or not to ignore it. See how happy we are? I'll be honest,reading or posting diaper stories aren't my thing. I don't even go to that forum. But as long as people who don't agree with them try to stick their opinion down my throat,I'm going to defend the authors. If you don't like what you are reading,turn off your computer. How hard is that?

[Rawr]

Have you read anything I've said, Pete? At what point am I 'sticking my opinion down your throat'? Please enlighten me.

In fact, in my first post, I actually said:

that's just one viewpoint (one I happen to agree with), and it's not something that I think should be forced onto others.

"You,as a reader have the CHOICE to ignore it or not to ignore it."

I agree, that's very true - but what I'm suggesting is that stories need clearer signposting so that people can make an INFORMED CHOICE into whether or not they want to start reading a particular story or not.

Why take such great offence to that? In what way have I attempted to restrict your liberties? By your own admission this isn't something that concerns you as you don't visit the forum - so I think that it's more of a case of you sticking your oar in, rather than people trying to stick opinions down your throat...

Rx

[curiositykilledthecat]

umm how do you shove an opinion on a web forum?

As I said before, don't read the stories if you don't like em. I never got the point of them, however to each their own.

[PampersPete]

Have you read anything I've said, Pete? At what point am I 'sticking my opinion down your throat'? Please enlighten me.

In fact, in my first post, I actually said:

that's just one viewpoint (one I happen to agree with), and it's not something that I think should be forced onto others.

I agree, that's very true - but what I'm suggesting is that stories need clearer signposting so that people can make an INFORMED CHOICE into whether or not they want to start reading a particular story or not.

Why take such great offence to that? In what way have I attempted to restrict your liberties? By your own admission this isn't something that concerns you as you don't visit the forum - so I think that it's more of a case of you sticking your oar in, rather than people trying to stick opinions down your throat...

Rx

I didn't really mean you in particular. Although it's kind of funny mentioning a rating system. By implementing a"code"system,aren't you advocating that DD himself fly over to your house and hold your hand as well? I mean,c'mon bro. You're how old? I know we're into infantile things and all but it's getting kind of ridiculous on these boards. A rating system for diaper stories so we don't offend anyone? REALLY? And people wonder why I hate it when the government can't stay out of personal lives......

[Knuxie Fawks]

I agree with DD on the reasons behind these stories, and I don't think anything should change unless something actually happened to where someone accused us of being pedophiles because they were searching through the stories on this site. Also, from everything I've read, I haven't seen any pedophilia in the stories. It's mainly just been a parent upset with their child wetting or messing themselves and taking actions as a parent might do to punish the child. Pedophilia would be if an adult character were to sexually abuse the child or have some form of underage sex. When we, the members of this site, read these stories, we don't fantasize being the parent punishing a child in an objectively kinky manner. We want to be that child. We are the children. If we ARE the children, how can it be pedophilia?

[babykeiff]

All, are you suggeting censorship on ab stories where a minor is involved and diapered, and extending this censorship to images? IMHO, this type of censorship would validate outsiders beliefs that ab/dl = peodaphilia, and if/when that happens, we might as well close these sites.

If that type of censorship / restriction came into place, even the title of this forum 'Daily Diapers' would come into question.

When did we loose freedom of choice?

[Rawr]

are you suggeting censorship on ab stories where a minor is involved and diapered

*sigh*

I've never said that we should censor anything! Please, someone tell me where I've said "THIS IS WRONG AND IT NEEDS TO BE BANNED RIGHT NOW!".

All I'm suggesting is that there IS a proportion of the community who don't wish to read stories that involve minor characters - and as such, it would be helpful to indicate what each story contains. Likewise, I imagine there are people who want to avoid stories that involve messing, or humilliation, etc etc. In which case, a simple code system, to be added as the thread's sub-heading, would make it easier for people to judge the content of a story before clicking the link.

extending this censorship to images?

My understanding of the law is that posting a photograph of a child on a website like this is probably illegal as, although it might not show any child abuse etc, by association it becomes legally dubious, taking into context the content of the site where it has been posted (and that's not even getting started on the person in the photo's privacy rights). And as I mentioned in my first post, in the UK at least, it's very possible that possession of a sexualised drawing where the age of the characters is questionable may well become illegal.

Also, from everything I've read, I haven't seen any pedophilia in the stories

There definitely are stories here where there is sexual contact between an adult and a minor. All I'm suggesting is that I wish to avoid such stories, as I'm sure other people do as well.

Rx

[Yvhuce]

Aside from being kids, legally and developmentally, teens are just too damn stupid to find attractive. What the hell would I want a 16 or 17 year old girl for? I never understood the concept, hell i rather be bought by an attractive cougar first and i don't like that idea either. As for the "stories" I don't read em.

I write as a hobby. As a writer, I have an interest in reading other people's works. As someone who likes diapers, I find myself gravitating toward diaper stories.

Here's the compromise:As long as DD let's me and sees nothing wrong with it,I'll continue to post stories with questionable ages in it. You,as a reader have the CHOICE to ignore it or not to ignore it. See how happy we are? I'll be honest,reading or posting diaper stories aren't my thing. I don't even go to that forum. But as long as people who don't agree with them try to stick their opinion down my throat,I'm going to defend the authors. If you don't like what you are reading,turn off your computer. How hard is that?

I'm not suggesting or advocating anything more than something that would help people who want to read stories figure out if a story's one that they want to read or not before clicking on it. As a writer, I also tend to hate people who try to tell me what to write. However, I have no problem with warning potential readers of just what they're going to be getting. Story titles simply aren't good enough, most of the time. And each topic has that little sub-title box to fill in when you create a topic. A ratings system with a few letters put in that little sub-title box would caution potential readers that the story may not be something they'd like. Conversely, it would also attract readers who're looking for that sort of content. You can't hold someone responsible for being offended by a story if you didn't warn them that the story had iffy content. If you warn them and they don't heed the warning, then it's 100% their own fault. I have nothing against you writing a porn story, unless you forget to warn me it's a porn story... Stick a little warning under that title and I'll steer clear of that porn story and have nothing bad to say about you for writing it.... See? If you want people to be more accountable for their decisions, then you have to enable them to make informed decisions, not force them to play russian roulette and get mad at them for getting shot and being a bit pissed-off about that...