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Well our younger daughter has gone back to college to do a Masters course, so it's just me and Mummy here now - and Binky of course. So we're back to having to hide my AB side a lot less. I thought I'd give a run-down of last night, as it was a pretty typical night for us, to try to give a flavour of how it all works out here. Night time is baby time for me - during the day there's a lot of grown-up stuff to do as well. At night I'm just a little.
I'll start with us sitting watching the television. I was cuddling Teddy. Some evenings I've got my dummy in my mouth as well, but not last night. Ten o'clock came round at the end of the programme, and Mummy said 'Bo-bos time, come on, off to bed'. I was sleepy so I wasn't going to make a fuss. I kissed Mummy and took Teddy upstairs to our bedroom, and put Teddy in bed. I dug a terry nappy and a washable soaker out of the bag under the bed and laid my overnight nappy out on the bed. I always use a Chinese fold, so I've got this down pretty well. I laid out a Snappi and two big safety pins next to my nappy. I got my jamas out from under the pillow and laid them out on the pillow ready to put on. This week it's my baby blue jamas with the big teddy on the front. Top off, shortalls off, onesie off, and then it was off to the bathroom in just my soggy nappy and plastic pants. I'd been in my nappy all day, so it was pretty heavy.
In the bathroom, and first thing is to brush my teeth. As usual I started wetting my nappy while I was brushing. After this, nappy off and into the wet nappy bag - I use a 'dry bag' for this, as used by canoeists. My plastic pants were good for overnight, so I put them to one side to take into the bedroom. Shower next. Really I should have shaved, but I was too tired, so I'll do that tonight. That'll be everything from neck down to knees, so it takes a while. I'll shave my face at the sink tonight. I shave once or twice a week, and I hate having to do it. Anyway, shower over, dry off and it's back to the bedroom.
Time to put my nappy on. I love this bit, although I'd love it even better if Mummy would change me. I lay back on the bed and pinned my clean overnight nappy snugly round me. Very secure, no risk of leaks, and no chance of an erection until morning - it really is a snug fit, and I'd be pointing down until the nappy comes off (btw it's still on now as I type). Plastic pants on, jamas on, dummy in mouth, and I hopped into bed. I lay down on my back, Teddy in my right arm, Pickle Bunny in my left arm, and Peter Rabbit in between. I read a few pages of a Moomin book until I went to sleep.
Much later, Mummy came up to bed. I half woke up as she got into bed, put Pickle Bunny on the floor, and took my dummy out of my mouth. (Pickle Bunny is a great big stuffed rabbit and there isn't room for all of us in bed at once.) Then Mummy fed me a bottle of warm milk, put my dummy back in my mouth, and I went off to sleep again.
At some point I must have half woken up to wet - I don't think I've ever wet in my sleep. Anyway I woke up in the early hours and cuddled Mummy until she rolled onto her back and raised her right arm so I could snuggle into her booby. I suckled for probably 20 minutes as Mummy went back to sleep. Then she rolled onto her right side, and I suckled on the other booby. Then I snuggled my face between her boobies for another 10 minutes. Baby heaven.
Eventually I spoke for the first time since I'd gone up to bed. 'Is it waking time Mummy?'. Mummy checked the clock and told me it probably was. 'Can I get up Mummy?' Mummy said yes so I kissed her and got out of bed. I brought Teddy and my bottle downstairs, got some breakfast and decided to post this. So I'm sitting here in a very wet overnight nappy, plastic pants, teddy jamas, a Harry Potter dressing gown and my red slippers.
...and that's pretty much how it goes every night. I'm a lucky baby.
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I helped to get Mummy's breast milk flowing when she had our kids, with encouragement from the visiting nurse. She was a bit hesitant about suggesting it, not wanting to gross us out, but of course that was never going to happen. And no, the nurse wasn't present when we did this! Unfortunately Mummy never had spare milk for me. I didn't want to get my AB side mixed up with bringing up real babies, so these was no more breast milk for me, unfortunately. I sort of went into the closet again until the kids had grown up. Now I'm on the breast nightly, but no milk of course. Mummy feeds me a bottle every night though.
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We're still holding out here. I'm still in shortalls or shorts during the day, and the heating's not on yet. Our bedroom window's still open. I'm still picking courgettes (zucchini) in the garden as well. But colder weather's coming, so I'll be in dungarees soon.
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17 hours ago, Little Sherri said:
I wanted to take a moment to comment on the quality of the onesies (snap-T's, diaper shirts) that I've bough from Rearz over the years.
I've never had a Rearz onesie, so perhaps I ought to get one to road test. I'm very impressed with ABU onesies though. Once I found which ones were the right size (medium long for me) I haven't looked back. Great heavy duty material, good cut to cover my cloth nappies completely. One's had a couple of popper failures, probably due to a bad batch of poppers, but other than that, they're perfect for me.
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6 hours ago, oznl said:
It seems a truly functional 24 hour nappy remains commercially elusive.
It's probably just as well. We'd be getting pretty whiffy by the end of the 24 hours.
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Has my Covid shot on Wednesday. My arm was slightly sore on Thursday, then I was red hot all night Thursday night. I was fine after that, & slept OK last night. My flu jab is on Wednesday. My other half's immunity system is dodgy, so I try not to take chances. Off to a big AB get-together today, so I thought I'd better get the Covid jab in before that.
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6 minutes ago, oznl said:
I'm not sure why they exist.
They exist so I can go on ridiculously long walks without chafing. No other reason as far as I can see, so I'm surprised they're economically viable. I don't go on those walks that often, after all.
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2 hours ago, DiapergirlWB said:
Also i feel focusing on it and thinking about it are counter productive like with my daywetting it's gotta become on non issue.
Me too. I just let things happen. It doesn't worry me whether I wet in my sleep or not. Wetting the rest of the time just happens anyway these days, without me having to think about it. As an AB, not feeling responsible for my wetting and not worrying about it is part of what I am these days. The key to it all was way back when I cracked how to nappy myself securely for both day and night, and when I started wearing onesies full-time so there was no risk of anyone inadvertently seeing my nappy or plastic pants. Since then I've just steamed ahead as a confident toddler.
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6 hours ago, oznl said:
There's an emerging body of evidence from the current cohort of 24/7 adherents that bedwetting is actually the FIRST symptom to arise, not the last as the classic "guide" suggests.
...but not for everybody. I'm over 3 years into full-time wearing and still haven't wet in my sleep, as far as I'm aware. There's no reason I can see, as I wet pretty much automatically the rest of the time without even thinking about it.
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5 minutes ago, Greybird said:
I was in France recently and decided to improve my spoken French. I was told one of the best ways was to read Tintin or Asterix books in their original French. I bought a few and love them, and my French is certainly a lot better
I've got all the Asterix books in French and every now & then I read them all again. I just love them. They're really a lot funnier in French, as there's a lot of visual puns that don't translate. They work for both my little and adult sides at the same time. The better your French, the more you can get out of them. Back in the day when I started collecting them, if you bought a French language Asterix book in the UK there was usually a crib sheet in English explaining what was going on when it wasn't obvious. They were really useful.
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18 hours ago, Little Sherri said:
Here is yet another question that I think I'm going to post in the survey section... do any of you folks use baby oil?
No. Is it just a solution in search of a problem? My cynical adult side suspects so. Same with powder. Anyway, I use neither (& we didn't while we were raising our real kids either). Sudocrem to avoid & treat rashes and friction sores and that's about it. I still use Bodyglide sometimes, but only when preparing for a long walk. My baby side doesn't worry about any of that, as long as I don't get sore.
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No. Never. I don't look back, instead I march merrily into the future, securely nappied for ever. I really can't see that ever changing. I've worn full-time for years now, and never regretted it for a moment.
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Well that buries for good my vague intention to try epilation at some point. I've put it off for a long time, but now that's for ever. I'll stick to my trusty disposable razor. No idea what the crack about the weather here's about though: it's already 8am & it hasn't rained all morning. So far.
As for needing some wine, I'm drinking on a 2 months off, 1 month on basis this year. For my health mostly, but it's saving a shedload of money on the side. I've just done July and August dry, and today's the 1st of September. Tonight I'm camping out, ready for 5am start tomorrow, walking 45 miles across Wales. The wine's already packed, as are the necessary nappy changes. If I feel 'not too bad' tomorrow night I'll be doing pretty well. I can feel my upper lip stiffening as I type, in anticipation.
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Yes, they're all over the place. I usually manage to remember where they're likely to be though, and most of them are stashed in the garage or under the bed. I suppose I don't worry about it much these days.
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Congratulations Bob. I took the same big decision to tell my then girlfriend 30 years ago. It's hard to do isn't it? Now we have two grown-up kids and I'm in nappies full-time. We both do our best to look after each other, and it's really worked out well for us. I hope the same comes true for you - good luck with it!
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14 hours ago, longislandguy said:
Should I just leave the feeling alone instead?
That's what I've always done. I'm wearing full-time anyway, so when those last drops come out doesn't matter to me. And trying to do something about it goes against the grain for me, when I want no control over my wetting at all. It's never caused any problems, if that's what you're worrying about.
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3 minutes ago, Little BabyDoll Christine said:
The vid went bye-bye
I think it'll only be available in the UK. I can view it OK.
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42 minutes ago, oznl said:
I expect this will all come out sooner or later. I’ll get admitted to hospital for something or another and either they’ll wonder why I pee the bed, or, discover a nappy on me after in the ER after I get hauled out of an ambulance or both. What a silly predicament to build for ourselves. I just want to be left alone with my secret. Only I and the whole internet know that I wear nappies not because I HAVE to but because I CHOOSE to and that I DON’T know why.
I guess that can is kicked a little further down the road, again…
I guess there's quite a few of us in a similar position. I don't worry about it much though. If I end up in hospital it'll have to be in nappies. I wouldn't risk going anywhere unpadded now. I've still no idea whether I could stop wetting if the urge came, but frankly I doubt I've got that control any more. So if (or more likely when) I get outed in medical circles I'll have to own up to being IC & face the music I suppose. Which I should think would be referring me to an IC consultant for a lecture on the options: pelvic floor exercises, drugs, surgery. And then I'll say that Kegel doesn't work for me (a white lie), and that drugs and surgery are definitely out. And then, I imagine, they'll leave me to my nappies in peace.
My AB side is a different matter. In hospital I'd be desperate for my dummy and Teddy, but I suppose I'd have to manage without. I could do that. And Betterdry nappies rather than cloth or baby prints.
What's on my mind a bit more is what happens if I live to be so old I can't really manage to look after myself any more. My mother's in that position now and we have to help her a lot. Who's going to change my nappies when I can't do it myself any more? I can see me having to tell my daughters all of the story at some point.
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7 hours ago, oznl said:
There’s no doubt that there’s bulk involved with adult cloth nappies that are capacious enough to be viable. There’s also gravity, especially after those nappies have seen a bit of action. For me, those “shapewear” pants (think: “Spanx boy-shorts” or similar) really come into their own with keeping cloth nappies in place and flattening out bulges. You’ll definitely need the +1 size jeans and an overhanging shirt helps a lot.
High waist plastic pants help too as unlike a disposable, 100% of your nappy needs to be covered. The wicking characteristics of cloth are superb.
Stay on top of laundry and remain wary that cloth has no odour control.
They are brilliant in bed though (my preferred attire there is simply t-shirt, nappy and plastic pants). Assuming you have a cloth product that doesn’t have denuded-side padding, I find that my position in bed when I pee is completely irrelevant.
All that! Apart from the overhanging shirt & Spanx, which I can get away without. I think that's largely because I'm reasonably slim & wear heavy duty oversize cargo shorts in the summer months (& dungarees in the winter). I don't try to wear terry squares during the day - they're really bulky and can fall down. Velcro or side-poppered pocket nappies work much better for daytime for me. I can conceal plenty of soaker power in the crotch of a pocket nappy cover. What you want to avoid is excess padding at the sides and particularly at the front. You can get away with a lot in the crotch and at the back. Good luck with it Little Sherri!
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I had sewing my own as a backstop, but now I don't need to. Drying is an issue, and every 2 days our tumble-dryer is going for about 2 hours drying my nappies. It takes that long to dry my overnight terry squares, so anything that can dry in the same time or less is OK with me. Soaker pads that you have to fold up will dry OK, but multi-layer pads won't, in general. Man-made fibre nappies will dry OK, but thick cotton nappies won't.
It'd be nice to be able to line-dry in the summer, but we don't have enough privacy here for that to be practical. I can line-dry my onesies though, as they look pretty much like T-shirts on the line if you don't get too close.
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No. It's easier for me to wash my own. I'd be supportive of such services being there though, if it encourages more people to change to cloth. As an AB I don't care what nappies I'm in as long as they work properly. As a part-time adult I feel I need to do my part for the environment and reduce landfill and plastic pollution as much as practical.
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My old booster pads are starting to reach the end of their life, so I've been looking for replacements. Perhaps booster pads isn't the best term, as when I'm in pocket-style nappies, they are the only absorbent part, so they're crucial rather than an extra. My old booster pads are a few years old, and from a supplier I no longer deal with, as they owe me money for an order not fulfilled a few years ago. The pads are good ones though: cotton and about 50cm by 50m (20" by 20"). Folded in three they work really well and they're very absorbent. Crucially they dry as quickly as the terry squares I use for my nighttime nappy. Sadly nothing lasts for ever though, and the cotton is starting to disintegrate. One by one I'm having to throw them away. So, what could I replace them with that's easily available here in the UK?
First I bought a couple of boosters from Nappies R Us. £4.99, and about 50cm by 20cm (19" by 8"). They are quite thin and made of man-made fibre. I wasn't convinced I wanted them for my daily wear - I'd prefer natural fibre. Secondly I bought a couple from Cuddlz. Slightly shorter than the Nappies R Us boosters, £12.99, and made of multiple layers of terry cotton. These work much better, being very absorbent. The downside though is that they take ages to dry. I'm not prepared to keep the dryer running for long enough to dry them out completely, so I'd need to air dry them for a couple of days after their time in the dryer. I can find a bit of discreet space to dry a couple, but not enough for a full washing machine (10 or 12?) so they're not the solution. I'll probably wear them overnight though.
Next I went looking for baby nappies to use as boosters. Most were 60cm by 60cm (2ft square), which is too big for me. A booster 60cm long gives me an unfortunate bulge at the front. Then I found some 50m square nappies on Amazon from merrygoround.co.uk. Cotton and bamboo, soft as anything, they give my nappies an extra bounce! £37.50 for 12, and they're maybe 2/3 as absorbent as my old ones. So I'll be using 3 of these instead of 2 of the old ones. I just love these.
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...and I woke early in the morning, dummy still in my mouth, still cuddling Teddy. It was about 5:30 so I tried to get back to sleep, and dozed for a while. At 7 I decided it was time to get up. The rain was pouring down on the tent, but I didn't need to leave it yet. Jamas off, nappy off, and a quick wipe down with a very cold wet flannel - eek! Clean nappy on - again an Overnight with two boosters. Plastic pants back on, my bright red onesie with the animal alphabet on it, and my blue 'vanilla' shortalls, and I was ready for the day. Breakfast in the tent, I managed to pack everything in in a gap between the showers. By 8 I was on my way, via the campsite bins to dump my wet nappies - properly wrapped of course.
I had business to do near Glasgow in the morning, not AB-related, which is why I had no time to recharge the electric car. By 10:30 that was dealt with, so I headed over to Edinburgh for the next AB meet. Again I got there just before it opened. That's not usually me - I'm usually late - but on Sunday I got it right, and queued with everyone else at the door. This was an event I'd been to before a number of times, so I knew there'd be people there I knew. It's a really good venue this one - they used to be in a really poky building in the city centre, but now they're in a spacious modern building on an industrial estate that works really well. This was an AB-only event, with no nudity allowed, which was a bit of a relief for me after the pony girls and other see-through tops in Leeds. The trouble is, as soon as I see boobies I just want to latch on, and that's not generally acceptable behaviour with people you don't know. Of course I always behave myself, like a good boy, but it can be a bit upsetting.
Well I had a good time at this event too, and I managed to be a bit more sociable this time. Sometimes I don't really feel like talking, and I always do a lot more watching. This time I did talk to lots of people as well, including an 18-year-old boy at his first event. I remembered how terrified I'd been at my first AB event about 35 years ago, and we did what we could to put at his ease. He had a good time anyway! This time I didn't join in the games as they started while I was having an afternoon nap, but I watched them instead. Really my little self is a bit too small to understand party games, so I'm better off just watching.
The event was due to end at 6, but I left at 5 as I had a 4-hour drive ahead of me. I missed story time
But at least I could drive home with my dummy in my mouth, still half in little land. The rain on the motorway was heavy and so was the traffic, so I was glad to get home. I put a top over my red onesie and shortalls before going inside, as I expecting out daughter would be there, and so she was. Dinner was on the table, and as I hadn't had a proper meal for two days I was glad of that. Food, an hour unwinding in front of the television, then shower, clean nappy and bed, with a glass of milk. Teddy, dummy, a few pages of Terry Pratchett, and I was out like a light.
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I'm sitting here in shortalls with my dummy in my mouth to write this. Mummy's in the other room watching the television. It's a busy day for me - washing day. Monday's usually washing day. Not nappies today - I wash them every other day, and this week is a Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday week for washing nappies.
I suppose I should write a bit about my weekend. Two littles' meets in two days, plus a lot of driving on busy roads. I had a great time, but I'm a bit tired now. Thursday morning I switched to disposable nappies ready for going away. I always like that - the start of a holiday, even though this one was going to be just the two days. So on Thursday I washed nappies and started with my packing for the weekend. Plus other stuff such as going over to visit my mother (my birth mother) to check she was OK after recent spells in and out of hospital. On Friday I did the week's food shopping and finished my packing. Both a bit complicated. I wanted to buy food to keep me going for a couple of days without cooking facilities, and I've just discovered that my 50-year problems with my digestion are largely down to gluten intolerance. So no bread, pastry, cake, pasta etc. Gluten-free bread exists but it's all pretty revolting. So my weekend was planned round crisps (that's potato chips for you in the US), gluten-free biscuits, milk (of course) and apples to pretend I was having a healthy diet. Oh, and I took some leftovers from the fridge so I had a decent meal lined up for Saturday night. The trouble with adopting a gluten-free diet is that I don;t really know the ropes yet.
As for the packing, I had to plan for two AB events plus a night in a tent between the two. I decided to wear shortalls and an AB onesie for the entire weekend, although I packed a vanilla onesie and a pair of cargo shorts just in case. And I had a top I could wear over the onesie/shortalls, so when necessary I could make the onesie invisible and the shortalls look like shorts.
I set off late on Saturday morning for a 1 1/2 hour drive over to Leeds, mostly on the very busy M62 motorway. I took Mummy's car - mine's electric and my schedule for the weekend meant I wouldn't have time to recharge the car on the way. So I had to get used to the gearbox again - I usually remembered to change down before coming to a halt and stalling, but not every time. Anyway I arrived at the venue just before it opened at 1pm, in an industrial area just behind a tyre-fitting workshop. There was a handful of others there already, but nobody I recognised. It was my first time at this particular venue, but I was expecting to find one or two people I knew. I was in my 'vanilla' shortalls - dark blue, with the buttoned crotch and sewn-up flies not at all noticeable. The dummy ribbon was a bit of a giveaway I suppose. My onesie on the other hand was bright blue and featured lots of trucks. I'm always shy, but I did get chatting to people as we waited, and then the doors opened and we filed in.
I changed into my Lego shoes and my red shortalls once inside. And refilled my sucky cup with milk, as I'd been drinking from it on the drive. My red shortalls are not vanilla at all. Bright red with huge yellow buttons, including yellow buttons fastening the crotch. And Moomintroll on the front pocket.
The event was very good. Lots of littles, some games such as pass the parcel. As usual most of the crowd was much younger than me - mostly in their 20s I'd say. Where are the older ABs? Staying at home I think. The sex balance was about 50/50, and there were some furries, plus a couple of pony girls. Most of the males were in nappies and some of the females, which in my experience is pretty typical. Some carers as well. There was a room set aside for nappy changes, although in the end I didn't need it. I'd put on an Overnight with a couple of extra soakers after breakfast, and it easily lasted the day. I spent quite a long time in a high chair, pretending I couldn't get out, and eventually I was rescued - thank you Evie!
The event was due to end at 6, but I left about 5, as I had a 4-hour drive north ahead of me. I said my goodbyes and hit the road. I headed for a campsite I've stayed at before, in the Scottish Borders, and arrived there just before 9, just after a heavy bout of rain. Thankfully it had stopped my the time I arrived, so I got the tent up as quickly as I could, and managed to do this just before the next heavy shower started. So now I was in my tent, dry (on the outside), with the next job being to get showered. This can be tricky at campsites here if you're not conventionally dressed. Still in my tent I took off my wet nappy and dressed again, still in my plastic pants. Then it was a dash to the shower block. Where I discovered that although the shower cubicles had doors, the changing area was communal, and there was nowhere in the shower cubicles to hang clothes. And there's me in a clearly AB onesie, shaved from knee to chin, with a very small towel. Well, there was nobody else in there, so I just risked it. I was lucky: nobody else came in for a shower, so I got away with it. A very quick shower, a very quick rub down with the towel, and dressed as quickly as possible, with heart in mouth.
Safely back in the tent I had something to eat, and quickly conked out for the night. Dummy in mouth, cuddling Teddy.
To be continued in the next thrilling instalment...
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how can i play with lego at 25?
in Little Boy's Tree Fort
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I've got some Lego, but I'm more into Meccano really - my generation. All metal, all second-hand, and a lot of it. I'm building a big crane just now.