abkarolyn

have been playing with the idea, but have not had much sucess as of yet. the best that i have been able to achieve is to occasionally create a feeling of needing to go, but that is it

Has anyone been experimenting with the tens units any further, or is this thread pretty much dead?

@roasalie What my entire argument is and has been about is not your opinion. It is what you put forth as a statement of fact, not a statement of opinion. There is a world of difference between the two. If indeed your statement is opinion, please state such. People do make mistakes, and I believe that you are no exception. Now on the other hand if your statement is indeed a statement of fact, I would still like to know what experience or qualifications that you posess (in specific) that put you in a place to make such a statement of fact. We are all entitled to our own opinions, and you and I are no exception. I think a large part of this on my end anyways is how things are phrased. It can make a large amount of difference in the way things are taken. I learned this fact a long time ago, when I was still fresh in sales and marketing.

@rosalie First your statements appear to be meant as nothing more than inflamatory, and that is something that bettypooh already warned about. Second, Though you have a BS, I would like to know what the field is that gives you the expertice AND experience to pass judgement on a persons' level of functionality (again) based solely on the presence or absence of visiable paraphinalia. If you can show the years of clinical experience where you were working under the supervision of a MD or PHD that can be verified, I am willing to listen. As I stated before and I will restate here. Your claim about a persons level of functionality is an undefendable position untill you can show proof of what you are claiming in a direct, non-confrontational way. Evidence that others can look at and evaluate for themselves, and not rely on your say so. This is not too much to ask, and if positions were reversed, I would be willing to show the expertise or experince so that the playing field is level. This is something that so far you have been unwilling to do (show specific experience or qualifications); as is evidenced by your inactions, not general ones that without supporting information may or may not apply to the situation. Third, lets talk about the "avoiding the question garbage" is about the fact that you are asked direct questions, again as evidenced by your continued actions, you either do not answer the question at all (like you did mine for two consecuative times), or you give a partial answer. What I mean by partial answer is you give a generalized answer, but very rarely do you go into specifics to back up your claims. And when it starts to become clear that a position that you put forth is undefendable, you (so far) either refuse to retract said statement, or you seem unwilling to simply come out and state that such and such is what you want. Either way would not only allow you to save face, but would also help to build respect for your ideas and ideals. It also would help to eliminate some of the alination and potential resentment that I sense coming forth from the boards here towards you

No, do not use any powders. The diapers that i use are Bambinoes

I have used foley catheters before with diapers and found something that i am not quite sure what to make of. After about 5 to 8 days with the cath in, i find that they get plugges with a yellowish, non-smelling, non slimy, but somewhat pasty gunk. It is kind of like something that is just simply dry and flaky, kindof like dandruff so to speak. Does anyone know what to make of this? have spoken with a couple of medical people and they all have said that it does not sound like any UTI that they have heard of

@rosalie First let me say congratulations on your bachalors in science. I still question however how that qualifies you to pass judgement on my level of functionality based SOLELY on the prescence or absence of paraphinallia. Please explain this so that others and myself can see how this applies. Next lets look at what you seem to be getting at in terms of unwanted attention. You are correct that AB and TG are not the same thing. They are closely linked however in the fact that how one presents oneself is an outward expression of his or her inward state at the time. Perhaps also to thier core. The point that I am making here is that if one cannot present as who they are, there is indeed a huge problem. You say that society understands the need for TG's to transition. Lets look at this for a moment. If this is indeed the case, why are there so many examples of TG being murdered, beaten, fired, etc for simply being who and what they are? I could expand this list ad infinitum, but I think that you get what I am getting at here. Am I shooting the messenger, no. What I am doing is showing how you have put forth an undefendable position when you stated that someone is dysfunctional based on the presences of paraphnallia. You have yet to state that this is in your oppinion, which would be entirely different. Instead, you stated it in a clinical fashion, as a statement of fact. Now lets look at the number of posts that I have put here. The number of posts that I have put here are not the whole of my experience, nor have I ever claimed such. That is an inaccruate conclusion that you seem to have drawn. If you are trying to say that the points that I am bringing up have less weight somehow due to the fact that I have fewer posts on this board than others, you are setting a different problem. That problem is that you seem to be linking the number of posts to experience and also qualifications. That kind of mindset is exactly what is wrong with society today in the workforce. You need the experience to get the job, but you can get the experience without getting the job. I think you get the idea here. If instead you were attempting to get at that due to the small number of posts that I have you have somehow place less wieght on what I say rather than someone who has many posts, then you are running into elitesm. I have 15 years experience in marketing and sales, and yet i learn something from even the new person with no experience due to the fact that I keep an open mind about they my have an idea that I dont, may know something that I dont. I do my best to avoid eliteism thinking for that is the deathknell of anyone, and indeed of creative thought itself. Now if On the other hand I have missed something, lets discuss that and I will gladly let you know my thoughts and where I stand on that. As far as shooting the messenger, I am only bringing out what you have typed, and showing how it could all too easily be taken.

@rosalie First, you did not answer my question and instead tried to make it about potentially unwanted attention. This is evident by your quote " @ABKAROLYN I get what you mean by hiding who you are and how that is often intrinsically unfair. But pretending it ain’t so is just silly. It would be great if adult babies were able to dress as themselves openly in public - but they can’t. And it is unlikely to change in our lifetimes. We have to learn to live with that. We’ve already seen the merciless media assassination of a public figure than merely wears diapers, never mind engages the entire AB behavioural spectrum. Do you really want the same thing to happen to you? Say a reporter takes a photo of you and prints it in the media? Do you want that kind of attention? Because you know what the vast majority of uninformed public opinion will be: deviant, pedophile, child molester etc etc. Why put yourself at risk like that?" First I will respond to the question that you asked in your quote. It is very simple and you may have trouble getting your head around it, but that is ok. My response is I would not care about the attention as it would not bother me in the least as I know the truth and that is what matters. Now back to the question that I asked you. What are your qualifications to pass judgement on my level of functionality based SOLELY on the presence or absence of paraphinalia? Now since you want to throw open the door of potentially unwanted attention, I am more than willing to oblige you here as I have a vast amount of experience that you cannot refute, cannot explain it away. Lets take a look at the transgendered community. Many of us eventuyally realized that we were not as we appeared to be. We eventually came to understand that in order for our very survival it becomes paramount that we change our outward appearance to match that with which we identify. In my case I was born male, but am in a very many ways, including in my head, female. A good majority of us eventually become ostracised by our friends and family and often even our workforce when we say enough is enough. When we stand up for our rights to be who and what we are, society throws back at us. Tries to slap us back where it thinks that we should be, often demands where we chould be. The emotional effects of this are chilling to anyone with half a heart and half a brain. over half of all transgendered individuals will attempt suicide before the age of 20. Many are forced to move away from our homes and family to be who and what we are. the emotional toll is astounding and it is something that few can truly appreciate unless they are themselves trans. Those that are trans eventually say enough is enough and begin to forge thier own paths, not caring what others think, how others see them. They begin to surround themselves with true friends and family. Those friends that will support them even if they do not agree with the decisions that are made. Family that will lend a shoulder to cry on, a hand to pick you up. Now since you wanted to open this door, do you really want to continue down this road, or do you want to turn around and actually answer a very simple question of which you have so far refused to answer and is therefore leading credence to the implication that you do not have the qualifications to pass the judgement that you have passed and have as of yet retracted that statement either. Not to mention that your strident defense of your position without giving your qualifications on the judgement that you have passed is also showing that you may not have the expertise or qualifications to have written the book that you have.

First let me say that the idea of hiding who and what you are, even if for a short time is exactly what is wrong with society today as a general whole. It is precisely that kind of additude that has led to the stigmatization of TG's and many other groups, and does not help to promote an inclusive eviornment to be able to achieve the kind of results that you are most likely looking for. Second, you called anyone that cannot go without visible signs and paraphinallia of AB dysfunctional. This is a paraphrase of what you stated, but I believe that it captures the essence of what you were saying. This kind of thinking and trying to force others to act within this kind of narrow box is once again indiciative of my first point. There is not about maybe two hours where there is not some visible sign of me being an AB present. I have even gone into restaraunts dressed in vary babyish clothing with my binki in my mouth and carrying my baba. The cashier asked me if I was having a baby day. My answer was "Yes I am" In my belief it is not about hiding who and what you are, but having the comfortability with who and what you are to be able to take what comes your way without letting it affect you. Furthermore, the mere fact that you would pass judgement as to peoples level of functionality based on the mere presence or absence of "paraphinallia" is disturbing and I would like to know what qualifications that you possess to be able to pass that kind of judgement on others.

I currently occasionally wear while at work and when I change what i do is reach into my bag and grab a fresh one and slide it inbetween my diaper and the front of my pants. then i head off to the bathroom and change, disposing of the used on in the garbage bin at work. I sit in a cubicle at work and no one seems to notice, or if they do they have not said a darned thing. I walso work in a rather small office (only around 10 or so emplyess) so everyone eventually sees something.

I have finally got things financially almost undercontrol again and hope to start a modified 12 month training program. Due to my living situation i cannot really change the diatary aspect as there are allergies to most of the things in the diet (I also do most of the cooking for the household). My general idea is to wear 24/7, and let myself go whenever i feel the urge. Also the other modification is the use of a tens unit for the first month with two pads just on the ouside of the butcrack, and the other two pads just a little bit above the penis in the front. The idea with the tens is to help work the some of the nerves that help with the bladder. Working the tens unit for about 5 hours a day for the first month then letting that go by the wayside. The evntual goal is to hopefully achieve both bladder inco and fecal inco within the first year if possible. The reason for this is to also hopefully allow the eventual attempt at retraining, though i do not believe that i would be upset if not able to retrain. Please let me know your thoughts and ideas.