ABWriter

Nope, just a HUGE GTA fan.

Very interesting, jenniebear. I also am in agreement with you. It sounds to me like you are more balanced. I have very very very mixed feelings about the so called ABDL community that I will elucidate at another time, but I see where you are coming from here. I do have a question. I went to the site linked to above, a Dom/Sub site and I posted in the AB thread where many people didn't seem receptive to the AB lifestyle. Anyway, I noticed something interesting, so I will ask it here as I did there. What is it with this "no sex" for the AB stuff? A few AB's posted that if you were into this fetish that you could hope to find a mommy/daddy to care for you and even diaper and change you, but no sex. Okay regardless of anything else, that doesn't sound even remotely healthy. Why would a man or woman's fantasy or fetish preclude sex with the partner they love? I don't get it. Oh and what is the capital and lowercase slash syntax you are using? I don't understant things like W/we or O/our.

Very funny you mention this, because it touches on something I find very interesting, that being the truly loving sense of domination, without the overtly violent part of the equation so common in Bondage and discipline. I have dated a lot of women and I have dated some kinky ones. One girl was totally into tying guys up and she was definitely a Dom. Since I have always had age play fantasies, and have found myself attracted to very maternal women, I assumed I would like the Dom girls. I could never get into then though, and in fact, never enjoyed that kind of role play. Oh I did it to make the girl happy and please her in bed, but it did nothing for me. My attraction to the Mommy archetype, I realized, was one of a LOVING woman, a nurturing, caring and sensual goddess, not some nasty, mean spirited dominatrix hell bent on taking pleasure from my pain. I suspect the same is true for you jenniebear, in that you want a loving daddy, someone to hold you and tell you everything is alright. Someone who can discipline you without so much as raising his voice. In short, someone who can control you completely with a kiss and with kindness, not with a penchant for causing you pain and suffering. You sound like you want to be reassured even while being disciplined, controlled with a wonderful cajoling and that instead of being "punished" with pain, you are led to your Daddy's will by kind and patient instruction and sensual loving. I could be way off base here, but does this make any sense?

This particular discussion has several interesting levels. The first level is a re-stating of what so many people are admonishing the Original Poster about, which is "Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it!" It is VERY important to learn the wisdom of separating real life from fantasy. If you have the fantasy to be incontinent and thus NEED diapers, then by all means enjoy it. That's what fantasies are for. If you happen to find a significant (or perhaps not so significant) other to share in it with you then so much the better. However, what some people in this community are wishing for, in the form of medical incontinence, might actually give you some pleasure in the very beginning (and I seriously wouldn't count on even that) but in the end, you will be saddled with quite the debilitating ILLNESS that accompanies said condition. Do any of you folks who want to be incontinent have the slightest idea of precisely what causes incontinence? If not, allow me to elucidate: 1. Neurological problems. Translated into English, this means paralysis or malfunction of one of the nerves leading to your bowel and/or bladder. Anyone wanna venture a guess as to what else these particular nerves supply? Take a minute and GUESS. No really, take a minute before reading on. I think you will get it if you really try. . . . . . . Your SEXUAL organs! How's that for fun and excitement? Does impotence also hold the same allure for you as being diapered and incontinent? Thought so. Seriously folks, some of the diseases that can bring about incontinence are Diabetis, BRAIN DAMAGE, severe spinal cord injury (usually this will paralyze you from the waist down), some Cancers, severe Kidney problems, and let's not forget Alzheimer's. Oh this all sounds like so much fun doesn't it? 2. Sphincter relaxation, usually due to age or degenerative conditions causing you to lose control of your rectal and/or urethral sphincters. Okay, admittedly this is not as bad as the first, but seriously, can you imagine what this would be like when the novelty wears off , assuming it was EVER actually fun in the firt place? While public humiliation fantasies may hold some allure for the AB and/or DL, actual humiliation, in the form of not being able to control your bodily functions holds the promise of a life filled with misery and shame. For God's sake, listen to the folks here who are incontinent, they are giving you some very good advice. Think of it like this: If you have a medical problem severe enough to cause loss of control, you have no options, no choice, no way to turn it off if you want or need to. You simply have to live with it. However, if you are healthy, and enjoy this particular fantasy, then you have a choice and you can choose to enjoy it to its fullest.

GTA games have a load of AB references. Here are a few: GTA III: 1. Some wacky British dude, a caller on one of the radio stations called Chatterbox, calls in and talks about how he needs a Nanny to spank him, and goes on and on about it, much to the chagrin of the talk show host, Lazlow GTA: Vice City 1. Another commercial on the VC radio where a guy named Fernando is talking about wearing medallions and he mentions men wearing medalions and diapers. Here is an excerpt from the segment: "Even singing medallions for the Casanova who knows music is the food of love. My old drains, thal houses, diapers, whatever your interest, we've got the medallion for you." GTA San Andreas 1. Same guy from VC, Fernando, talks about men who like to be regressed and how all men are like little boys. 2. Some Pedestrian asks the main character CJ, "Are you wearing a diaper?" GTA: Liberty City Stories 1. The lead character, Tony Cipriani is having an argument with his mother, who constantly questions his manhood. He mentions one of Tony's rivals as being "tougher" than him, and Tony tells her all about him wearing diapers and his fetish. She then says, "Diaper or no diaper, he's still a better man than you!" 2. There is a mission in the game when Tony accidentally catches this same guy in diapers. He is a mission giver, so this is a somewhat recurring theme in the game. The game makes a big deal out of it in this mission and the diapers seem VERY important to the plot of the storyline, at least with regard to this "boss" or mission giver. There are other references in the GTA series, but those are all I can think of right now. I will post more if I remember them or come across them again.

Hey everyone. I know how "new people" in a message board are usually not taken very seriously. However, I would like to offer a slighly different opinion that the majority here. I don't think this is a big deal. Well, let me rephrase: I think it is HORRIBLE that a young, innocent girl was molested by a wacko, and I hope he goes to jail or, if he is proven insane, gets the help he needs. So, from that standoint, it's a terrible thing. However, I don't see this as a big deal for the AB community. lol I think the guys who appear on talk shows, diapered and cooing, have the potential to do more "harm" to the reputation of infantilists than do a few lone crazies. Bottom line? This guy will be seen as a sicko criminal who deserves what he gets, period. What? Are you folks worried that the bad press will make it harder to come out of the hamper (lol sorry, I just thought of that metaphor) Are we planning a Diaper-Pride demonstration in a major city and are worried that, because of the actions of some weird pervert that we will have fruit thrown at us as we march down Broadway? Are we thinking the bad press will prevent us from finding our long sought after Mommy or Daddy, as it were? Are we afraid that Narcs are gonna raid those newly planned Diaper conventions in the Waldorf? Diaper fetishes are very secretive in nature for most people. For the rare few who have no problem with who knows about them, I am quite sure that they still could care less. In other words, most people here will continue with what they were doing and how they were doing it regardless of this. Come on folks, lighten up. If you are going to be saddened by anything in this regaard, be saddened by a world where innocent people like the young girl in the aforementioned news article can be molested on the street by a pervert, not by some unenlightened plattitude like "Oh my God, look how this will effect me and people like me!" Aside from everything else, MOST PEOPLE have never heard of this story. I know I didn't before stumbling across this thread. look, let me clarify something. In the Fifties and Sixties it was EVIL to be gay. Nobody talked about domination and submission fantasies, foot fetishes, rape fantasies and other role playing games, though of course they were just as prevalent, albeit not discussed. The AB/DL fetish has just not yet been "accepted" by society at large as "okay" like these other fetishes & lifestyles, and regardless of what happened with this poor teenager, it isn't likely to be any time soon. I seriously doubt anyone will even remember this in a year or two.