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TBCuri
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13 hours ago, randomanon said:
I do find it somewhat amusing that of the 3 stories that started this discussion, only 1 of them is now in the AI subsection. Just thought that was kinda funny/worth pointing out. It really is a "if you're honest you're punished" sort of thing. Which isn't entirely bad if your goal is to cut down on AI content, since eliminating the honest half is still eliminating half of it and I won't deny that AI content is on average worse.
I'm rewriting it anyway.
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These accusations truly are getting too much. 🤔
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16 hours ago, Babypants said:
Let's apply this to the writing of fiction. For the vast majority of us, the way we think and speak is far removed from being grammatically correct, and dialog and introspection should reflect this reality. Frankly, the vast majority of stories that appear here fail this test, yielding dialog that is stilted and artificial. Having one of these programs correct poor grammar would therefore be a positive in the narrative, but make a bad situation worse in the dialog. Do you always think in complete sentences?
In sum, there is at present no substitute for doing the hard work of learning how to write. You have to master the fundamentals, and deploy them in one paragraph only to junk them in the next. AI may get there at some point in the future, but it is certainly not there now.
20 hours ago, ValentinesStuff said:At this point, if I understand your steps correctly, I would say it's comparable to a Ghost Writer. Which, despite the way publishers list things, makes the AI the primary author. If the AI analysis were just fixing grammar and spelling, then then I would say it is written by a person.
I await your view on this.
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I will not affect the professional writers on this site.
But I am still the author of my word vomit, processed or not, because I am presenting a clean view of my perspective with what tool is available. Thank you. 🙂
Also PS: the winds of change has arrived, and the current culture is in a transformation stage, and so... I adapt. 🙂
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9 hours ago, ValentinesStuff said:
At this point, if I understand your steps correctly, I would say it's comparable to a Ghost Writer. Which, despite the way publishers list things, makes the AI the primary author. If the AI analysis were just fixing grammar and spelling, then then I would say it is written by a person.
6 hours ago, Babypants said:Let's apply this to the writing of fiction. For the vast majority of us, the way we think and speak is far removed from being grammatically correct, and dialog and introspection should reflect this reality. Frankly, the vast majority of stories that appear here fail this test, yielding dialog that is stilted and artificial. Having one of these programs correct poor grammar would therefore be a positive in the narrative, but make a bad situation worse in the dialog. Do you always think in complete sentences?
In sum, there is at present no substitute for doing the hard work of learning how to write. You have to master the fundamentals, and deploy them in one paragraph only to junk them in the next. AI may get there at some point in the future, but it is certainly not there now.
5 hours ago, ValentinesStuff said:I should have put in an exception for dialog, very rare is the person that speaks grammatically correct.
In everything I do online, I must present my very best else no one takes me seriously. And standing on the shoulders of giants is one of the best ways I know.
Thank you 🙂
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Bless you
2 hours ago, DailyDi said:Grrr, awake again
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5 hours ago, Babypants said:
I am confused.
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13 minutes ago, Babypants said:
At this point, you are looking at a work that should be credited to AI. To use an analogy, Robert Parker created the Boston private eye Spenser, but after his death the series was continued by Ace Atkins. Atkins is acknowledged as the author despite the fact that he did not create the character.
23 minutes ago, TBCuri said:Human applies and integrates AI analysis to draft 🙂
I meant this:
AI Analysis / Advice data transformed into information by Human to be refined and integrated into draft.
I await your response.
Thank you. 🙂
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20 minutes ago, TBCuri said:
On the terms of AI.
I'm talking about human draft curated by AI before the final result 🙂
Example:
Human create amateur draft (A full Chapter like draft)
Human Passes it through AI Analyzer
Human applies and integrates AI analysis to draft
Human looks over resulting draft
Human reforms weak filler with AI Analyzer
Human use AI to formats draft into satisfactory structure
Author? Human or AI?
I await your response.
Thank you. 🙂
26 minutes ago, ValentinesStuff said:I do not hate AI. I have found the AI stories I have read to generally be poorly written, and have major logic holes.
I find it dishonorable to try to pass off an AI written work as your own original work. And worse to deny AI created work was AI created.
I do my best to ignore and stay away from AI works.
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6 minutes ago, ValentinesStuff said:
I do not hate AI. I have found the AI stories I have read to generally be poorly written, and have major logic holes.
I find it dishonorable to try to pass off an AI written work as your own original work. And worse to deny AI created work was AI created.
I do my best to ignore and stay away from AI works.
On the terms of AI.
I'm talking about human draft curated by AI before the final result 🙂
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As one of the main writers have said, There's no grey area. So to clear my confusion, I will be direct.
Do you hate AI? Is it extremely dishonorable? Do you only barely tolerate it.
I await your response.
Thank you 🙂
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Here's my suggestion:
15 minutes ago, Elfy said:Whilst an interesting subject, peeps, we're getting off-topic
So, about the rules for the AI section...
Written: 100% Human generated creative elements including theme, plot, setting, characters, point of view and style with no recourse to machine generated content. Machine generated spell, grammar and format checking are permissible.
AI-Curated: Human generated theme, plot and setting. Machine tools may be used to inspire minor or incidental supporting content but this content must have been selected, edited or otherwise substantially transformed by humans and not used in its direct, machine generated form.
AI-Generated: Content where any of theme, plot, setting, characters, point of view and style were generated by machine.
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The Main Point of all this is that AI is not supported, it's only tolerated.
Besides it is their site, they can do whatever they want with it.
Also AI is still on the negative spectrum.
Surely you know that people would have their grievances.
PS: Wonderful debate but I'm on neither side. 🙂
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On 3/14/2025 at 7:41 AM, oznl said:
Probably outside the scope of this thread but whilst I will give you that it produces something that looks like the product of intelligence (indirectly, it is), it has no agency and is not of itself therefore, intelligent.
Yep, I used "word" instead of "token" to avoid alienating the 5% of the readers of this thread that I haven't already alienated 🤣 I didn't want to drag in another concept.
Interesting point. I guess I was aiming my commentary at those who feed in some initial data and press "play", waiting for fap-worthy material to spew forth 🤣
I accept that using an AI tool to in-fill the dumb stuff is a productivity booster and doesn't endanger the artistic merit of the venture: "Shrek" didn't happen by somebody painting 32 frames for every second.
I'm not sure what the right answer is for "AI-augmented" content as opposed to "AI-generated". The purist in me still wants to see this tagged somehow.
17 minutes ago, Lost Little Neppy said:There's going to be a lot of bias, and I say this as someone who is heavily biased when it comes to AI-generated stories.
I have issues with Grammarly and other apps and editing tools like that, but this isn't really the thread for it.
That being said, I don't want to get into othering. I don't want to get into "you're not a real writer." I don't want to get into "but also." I just want to read stories that I like.
10 minutes ago, randomanon said:I actually like this comparison. Why would a child going off-script on their paint-by-numbers book not be considered an artist? Not a particularly accomplished one, certainly, but it's not like they're just following the instructions anymore (which I would agree does not make them an artist). A child's scribbles is still art. Drawing a dragon eating the happy family of the coloring pages is still art.
The "tell an AI what to do and copy what comes out" style of word-smithing could be comparable to following a paint-by-numbers page. But that's not what I'm doing. It could quite reasonably be compared with the off-script paint-by-numbers artwork, where it's not starting from a blank page but it's also not just following the provided instructions.
If you want to purity test, I'm sure there's lots of people who would claim diaper fiction definitely isn't "real art" either.
That said, I'm not totally opposed to an AI containment area. But, like, why would I want to put my stories in there if I don't think they deserve to be thrown in the ghetto of "bad, low-effort writing here"
In my opinion tho.
Controversy is often useless and only brings anger, hurt and confusion. 🤔
Usually the longer it goes on the worse it gets.
Unless the two opposing sides can agree one thing. 🙂
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56 minutes ago, YourFNF said:
Honestly your probably right, I've been thinking about breaking out the old reliable orbital MAC strike to remind these weirdos to respect my diplomatic immunity...
Know this. The Mortal Sword can be broken, We must use Genesis And Wisdom if we must win!
Alright enough silliness for me. Really, if someone were to war against The DD... I can only say that only the Supernatural can fight against the Supernatural
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19 hours ago, YourFNF said:
Yeah this is why I don't come to this dimension, most of the locals are fucked in the head at least on the purge planets I can go hot without causing an incident *side steps an amazon woman trying to pick me up by the collar using my Sandivistan implant and my sec droid times the swing with it's electro-staff perfectly dropping her in an instant*
I tell you!
To war with the Amazons! On the path to Genesis! They shall be purified under my sword!
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OK! I'VE HAD ENOUGH!
TO WAR WITH THE FOLLOWING:
Aetherborns (The 'Evil' Magicians...etc)
The Amazons Dimensions
TO WAR!!
My Army will ready soon!
You better be ready!
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Hmm...
MTF isn't my cup of tea, But it is curious...
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Cherry’s Final Test: The Extra Rounds of Hell
Cherry had thought she was almost done. She had outlasted Tag but Physics is Drunk, conquered Hide-and-Seek in a Spatially Unhinged Realm, and even suffered through the Shiny Hunt from Beyond Time and Space.
She was so close to victory. So close to getting out of here alive with her sanity intact.
But then, Elyse clapped her chubby hands, eyes twinkling with unholy delight, and declared:
"Bonus round!!"
The Floor is Babies
At first, Cherry didn’t understand.
She had played The Floor is Lava before. Easy. Just don’t touch the floor.
But then the floor shifted, reality hiccupped, and suddenly—
Dozens of tiny Cherry clones filled the room.
They were adorable, giggling menaces, each no bigger than a loaf of bread, crawling over the plush surface and reaching for her with tiny hands.
"Big Me!" one of them squealed, its eyes wide with love.
"Hug!!" screamed another, launching itself like a baby missile.
"We wuv u!"Cherry barely dodged the first wave.
"NOPE. NOPE. NOPE."
She scrambled onto a stuffed giraffe, balancing for dear life as the adorable horrors swarmed.
Elyse, standing on her plush throne, cackled with pure, undiluted chaos.
"Careful! If they catch you, they’ll snuggle you to DEATH!"
Cherry was already dying—of embarrassment.
"THIS ISN’T A GAME! THIS IS TORTURE!"
But Elyse clapped again, and suddenly the babies could jump.
"WUV YOUUUUU—!"
One latched onto Cherry’s leg. Another grabbed her waist.
Cherry lost her balance.
She hit the floor.
And was immediately buried in a wriggling, cuddling, snugglepocalypse.
She screamed in horror.
She emerged five minutes later, panting, hair ruined, soul shattered.
Elyse gave her a slow, satisfied nod.
"Good job! You survived THE FLOOR IS BABIES!"
Cherry was never speaking of this again.
Tea Party of the Damned
Cherry sat at a tiny plastic tea table, legs barely fitting, across from Elyse.
The tea set was pink and blue, decorated with smiling, sentient faces.
The tea itself? Imaginary.
Cherry did not trust this tea.
"Drink!" Elyse beamed, pushing a cup toward her. "Or else the tea gets sad."
Cherry looked at the cup.
The cup looked back at her.
"Please drink me," it whimpered in a tiny, heartbreaking voice.
Cherry had never been more terrified in her life.
"I—uh—I don’t drink imaginary tea," she said carefully.
The entire room gasped.
The cups. The spoons. The tiny stuffed animals at the table.
Even Elyse clutched her chest like Cherry had just committed a crime against toddler-kind.
Cherry panicked. "OKAY! OKAY! I’LL DRINK IT!"
She pretended to sip.
The cup sighed in relief.
Elyse gave her a thumbs-up. "Good! Now the Tea Gods won’t be mad at you!"
Cherry did not ask for elaboration.
The Infinite Exit Hallway
Finally.
Finally.
Cherry stood before the exit door.
A glowing neon sign above it read: “OUTTA HERE”.
She had won.
But as she reached for the handle, Elyse snorted.
"Silly! That’s not the real door!"
The exit shimmered like a heat mirage—then split into three.
Three identical doors.
Each one labeled in crayon:
"Probably Safe!"
"Definitely Not a Trap!"
"I Forgot Where This One Goes!"
Cherry, exhausted beyond belief, groaned into her hands.
"WHY. WHY CAN’T I JUST LEAVE."
Elyse tilted her head, eyes wide with pure toddler mischief.
"Because... it’s funny."
Cherry let out a long, broken scream.
She picked the middle door, hoping for mercy.
The world blinked—
And she was standing outside the dungeon.
The sign around her neck had changed.
Now it read:
"Looking for Party. Also won at baby games. Ask me how."
Behind her, in the distance, she could hear a soft giggle.
And she knew—deep in her soul—
Elyse would always be watching.
THE END. For Real This Time!
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What on earth was the above?!
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⚠️WARNING⚠️: This is very unserious.
PS: Testing... Testing...
The Forgotten Playroom: Cherry vs. Elyse
A battle where logic takes a vacation, and a toddler holds the fabric of reality hostage.
Chapter 1: Entering the Madness
Cherry had seen some weird s*** in her time—cursed tombs, demonic contracts, even an old wizard who spoke exclusively in riddles and bad puns. But this?
This was next-level bull**.**
She had already suffered through a hallway that flipped upside down every time she jumped, a lullaby puzzle that required serenading a creepy teddy bear, and a game of tag with actual living rocking horses that had the audacity to mock her when she tripped.
And now, standing at the final chamber of The Forgotten Playroom, she felt like the universe was actively f***ing with her.
The room was massive, filled with giant stuffed animals, towering wooden blocks, and walls that looked suspiciously like they were made of soft pillows. The floor was somehow both solid and cushiony, like walking on a cloud that was also a trampoline.
At the center, perched atop a throne made of plushies and broken dolls, was Elyse, the Eternal Child.
A tiny thing—maybe three feet tall at best—with chubby legs that kicked lazily while she hummed a nonsense tune to herself. Her blonde curls bounced as she giggled at something that didn’t seem to exist, and her big blue eyes locked onto Cherry the moment she stepped in.
Reality shuddered.
Like a skipping record, the whole dungeon twitched around them.
"Ooooh! New friend!" Elyse clapped her tiny hands, nearly toppling off her throne.
Cherry, who had already lost the last shreds of her sanity several puzzles ago, just squinted. This... was the dungeon boss?
"Uh... hi?" she said, adjusting the Looking for Party sign around her neck.
Elyse gasped dramatically, hands flying to her cheeks. "Oh no! You lost your party?! Were they eated by the floor monsters?! Did they go poof?!"
Her lower lip trembled.
Cherry opened her mouth to protest, but before she could get a single syllable out, Elyse suddenly beamed like a sunrise on steroids.
"It’s okay! I be your party now!" she declared, jumping down from her throne.
The room twisted.
The air warped.
Cherry swore she felt her inventory rearrange itself.
And then, in a blink, Elyse was right next to her, gripping her hand with the strength of a thousand enthusiastic toddlers.
"LET’S PLAY!"
Cherry didn’t get a chance to argue.
Because the boss fight had already begun.
Chapter 2: A Battle Against Sanity
Game 1: Tag (With No Fing Physics)*
Before Cherry could even process what was happening, Elyse tagged her shoulder and vanished.
Literally.
She just phased out of existence and reappeared on the ceiling, upside-down, giggling like she hadn’t just broken half the laws of reality.
"You’re it!"
Cherry blinked.
Then Elyse took off running—across the walls, through portals that hadn’t been there a second ago, and at one point, straight-up mid-air.
Cherry gave chase, because what the f* else was she supposed to do?**
She leaped off a floating platform, dove for Elyse—
TAG!
The entire room flipped upside down.
Cherry crashed onto the new floor (which used to be the ceiling) and groaned.
Elyse stood beside her, completely unaffected, poking her cheek.
"You okay?" she asked sweetly.
Cherry lifted her face off the ground and glared.
"...You little s***."
Elyse just giggled.
And tagged her again.
Game 2: Hide-and-Seek (But the Room is Gaslighting You)
This time, Cherry was the seeker.
Which should’ve been easy.
Except for the fact that the entire goddamn room was actively conspiring against her.
Blocks shifted the moment she looked away.
Shadows whispered cryptic hints that made no sense.
One hallway looped infinitely, no matter which way she ran.
And somewhere, in the distance, Elyse was giggling.
Cherry stomped through the chaos, muttering curses under her breath.
"Okay, you little gremlin," she growled, pushing past a wall that shouldn’t exist, "you wanna play mind games? Let’s f***ing play."
She closed her eyes.
Took a deep breath.
And then—
She stopped looking for Elyse.
Instead, she pretended to give up.
Five seconds later—
"Cherry?"
Cherry lunged at the voice.
There was a squeak—
TAG.
Elyse yelped as Cherry caught her by the arm, victorious.
"GOT YOUR A," Cherry declared.
Elyse blinked.
Then, slowly—
A grin spread across her face.
"Oh, you sneaky!" she chirped. "I like you!"
Reality shivered.
The game changed again.
Game 3: The "Find the Shiny" Scam
Cherry was done.
Mentally. Emotionally. Spiritually.
And now Elyse had forced her into a treasure hunt where the item kept changing every goddamn second.
At first, it was a golden rattle.
Then a silver pacifier.
Then a miniaturized version of Cherry’s own dagger.
Cherry held the tiny dagger between two fingers, staring at it in pure exhaustion.
"...Do I even wanna know how you did this?"
Elyse giggled.
Cherry sighed.
Then she had an idea.
She reached into her inventory.
Pulled out a random, shiny-ass trinket she had looted months ago.
And held it up dramatically.
Elyse’s eyes widened.
She gasped.
"SHINY."
Cherry tossed it.
Elyse chased it like an overexcited puppy.
Cherry ran for the door.
Chapter 3: Winning the Unwinnable
Elyse caught the trinket mid-air, spinning happily.
"SO SHINY."
Then, abruptly—
She turned back to Cherry.
And grinned.
"Okay! You win!"
Cherry froze.
"...What?"
Elyse clapped her hands.
Reality snapped like an overstretched rubber band.
And suddenly—
Cherry was outside the dungeon.
Her Looking for Party sign had changed.
It now read:
"Looking for Party. Also won at baby games. Ask me how."
The only proof of her mind-melting ordeal?
A faint giggle in the wind.
Cherry exhaled.
Then, quietly—
She flipped off the dungeon.
"F* you, Elyse.**"
Somewhere in the distance—
The wind giggled again.
THE END? or not...
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15 hours ago, pizer said:
Sure. Crossing Worlds 2, Eternal Child, and Tricked into the Diaper Dimension are a few. Recent updates to LLMs gave rise to them overusing this particular literary device, so it's especially noticeable. These LLM-isms tend to change over time, though some are consistent.
(I can detail some others if you want. They're really hard to unsee once you know; perhaps ignorance is bliss.)
From each story, in order:
It's sad tho, but thanks for the info 🙂
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On 3/6/2025 at 3:42 AM, dmavn said:
I approve.. Truck kun is used waaay too much
Now to see if this was just the two of them or half the school…
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Chapter 4 In progress...
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Wonderful story 💎
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Eternal Child (Prequel) (Rewriting) (Chapter 2 Done)
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