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Thanks for the advice. I get depressed and escape with indulging in this fetish ( and others although this seemed to overtake the others ) Not sure what it all means or what would make me actually happy/whole. I suspect I will be away from this for some time but I will likely get depressed again in a similar way and be strongly attracted to this again. I think I am at least feeling less guilty about my interests even if I haven't figured out what to do about them.

Life and responsibility are getting in the way of this fetish. Ugh.....purge time.

Noticeable increase in urgency today. Not sure if it means anything. Also, I think i might be figuring out reverse kegels a bit.

Thanks for your post. Really interesting and helpful. Hoping to see more from others as well.

I know it is a long journey and I doubt I will stick it out. If I thought this was all going to really happen I'd probably shit myself.

Well.......been playing with taking lots of psyllium and end of the day today at work, no protection, thought it was going to be just a fart........it was quite a bit more. Good thing it was end of day, I could just leave and go home with a bit of a mess in my underwear. I'm sure this was a one off from the extra psyllium. Of course, had a big glass when I got home. Tomorrow is a day off..........

That seems like great advice. I think I am doing this to a certain extent but I think your suggestion seems likely to be effective. Less ( hoping for none ) leaks is definitely more discreet. The way I dress now would likely hide pretty thick protection, including a tabbed diaper, plastic pants, and a onsie pretty effectively. I just am not quite there in terms of actually wearing a diaper when I am not alone. I am working on it bit by bit. Also, my job is pretty intensive and I am a bit afraid that the excitement I would be feeling while wearing protection out in the world would be a major distraction. I suspect in the not too distant future, I wont be able to resist giving it a try. I totally understand ( at least intellectually ) the merits and effectiveness of what you describe here. I am not there yet.......:) I found your reply very helpful. Thank you very much.

I am getting better at not leaking while in a better protected bed which should help me sleep better and feel more comfortable wetting in bed. It has now been about a month that I have consistently worn diapers most of the time ( 14-15 hours per day on work days and 24 hours per day on weekends ) While at work, I do set a timer to go to the bathroom and pee every 30 minutes. I try to sit in a stall while peeing so I can also continue to relax my bladder area for a few minutes after it has emptied. I am getting better at allowing myself to pee in multiple positions. I have also not used a toilet for my morning BMs for this month. Those are enhanced with generous daily supplementation of psyllium husk ( Metamucil and its like ) I have pretty consistently listened to hypnosis files daily and I also say my mantra regularly in the mornings. While my related skills are definitely improving, I know I am still 100% continent. If I chose to stop this right now, I am sure I would be 100% continent with the only retraining to do would be to retrain a bit so that I didn't feel the need to pee every 15-30 minutes, which I don't think would be very difficult. It is my intention to keep at this day by day, hoping that the cumulative approach will cause some real UI and FI and bedwetting that surprise me. I am trying to not try so hard and only be consistent and allow things to just happen. I have yet to wear any protection out of my house, and I am researching that to find a way to do that as discreetly as possible and maybe dip my toe into that water bit by bit as well.

Hello All, I am very interested in hearing about retraining attempts from people who have successfully untrained to a level of incontinence and/or bedwetting, but then decided to try to regain their continence. Success, failure, improvement, what went into it, what worked, what didn't work etc etc. Please share your story here, if you don't mind.

Did you try and retrain to be dry at night?

This idea of "accidental untraining" is my model. I guess I am going for intentional accidental untraining https://kali-is-an-abdl.tumblr.com/post/668556653923287040/hey-kali-based-on-your-three-part-answer-it

Progress bit by bit. It is getting easier to wet in different positions including lying down on my back and either side, while sitting and while walking. I now have absorbent bed pads making me feel more secure in wetting the bed. I also just received my first onesies that make me feel further safety in wetting. I am going to look into terry lined vinyl pants for further bedwetting security. I have not allowed sexual release during for at least 25 days and that is definitely key. Diapers + plastic pants are a kind of chastity device for me. Really enjoying this process. Of course, I am sure Ill stop before anything problematic or irreversible happens. Ill just do a few more days. Just listen to a bit more hypno.

Congratulations on your failure to fail at succeeding at failing! Hmm.....I think you have succeeded at retraining habits and responses along with untraining previous habits and responses rather than failing to stay continent since you weren't trying to stay continent. potato potato

I really like the way you put that. I believe that bed wetting is more possible for me to achieve, since it can be done hidden from the outside world ( for a time anyways) and the difficulty in reversing it ( from what I have read ) makes it particularly attractive and exciting. I have also read that bed wetting erodes daytime continence as well. The danger is the fun and excitement. The idea of getting found out is terrifying to me. Again, that is what makes it so exciting. At this moment, I believe my desire to remain discreet out weighs the attraction to the thrill of being found out. I am doing several things to alter my sub conscious, so who knows what is really going on behind the scenes I am glad you have found it interesting and I appreciate your response.

FWIW, one of the hypnosis files I am using daily is Bedwetting from Baby pants. I believe it helps and also I try to not have any expectation other than using it consistently may have an effect.

Had a more difficult time wetting after going to bed last night. I didn't listen to bedwetting hypnosis. I am going to prioritize listening to bed wetting hypnosis daily. Also, I will drink more water before going to bed.

Thanks for the encouragement My mind really isn't there. But, I am continuing in the direction of moving my mind bit by bit along with playing with the risks.

I have some washable bed under pads ordered. I believe these will help me progress since they will make me feel more secure in bed wetting. The affirmation can be rearranged a number of ways to keep in engaging. Thanks for the advice about keeping a private journal. I have tried before unsuccessfully. I believe if I continue to record some of my progress and thoughts here it will have some of the same effect.

Here is an affirmation I say repeatedly. I try to think it as well. I try to say it as if it is true. I am a bed wetter. I have to wear diapers. I helplessly wet and mess automatically, at all times, when I am awake and when I am asleep.

Did you ever try and retrain for not bed wetting?

The night before last, I was able to pee lying down on my right side for the first time. Last night, I was able to pee lying down on my left side for the first time and peeing while lying down on my right side was easy. Previously, I had only been able to pee lying on my back.

It would be more fun and exciting to be encouraged to go too far. I don't think I can be discouraged effectively here other than being told to go away and not post. People can post whatever they want though. I definitely want to go too far, but don't really believe that will happen, if that makes sense.

So, this is a strong fetish for me. This is the second or third time I have played with untraining. Intellectually, I feel that I am just playing with this and I strongly suspect that I will stop or seriously reduce the intensity of my untraining, or retrain, well before the point of no return. However, it is the thrill of going too far, of public embarrassment, that is a big part of what is driving me. I am currently listening to lots of hypnosis. I am full time in diapers for about 60 hours from Saturday evening until I have to go back to work on Tuesday. During the work week I am in diapers about 14 or 15 hours a day, and I am sleeping in diapers. I am trying to achieve bed wetting since that supposedly is difficult to impossible to reverse and then your daily control can diminish including FI. I have been playing at this for about 3 weeks. Interestingly, the idea of wearing diapers to work and when I am out is creeping into my thinking which is something I didn't think I would consider. I don't think I can be dissuaded from this because intellectually, I certainly understand that achieving any real incontinence or diaper dependence would be a big mistake for my life. However, that danger makes it even more attractive. I have the resources and the isolation to get myself in some real trouble here. Anyways, I feel that journaling here reinforces the untraining. I don't know how often I will post, or if there is any interest outside of my own. Feel free to ask me questions or give advice. Thanks for reading. I know this is a bit redundant from another post I made, but someone recommended a separate thread for this journaling.

I was thinking about journaling my approach and progress here. Should I do that in this thread? Should I start a new thread? Should I not journal my approach and progress here? How many licks to the center of a tootsie roll?

I would say if I really need to pee, it would be 4-6 oz, but since I am peeing quite often, it can be just a very small amount sometimes as well. And I am sure that I am fully continent and always have been. This is all currently by choice.