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In the Gallery section of the Daily Diapers main site, not the forum section, I cannot figure out how to save a pic that I like as one of my favorites. If you go to the tab "album lists" one option that drops down is "my favorites," which leads me to believe that I should be able to save pics to my favorites.
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I just have a few questions that you could answer very quickly. Thank you!
How old are you?
Are you married or single?
What do you do for a living?
How often do you wear diapers?
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This thread has turned to another page. I agree that most of the posters in this thread are educated and have stated valid arguments. What does this say about our community? Diverse, to say the least. Religion is always a great topic. Thank God we're not snugged together in some local pub, eh?
But, let's get back to square one. Does God really care if we want or have to wear diapers? I think not. Jesus wore them on the Cross, for cryin' out loud. That is, if artistic portrayals of the event and period are accurate. Maybe some of you would be more comfortable with thinking He wore "underwear". Or maybe, the more hysterical/historical term, "loincloth"? Let's get back on track, here.
Cuddles,
--heidilynn
Actually Jesus was naked on the cross. Up until a certain time period crucifixes were made that way, but eventually it became "inappropriate." When people were crucified in Rome they were "stripped of their garments" like Jesus was. That wasnt something unique to Him. So, He was not wearing diapers or underwear, He was naked. Crucifixion was suppose to be the most horrible AND humiliating way to die. Just thought I should clarify that.
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Diapermonkey:
Let me begin by asking you to read the famous "Letter to Dr Laura". There, you will read about a number of commonly accepted violations of the literal words of god in Leviticus, which is the place in the bible where most of the prohibitions about sexuality are justified. The only logical conclusion is that we are completely unconcerned about violating some of that book, but very concerned about other parts of that same book, all without explanation from those very concerned or from the book itself. Therefore, something is rotten in the state of denmark and requires an explanation.
That explanation must involve one or more of the following:
a) Those very concerned are not actually concerned about following the bible, but are concerned about something else. There is a great deal of evidence that it's simple conservatism. Read up on the episcopalians and their gay priests and ministers, and then read up on the pedophilic catholic priests. Tremendous sins have been caused by the mere denial of sexuality.
Something is incorrect, but included in the bible. This is generally rejected, because the logical conclusion would reject the divinity of the bible.c) The instructions in the book of Leviticus were intended for different conditions.
d) The spirit of what is in the bible as a whole is more important than the precise, literal details.
In any case, Christ says he is come to justify, or redeem the law. Thus, the new testament is intended to modify the old testament, especially in matters of how to get into heaven. Christ then goes on to discuss at some length how he determines whether a person has faith, which is difficult to discern, and makes an analogy to fruit trees: The good ones produce good fruit, the bad ones don't. How they produce the fruit isn't terribly important, although at least in the book of John, he says that there is only one way to the lord, and that is through Jesus.
He doesn't say anything about getting there by denying oneself; on the contrary he does say the lord takes care of those who help themselves. That rich man has trouble getting into heaven because he won't give things away, not because he sleeps in silk pajamas or has servants, as given by at least one example. Where his seed goes doesn't seem to enter into it. The fruits are there.
In other places, the new testament says to have a joyful face, not to blacken it with ashes on days of prayer.
"Be fruitful and multiply and cover the earth" is reasonable, but we have now done that, and it is not impossible that making more humans will cause the environment to become unliveable for all humans. Surely we weren't supposed to overpopulate ourselves to extinction.
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So I really think if you have this need for diapers, wear your diapers, and get on with other things that are more important. I realize the shrinks have come to this conclusion too. Enjoying this lesser sin and releasing your energies in this direction is much better than some other directions the energy could be directed in.
The Buddha, incidentally, is quite explicit in saying that denial of pleasure, while sometimes useful, can become a negative game among men. This echoes Christ, when he says not to trumpet giving in the street, for those who do so have their reward, as do those who pray on the street corners for all to see.
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As have others, I find your reasoning very dualistic, black/white oriented. I got my taste of that when the daughter of the woman who is now my wife decided that I automatically must hate the man she calls "Dad" and he must hate me. It simply doesn't work that way; I have been helping her dad off and on in various ways.
Similarly, a weekend here and there in diapers doesn't preclude more traditional forms of sex with your wife and the traditional results -- bouncing baby boys and girls. Also, if you are not having traditional sex, spilling your seed with the help of your diapers keeps your equipment in good shape to perform when the time comes to do it for real.
You call the desire for diapers "unnatural"...tell me, given perhaps 50,000 aware lovers of diapers wandering around on earth, by what artifice did we catch this lust? In fact, it seems perfectly natural...all the more reason to ask about the results of the desire, rather than the desire itself.
As for how it is "supposed" to be, where did you learn that? The more scientists learn about "supposed to be" or "normal" in sex, the more they learn that the specifics are a very individual thing. Make your wife or fiance a priority higher than your diapers, and the diapers will take care of themselves.
Dill Pickle
Dill Pickel, a couple of things. First, please to not talk about priests committing sexual sins (which were indeed horrible sins) because of denial of sexuality. Please know what you are talking about before you go into some deep waters like that. There are many more cases of married men doing the same thing to children, which is obviously not cause by the denial of sexuality. It is not as simple as that. I do not know the exact causes of such a horrible sin, but please do not make comments like that unless you know about it.
You said, "He doesn't say anything about getting there by denying oneself" and that is just wrong. Matthew 16:24 - "Then Jesus told his disciples, "If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me." It does require self denial. Christianity has known this and professed it from the beginning.
Also, if you do research you will find we are not close to overpopulating the earth. Some places are overpopulated, yes, but by no means the whole earth.
You said, "As have others, I find your reasoning very dualistic, black/white oriented." You must not know what dualism is. Traditional dualism is found in the Gnostics and Manicheans, and is generally splitting matter and spirit, making matter bad and spirit good. My thinking is not dualistic. It is the exact opposite.
I addressed this before, but 50,000 out of 7 Billion people still makes us a very very small minority. How we came to have these feelings? No idea. but just because we have them does not necessitate that they are natural or good. Although they might not be "bad"
As for masturbation, that is too long to cover right now. I briefly mentioned it in another post, but if you would like to discuss it I would be glad to. Its an important topic.
How is it suppose to be? I did what Jesus did, " He answered, "Have you not read that he who made them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, `For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?" God back to how it was in the beginning. Heis speaking of divorce here. however understanding and theology on sexuality stem from how it was in the beginning. Their is a great theological tradition on this, and if you would like I can point you to some sources.
And indeed, you are right, make the wife a higher priority. No question there.
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I thought living a Christian life was to ensure one's position in heaven. If you were to not live a Christian life then the opposite would occur am I correct? If diapers are something that is spiritually dirty then wouldn't that be deviating from the Christian life and putting one at harms way of meeting Lucifer?
~Brian
yes I would agree that sinning, even in just small things, can put one on the path to Hell, but they do not condemn one to Hell. I did not say that wearing diapers would send someone to Hell. Just want to make that clear, but we should be doing everything we can to make ourselves holy.
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It was indirectly implied. The poster mentioned how giving into these sexual desires is going against God's will, and thusly a sin. I'm not sure how the "Heaven/Hell" system works... but if it's based on a systematic numerical value of sins... a diaper a day is roughly twenty nine thousand sins in a lifetime. I'm not going into the Heaven VS. Hell thing, because it's not the issue... but it's not completely void in the discussion.
-Sophie
Not going to write a lot on this, but Heaven and Hell is not a based on how many sins you commit. Like Sarah_ab said we will sin, but we need to repent of them and truly be trying to live a holy life for God. He wants us to do our absolute best, which will involve us falling a lot, but we also have to get back up again and repent.
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My point exactly.
-Sophie
Just a quick point, God is a big picture deity IN A CERTAIN SENSE. But he does care about the small things we do. If what we are doing is small, but harmful to our soul then He cares. He cares about every small part of us. He knows the number of hairs on our head. You might think He is a big picture deity in the sense that He doesn't care about small sins, but what evidence do you have for that?
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Gosh, that was a long post! You've obviously done a lot of thinking and praying. On that basis, we all can make comments, but I won't tell you that you are right or that you are wrong. I'll simply say I think you've come to a lot of firm conclusions simply on the basis of your prayer...I can't agree with all your conclusions. Since you base your decisions or judgments on those conclusions, it's hard for me to go there either.
I will say this, however: just as Jesus goes on and on about how rich people will find it difficult to get into heaven, it isn't the money itself but their own attitudes and approaches to it. In the same way, one of the things you've pointed out as well, is that simply wearing diapers is just not wrong. What can be wrong is when it gets in the way of your relationship with others. I agree with at least one other poster - I think you've gone into overdrive in your thinking. If the sexual aspects of diaper wearing are adversely affecting your real life, real world relationship with your wife, then diapers are not a good thing for you. Kind of in the same way, if you're cheating on your wife and getting sex from the neighbor...probably not such a good thing. If you are looking at your wife or sexual relationship with her differently because you like to be stimulated by wearing diapers...maybe not such a good thing...if you're just being stimulated once in a while, but NOT acting toward your wife any differently, is it such a big deal? With another woman...YES....with inanimate objects like diapers???...not so sure. At least not as sure as you are.
The Bible talks down on masturbation - but you gotta remember this was spoken toward the Israelites who were underpopulated in a hostile world...lots of babies never were born because they (and the mothers) died in childbirth...the message there was 'don't spill your seed...make babies to populate our own nation so we can survive.' The modern scenario presents a little differently and very few would now say masturbation is a totally bad thing...again, if it throws off your relationship with someone else, then maybe. But just the act, when it makes YOU a little healthier, is not such a bad thing.
Just another point of view...take it or leave it...good luck in your quest, but remember you never get to perfection in this life...and we won't really know what the big bad stuff is that we've done (whether it's really ticked off God or not) until after we're dead. Doesn't mean we don't have to think, read and pray about it, but it does take the edge of some legitimate gray areas...lighten up on yourself. I think God has a pretty good sense of humor.
diaperpt
Thanks for the post, diaperpt. I would like to say that masterbation is wrong. Do not let secular psychologists or whoever try to trick you in thinking otherwise. Masterbations seeks the pleasure from sex without the self gift. It is love turned in on itself. It is not unitive or procreative. It takes away both of those elements from it. Many on this website will say its OK, but trust me. It is not. If you would like to discuss it more I would love to. Message me if you would. Have a good one.
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BitterGrey,
As usual, you remain (to my mind), one of the premier spokespersons and a voice of reason in our community. Your concern and Christian ethic is unquestioned to me.
Many younger members of our community dismiss this as something frivolous. A mere "fetish" which can be cast off, if so required. The sage members know better. Wish I knew then what I know now, to paraphrase Bob Seger. Ah well... It's all part of life's rich pageant, eh?
DiaperMonkey,
As far as personal relationships go, honesty is always the best policy. The truth will always out. 'Tis well to remember this, when considering a serious commitment. If there is real love in your relationship, your potential SO will give you a fair hearing. You may be pleasantly surprised at their reaction. It's worth a shot. If it results in a break-up, chances are it would have eventually. With far greater consequences.
As far as your personal relationship with God is concerned, God already knows about this condition of yours. (Psalms: 139) Did he condemn you to hell from birth? I think not. "Become as a child and enter the Kingdom of Heaven." Jesus's words, not mine.
Cuddles,
--heidilynn
I agree with what you said on honesty, so thanks for that advice.
Using Jesus' words to justify us using diapers is not how scripture is meant to be used. Spiritual Childhood in no way involves wearing diapers. St. Paul says, "When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways." (1 Cor. 13:11). If you want to discuss what spiritual childhood really means, then lets do that. For now just realize that Christ was not telling us to wear diapers. our response did not have a lot to do with my original post.
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Well, since no one else will start a string of complaints... i'll do it.
I'm a Christian. I may not go to church every weekend or preech my beliefs to strangers or read a chapter in the bible before bed at night or pray for every little thing in my life, but I am a Christian.
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Personally, I think you overanalyze.
Firstly, you're implying that God installed a vicious abnormality (the sexual desires for diapers), which sounds rather cynical for a diety. You might counter with how it's to test our "faith" in God and if we'd give up our own pleasures for him, even though it would psychologically torture us throughout our entire lives. Why worship someone like that? It's like praising a sado-masachist just because a book you read told you he desides your fate in the afterlife.
We're all sinners none-the-less, and it's thanks to Jesus that we no longer have to worry about our entrance to Heaven based on the minor screwups (in this case referring to the mistakes we make that don't hurt ourselves or others emotionally or physically) we perform every day. Sure, if you put a diaper on and then get an urge to go around stabbing children, you should probably stop wearing them... but what harm does it do without the sadistic thoughts? None.
The feeling you get, the guilt... you can't say that people on this board don't get it. There are threads on this board who talk about it all the time and how they think they need to give up diapers as well. I recieved the guilt in it's highest concentration... it affected me terribly... but i'm still an AB. It's not that i refused to give it up until i could no longer here my concience as you said, it's that I accepted who i was, who God made me, and when I met Mommy and learned other people can love me no matter how I dress or behave or what "turns me on", it was better. Since I first called her Mommy, i haven't felt a twinge of guilt over diapers.
My interprettation of Christianity... believe the past. Know God made you, understand why Jesus died, and keep him alive in your heart. Try to be a good person... not perfect, just do your best. And if something comes along that you find real enjoyment in that giving up would harm you emotionally, embrace it as long as you're not hurting yourself or others.
My golden rule... do what makes you happy. We're on this Earth to enjoy our lives... and as long as you're not hurting yourself or anyone else, the sky is your limit. God doesn't approve of suicide. He wouldn't approve of self-inflicting damage. Realize what hurts you more... the guilt of wearing a diaper or the torture of giving it up. If you pick the one that damages your emotions more than the other, that sounds like more of a sin than getting an erection over an inanimate object.
I've heard these stories so many times, and it's rediculous. If Christianity is all about making your stay on Earth miserable just for the glorification of getting into Heaven, then I need to find a new religion... one where I can be happy without breaking any rules.
-Sophie
Sophie, thanks for the post. I want to address a few things you said. From what I said it might seem that I think "God installed a vicious abnormality" in some of us. I do no believe that, though. You need to understand the nature of the Fall and its consequences. After Adam and Eve sinned it had consequences on the whole world. We inherit a fallen nature from them. Please believe me when I say that God is always intimately involved in our lives and the universe down to the very tiniest thing. He is constantly holding us and all of creation in existence. But God created nature, and He does not stop the consequences of our sin from happening because of His respect for our free will. Something has gone slightly wrong with nature, hence disease, miscarriages, someone or an animal being born without a limb, etc. God would rather these things not happen but He does out of respect for our free will and the consequences our sin caused. God does not create bad things. All things were good (and still are, but not perfectly) and have been corrupted. You just need to have an understanding of the Fall.
The guilt we get, and that most people do is probably due to two things. One, feeling like we are weird from everyone else and not wanting them to find out. But PRIMARILY the guilt comes from our conscience, which is God's way of trying to direct us to right and wrong. However one can learn to justify a sin, and thus quiet their conscience which is why many people do not feel guilty.
Something you, and some others seem to be saying is that since we are not perfect and cannot be in this life, then we should not try to be. And if a little sin comes along that we enjoy then we should do it to be happy. I am sorry my friend but that is not how it works. I know you said that is your interpretation of Christianity, but where did you get it? There are countless brothers and sisters in Christ who have gone before us and shown us how to truly live a happy and virtuous life. They have shown us how it works and we need to learn from their example, which ultimately should have its sources in the Apostles. We are called to strive to perfection. That includes getting rid of any sin we see in our life. Why? Because that will ultimately make us happy. "Be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect." Christ told us to do that and so we strive to be. You were right that God wants us to be happy in this life, but ultimately He is preparing us for the next. This life is really nothing compared to the glory to come. So it reaching that heavenly glory involves some sacrifice then we must do it.
Would you do me a favor and read a book if I recommend it? Anyone reading this post should, just because its a great book. It is Mere Christianity, by C.S. Lewis. It literally is one of my favorite books, and anyone can get something out of it.
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In this post your are demonstrating the tendency of followers of the Abrahamic religious traditions to cast issues in terms of false dichotomies of right or wrong, good or evil, sacred or profane, and so on by discerning God’s intention or will, and then labeling all that corresponds to God’s will or intention as good, and all that doesn’t as evil. Jewish folks tend to do this less so than Christian or Muslims because they often seem less sure about humanity’s capacity to accurately discern God’s intention or will. How can you be so sure of God’s intention in this matter?
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Wow there are a lot of replies and I appreciate it. I am glad to hear them all. If I have time I will respond to them one by one. A few quick notes: there has been a lot of arguing over the definition of "perversion" and I'm not quite sure why, although I can see where it would come in. Also, someone said that there were over 400 denominations of Christianity. There are actually over 25,000. That is not an exaggeration. Finally, someone said that since there were 50,000 of us with a diaper fetish that it wouldn't be abnormal (or something to that effect), but 50,000 out of 7 Billion people? We would still be a very very small minority. Thats all for the moment. Sorry, I am very busy. Thanks again for the posts.
Actually, I should say one more thing. A vast majority of the people here posting disagree with me, and thats fine. Criticism and dialogue is good, but most people now see it as insulting or offensive; they don't like other people to have different opinions. However, dialogue is one of the best ways to acquire knowledge. This is something Plato and others believed in very strongly. Hence, all of his dialogues. What am I trying to do with these dialogues? Find truth, and in it God's will. So everyone knows, there is truth. To say "nothing is true" would be embarrassing. I do not mean to be offensive, but the statement is self-defeating and would be explained in most any intro to Philosophy class. So, my point being: for those of us who have a sexual fetish towards diapers, it is either normal or abnormal, right or wrong. Although one person has intrigued me by speaking of diapers within marriage. That is one thing I am not quite sure of yet, although for the moment I think it could be wrong. However if better evidence comes along then we shall see.
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In this post your are demonstrating the tendency of followers of the Abrahamic religious traditions to cast issues in terms of false dichotomies of right or wrong, good or evil, sacred or profane, and so on by discerning God’s intention or will, and then labeling all that corresponds to God’s will or intention as good, and all that doesn’t as evil. Jewish folks tend to do this less so than Christian or Muslims because they often seem less sure about humanity’s capacity to accurately discern God’s intention or will. How can you be so sure of God’s intention in this matter?
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Hi Diaper monkey
I do not think that any Christian can really argue with what you have written , to be honest I was always hoping it would be someone else who would talk about our faith and how a desire for nappies can affect our spiritual growth , and you are that person , I myself have struggled since I was 5 with nappies , and now I find it even harder to give up , I know it takes one step of faith a bit like Peter stepping out of the boat to meet Jesus , however in peters case he panicked when he saw the waves and begun to sink , but the Lord lifted him up because he initially took the first step , for me I know I have tried and tried , but then again have I tried , have I really let the Lord in , Like you are doing , anyway I hope this is not too confusing .
stay blessed
elo
I am glad you liked my post. You are right, it is hard, but sometimes we need to get out of the boat or get knocked off our horse (Paul). Peter also fell many times, but by the Lord's grace he was raised up again. He denied Jesus, but at the end of the fourth gospel Jesus told him to "Feed my sheep" (John 21), and then in Acts after being filled with the Holy Spirit he proclaimed the word of God boldly to the people and to the Pharisees saying, "It is impossible not to speak about what we have seen and heard." God's grace is never lacking, and it is always overflowing.
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Hi Diaper monkey
I do not think that any Christian can really argue with what you have written , to be honest I was always hoping it would be someone else who would talk about our faith and how a desire for nappies can affect our spiritual growth , and you are that person , I myself have struggled since I was 5 with nappies , and now I find it even harder to give up , I know it takes one step of faith a bit like Peter stepping out of the boat to meet Jesus , however in peters case he panicked when he saw the waves and begun to sink , but the Lord lifted him up because he initially took the first step , for me I know I have tried and tried , but then again have I tried , have I really let the Lord in , Like you are doing , anyway I hope this is not too confusing .
stay blessed
elo
I am glad you liked my post. You are right, it is hard, but sometimes we need to get out of the boat or get knocked off our horse (Paul). Peter also fell many times, but by the Lord's grace he was raised up again. He denied Jesus, but at the end of the fourth gospel Jesus told him to "Feed my sheep" (John 21), and then in Acts after being filled with the Holy Spirit he proclaimed the word of God boldly to the people and to the Pharisees saying, "It is impossible not to speak about what we have seen and heard." God's grace is never lacking, and it is always overflowing.
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I get this feeling that a lot of people won't like or be happy with what you wrote. For the recored, I agree with most everthing you have here. I struggle with diapers often when I think of returning to my faith. Is it right or wrong? I' don't know. I am glad you found an answer for yourself and believe that through prayer you can deal better with this compulsion. In my life I wonder if it's ok if I leave out the sexual aspect which isn't always possible. If I wear for comfort or to relax is that ok? Thanks for your post, it has helped me think about my feelings a little more.
Yes I realize what I have said might not be very popular, but I hope others will, even if they initially disagree, think about this and pray about this hard. It is a tough issue, so we all need to pray about it, bring it to God, and really be honest with ourselves when assessing His will. I would say that if you really can just wear them for comfort and to relax, then that is fine. But I know, for myself, that can be very hard to do. If you wanna talk more in depth or have questions please go ahead and message me. I'm glad this has helped a little.
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I wrote a post this past week about Christians having this fetish, and whether it was OK or not. Almost all of the answers I received said it was OK. Very few were only unsure. I listened to what everyone said, prayed a lot, read a lot, and thought a lot. I have come to a conclusion, and I know this is long but PLEASE take the time to read this and consider what I have to say.
A little about myself: I have like diapers for as long as I can remember, and I have tried to stop many times but have not been able to because I didn’t exactly know why I thought it was wrong, so I was always able to convince myself that it was fine. Finally I decided to see what others online said about it, whether it was OK or not. And everyone said they thought it was. But what was I to expect from a bunch of people doing it, that they would think it wrong? Of course not. Honestly, I was hoping to find the truth, one way or the other. However, I was greatly unimpressed by almost every argument I heard. Most of them were very shallow or weak. But many people nowadays look for an argument that sides with what they think or do, so as to justify it. I have been guilty of that myself. But I want more than that. God knows whether we really seek His will and truth or not, so I suggest we really do it. Not just because He knows, but because we are meant to know and love Him, and seeking His will and truth is the only way.
So I did reading and thinking and praying, and decided something. Obviously I have known a lot of this before about sex and sexuality, but this week during prayer it all came together and made sense. Please read it and let me know what you think.
Some people have said that God has more to be concerned about than our choice of underwear. I would agree with this if diapers (for most of us) were only a choice of underwear or a recreation. If you just like wearing them better than using the toilet, or enjoy them like you enjoy recreation (reading, taking walks, sports) then I do not think there is anything wrong with diapers. There is nothing wrong in wearing diapers in and of themselves. But I know that’s not how it is for me. The problem is when they are a sexual stimulant or desire. This is where it matters. So what I am going to be saying is directed toward any Christian, like myself, who get sexually aroused when wearing diapers, or seeing other people wear them, or fanaticizing about them. So, to those who says God does not care about your underwear choice: you are right – unless it is more than just an underwear choice.
As Christians we believe God created humans, man and woman, and he created sexuality and therefore made it for a specific purpose. Sex is a good and wonderful thing. Christianity has always taught this and still does. The reason Christianity seems so concerned with sex is because it’s so good, and therefore needs to protect it and keep it sacred. In our society we have been mislead and taught that we can do whatever we want with our bodies. They are ours and no one else’s. So, when we hear the word chastity we think of it as something bad, and something restricting. It keeps us from being happy and doing what we want – or at least that’s what I thought. But I never really knew what chastity was. Chastity is the “successful integration of sexuality within the person.
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Alright everyone, thank you very much for your responses. I don't agree with all of them but it is good to hear what you all think, and has given me a lot to think about. I think I am coming to a conclusion and will post in another topic: Diapered Christian Conclusion. It might be a few days or weeks because I am very busy and what to be complete in what I say.
Also, I want to make something clear. A few people are confused as to why I am investigating this. It has been something in my life that I really like, but I also have always felt it to be wrong somehow. I have been very confused and want to know the answer because I want to follow God's will, and I want to do what is right for my future wife (I am engaged). Needless to say I like diapers so it would be great if I discovered it to be OK, but also if I find it is not I must follow those conclusions also.
I have been reading a lot about the meaning of human sexuality and God's purpose for it. I will try to be very complete in my findings.
Thanks again everyone. God Bless.
ps - and thanks to the gay atheist who posted. While I do not agree with homosexual practice or atheism, you made a logical post, even if I didn't totally agree.
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I was the one who originally made the post. I have read most of the post, and a lot of interesting things were said, and I want to address certain things that were posted. I disagreed or was unimpressed with most of it. I do not buy logic that says "if it feels good then it must be correct" or simple arguments like that. I want real answers and I am hoping some people in here, if not everyone, will be able to help. So here I go.
I want to start out by restating that I realize wearing diapers in and of itself is not a sin. But there is much more to think about, so that is what I want to do. I want to follow God's will and right now I don't know what it is.
Some people have said how traditional beliefs taught by religion about sex is ridiculous. That is not true. Sex is meant to be within marriage, and between only one man and woman.
Sex was ordained by God and is meant for marriage. Why? Sex expresses something called the "language of the body." It expresses a love that is: Total, exclusive, permanent, fruitful, and freely given. When you do have sex outside of marriage you are telling you love a person in this way, but without committing to the sacred bond of matrimony. So what you say with your body is a lie.
The purposes of sex is: pleasure, union, and procreation. Trying to get one of these without the others is wrong. Hence masterbation is wrong, because it is love turned in on oneself. It is not giving at all. It seeks pleasure without the other two.
Just because priests, ministers and rabbis were apart of DPF does not make it ok. That is just faulty logic. That does not guarantee it is morally acceptable.
Someone said that you could argue that God mad me this way, and whatever He makes is good then this must be good. This is faulty argumentation because you do not understand moral and physical evil. Because of the Fall of Man we are affected by these. What God made was good but we distorted it and made creation flawed. We can be flawed. Just because we are born a certain way (and we do not even know if all people who like diapers were born this way or if it developed in us) does not made it good.
Many people have made comments about praying and listening to the Spirit. I agree with this wholeheartedly and believe prayer is incredibly important. However it is sometimes hard to discern what the Spirit is saying. Example: many people say they interpret scripture according to how the Holy Spirit moves them, and what resulted? over 33,000 denominations of CHristianity in the U.S. believe the Holy Spirit guides us, but we also must know how to listen.
A few people have commented about God and say He does not exist. That is a different topic. If you want to talk about this start another topic. Very important, but do not have time in this forum.
All of these are a few of the things I wanted to comment on. There are other things that play into this that what peoplehave mentioned. One this is scandal. Scandal is one in some form of authority or who represents something (like Christianity) and does something to drive others away from the faith or make them think it is OK. If people outside the faith see me wearing diapers will it drive them farther away from God?
Also, I am getting married and I want to do what is best for me and my wife. Would it be best to give this up forever? Will it just cause problems? And if I always hide it I will always be keeping something from her.
Another big question is that of sexuality. When I wear diapers I get aroused. Is that a perversion of my sexuality? I am suppose to be attracted to women (which I am) but will this make me less attracted to my wife? Will it harm our sex life?
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Wow, thank you all very much for your input. Its good to hear other people's thoughts. Some things I agreed with, and others I didn't. I am going to think about it and make a big post later. What I am looking for here is truth. I really want to know if it is OK are not, and it is not (like most things) a simple as it may seem. Have a good one, and I will be adding a big post with thoughts, objections and questions somewhat soon. I will say this. I realize wearing diapers in itself is not wrong, but there are many other questions that go along with it.
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I am a Christian and that is something that makes me want to rethink what I am doing. I am curious if there are other Christians out there who wear diapers who do not see or do see it as a problems that we wear diapers. I do not know the answer to this but would love to hear what others think and dialogue about it. Of course non-Christians are always welcome to contribute also, and if you want we could dialogue about Christianity if you are curious. Thanks everyone!
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I can understand where you are coming from, I felt like that for a good long time. This strange compulsion to wear diapers and wet them would make me feel great while I played but afterwards I would feel guilty and ashamed.
If you look to the mass majority of people in our daily lives you would probably find that this diaper thing would make them uncomfortable. So that's why I felt so guilty anyways, I was always worried about getting caught and things like this. I guess worried about what other people would think, and relationships are pretty hard for us to come by too I think. We either risk losing our partner by telling them the truth about us or we hide it.
I think your feelings are pretty much normal, I think we kind of develop in stages with this crazy fetish. Your going to have to learn to accept this as part of your life I think, because as most of us know; these feelings arnt going to leave you. Once you do that you should start feeling pretty good about all this, its different sure, but just let your private life be private. The way I figure it, anything that makes me feel this good and has no bad health side effects is a blessing in disguise.
Hope that helps
This is a lot of how I feel, just what you said. I am engaged and I wonder if it is something I will have to hide from her forever. I don't want that to be between us. I know everyone on here is saying it is normal and I should just accept it, but everything inside of me is telling me that it is not normal, and it goes beyond the fact that I am embarrassed by it. I want to know why I like to wear diapers so much. Was there something in my past that caused this? Something my parents did when I was young?
Someone said it was like masturbation, and if that is the case I need to stop wearing diapers because masturbation is wrong. And if you would like to discuss that or hear why its wrong let me know.
Thanks everyone for sharing, I would love to hear more.
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I have been into diapers for a long time, but I can never shake the feeling that what I am doing is wrong and could mess with the rest of my life. I feel like this is an unnatural desire to wear diapers at my age. What do you think? I would love to hear what people have to say.
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