Eagleclc

As long as my bladder is not completely empty then it only takes a couple of cycles of stimulation. I’m at a point where even when I clinch as hard as I can, there is usually a spurt when I try to relax. I may successfully prevent a full release for a time or two, but eventually my sphincter gives and I release a larger volume. I’m still figuring out how much my daytime diaper will hold before needing a change, but I recommend using a good quality brief while you are practicing. My floods are smaller now than they were two weeks ago. I now have the intense urge to urinate when my bladder approaches full volume, and if ignored then the bladder spasms start just as though I were manually stimulating it and I spurt/eventually flood. I definitely have significantly less control holding urine than when I started this.

I’ll start about mid-morning after my bladder has had time to open start filling. The first time of the day takes multiple cycles of initiating spasms, so I just keep it up until I start with the spurts. After that, it’s every few minutes depending on what else you’ve going on and whether you can deal with a wet diaper in the near future. My speculation is that the more often, the better. It’s only during spasms when I can’t control urine, so right now that is when I have incontinence. I speculate that the only type of true incontinence that could result from this is urge incontinence, which is what happens by later in the day and the spasms start on their own even when my bladder isn’t full. Another possibility I’ve considered is that the natural coordination of the internal and external sphincters along with the bladder are being manipulated. Will that lead to long-term issues?...no idea. There is the possibility that the bladder could become desensitized and stop contracting as it should. That would not be a good thing if spontaneous urination is the goal, so it’s just something to pay attention to.

As I continue into my second week of working with this method, the key is the bladder stimulation. As a previous poster described, getting to the point of desperation by overfilling the bladder is just the practice of Omorashi and is not the goal. What I’m finding is that my ability to clinch and hold is dramatically reduced. My mind is doing its best to hold when I’m stimulating my bladder to contract, but my sphincter won’t cooperate. I’m also wetting the bed consistently, and most of the time I don’t wake up or wake up while my bladder is releasing. I’m still in shock that this is working after years of genuinely trying every method that’s out there to induce bedwetting. I’m not crazy about the daytime diapers, so that is a definite trade off. I don’t know how long it will take to cause permanent changes (if that’s even possible), so I’ll just keep it up and see what happens.

I want to share a method that I'm experimenting with and having some decent results. I have been mostly interested in becoming a bedwetter and have worn a diaper consistently at night for the past five years with little results. I can easily wet in any position, but for the most part, I wake up and have to consciously wet. I have also worn 24/7 for several extended periods, and am very comfortable in diapers. By concentrating on staying relaxed after urinating, I have some post-void dribble but no real daytime incontinence. Over the years, I have experimented in holding to the point of uncontrollable wetting. This has always been very uncomfortable and I always worried about the pressure back into the kidneys. Recently, I began working on a modified version of holding that has been surprisingly successful. As a warning, this method still involves holding against a contracted bladder. The potential for kidney damage is still there, but I think it's less of a concern over time (which I'll explain). Basically, you need to already be comfortable and secure wearing high capacity protection. Allow your bladder to become moderately filled, but not to the point of extreme urgency. The next step is to initiate bladder contraction. To do this, press firmly on the area just below your navel. When you find the right spot, you will feel the urgency in your bladder. This will take some trial and error to find the sweet spot. I use both hands to increase the area being stimulated. After you find the spot, press repeatedly about every second (kind of the same rhythm as CPR). Within a minute or so, you should begin to feel your bladder start to contract. Hold against this contraction until it passes. Relax for about 10 seconds, and repeat this process. Each successful contraction becomes a little more uncomfortable. The goal is to wear out the sphincter muscle by straining against the contractions over a period of time. After a while, you will start to have little spurts that you can't stop from coming out. The decision comes in how long to hold against the pressure before finally releasing. This is where the potential risk comes in and you will have to decide how far to push it. I suspect that there is less danger than if your bladder were completely filled and providing constant backpressure into the ureters. (The periods of high pressure are just when you are stimulating the bladder to contract so I do think there is less risk than high capacity holding.) Repeat frequently over the course of a day being sure to replace what you are urinating out, but don't drink liquids to excess. As the day goes on, you should find it harder and harder to hold through the contractions and the spurts of urine harder to control. Eventually, you will reach a point of no return and be unable to control a flood. You will also begin to have bladder contractions when your bladder is full without external stimulation. As your sphincter fatigues, you should find it harder to hold and for shorter periods of time. The first day I tried this I wet the bed involuntarily that night. It was the first time in five years that has happened. I have been doing this every day for just under a week, and I've wet the bed consistently each night and slept through about half of those wettings. The tradeoff is wearing daytime diapers. In order to keep the sphincter fatigued, I'm holding all the time until I can't hold back anymore. That is taking much less time on day five than it did when I started. I have no idea what longterm effects (if any) this method has. Potentially, it could lead to longterm OAB or overflow incontinence. It could also just be that everything would go back to normal if I stopped fatiguing my sphincter all day long. I've decided to keep it up for a couple of weeks to see how things develop. Again, there are risks and it may not work for you as it has for me. One side effects that I've had is soreness in my diaphragm from clinching up while trying to fight through contractions. That has gotten better as the ability to hold has lessened. I'd be curious to know if anyone else gives it a shot and how it works for them.