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Leilin

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  1. First of all, some people only know what they read or what Media Matters scripts them. Mao Tse Tung was still in power when I was in High School. His name was stated in radio and TV news constantly. I use to have to report on current events for a social studies class. If I am geting it wrong, the liberl of liberals got it wrong too: Walter Cronkite

    Then... he got it wrong too.

    (That was easy)

    It's really okay for you, or him, to get it wrong. You don't, after all, speak Mandarin or Cantonese.

    What isn't okay (in my eyes) is pretending you know what you are talking about when, in fact, you haven't the foggiest idea. You, of all people, should know that the news not just sometimes but frequently mispronounces the names of other nations and people. Mao is just one example of many:

    Iraq: Not pronounced like "eye rack."

    Iran: Not pronounced like the Flock of Seagulls song.

    Hezbollah: Does not rhyme with "Fez-bowla"

    I could go on, but the moral of this story is that people who present the news in English rarely know what they are talking about in reference to other languages.

  2. No Zedong is wrong. It was printed that way because some pundit did not know how to spell it. It is pronounced mao sey tung. I remember it all to well from my studies in high school as well as Union Theological Seminary in Richmond Va. My mother wanted me to be a minister but it never happened :) I wound up at OSU but that is another story.

    I just remembered another jewel about Chairman Mao. How about this philosophy?

    "Politics comes out of the barrel of a gun" Chairman Mao

    Is there any fact that you can't state as the opposite of what it actually is? Firstly, it is correctly spelled Mao Zedong, pronounced like this and again you prove you have no idea what you're talking about. Chinese to Roman is often not a direct phonetic translation. Secondly, Mao Tse Tung, the alternate correct spelling which you also butchered, is also acceptable, but the former is actually closer to the phonetic. The person who taught you your "history" should probably be tried for crimes against humanity at this point.

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  3. You are making up excuses for the corrupt POS. Eric Holder admitted that the lack of prosecution was because the criminals were black! Obama and his Attorney General are racists!

    ... because it's not like they started a case and then dropped it for lack of evidence.

    Oh, wait. Yes it is, and I'm sure you were equally critical of Bush's administration for not pursing that case as it was happening.

  4. Of course, we come to a completely different conundrum when listening to a person is a precursor to silencing their voice. I believe in freedom of speech. :P

    I also believe, as I have mentioned, in the freedom to ridicule those whose speech is made up of half-thought falsehoods and idiocies.

    For instance, I listen to what a certain hacktivist group does, though I do not agree with, nor accept, their logic. They have a nuclear bomb (digitally of course) and they toss it around like it's an angry letter or petition instead of using it as a last resort. So I listen and know their movements, to the point I can even spot fakes, but I do not accept their ideals at all. ... and they are certifiable according to some people.

    Stop that, or you're going to make me agreeing with you a trend. :)

  5. That, Kitten, makes sense. *bows head*

    Jason: Perhaps that's the problem that you two meant two different things with "listen," and Kitten took a more literal meaning of the word whereas you took it as more of a "listen and accept"?

    I personally also take the literal meaning. I do not stop "listening" unless the person has continuously proven that they are unable to say things that aren't completely worthless or inanely stupid (or at the very least devoid of entertainment value), at which point I save myself the headache of trying to communicate their ilk by putting them on ignore in internet forums.

    Only one person has crossed that line for me on this forum, and while Kitten has neared it in many cases, it is not her. This is one case where what she has said seems completely sensible to me. Even demagogues like RDB, who seem incapable of addressing things from a factual standpoint, I don't have ignored, as they're incredibly silly, but their brand of ignorance is quite entertaining and easy to dissect while I'm doing other things.

  6. No, couldn't find a single one unless you count the 8 well known, well documented cases listed above that resulted in genocide and the death of between 50 and 75 million people in the last century. Not a single case other than that.

    That was sarcasm, in case you didn't notice. I think many here have lost their sense of humor and my sarcasm is lost to the vagaries of non-personal communications. Some totally went off on my "I'm right" statement and actually believes I'm that stubborn. LOL! Maybe I am that stubborn but give me credit for not being a moron that can't function in society, please!

    As a corallary, those that don't get sarcasm may have problems with higher thinking.

    http://www.smithsoni...Yeah-Right.html

    And this is why the NRA ferociously fights any attempts to register guns and those that would support such measures.

    Uh...no. Wrong again. the situations you named are cases where gun bans have been a precursor to genocide, not where gun registration has been a precursor to gun bans. Try again, with an attempt to answer the question I asked this time?

    I get your sarcasm just fine, and so does the rest of the thread, but it isn't tempered well by your inability to answer a straight question or to think critically regarding anything that isn't forcefed to you. Perhaps you should stick to lower forms of situational humor, like Farrelly Brothers films.

  7. And Obama is not corrupt? He bought a piece of land 10 feet wide from a convicted felon, Rezko, to add onto this property.

    So... buying adjacent land to your home from a corrupt person is corrupt? Living next door to a corrupt person is corrupt? You don't really have a leg to stand on with this one.

    Unrepentant Pentagon bombers Ayers & Dorn helped launch his political career.

    And I'll just leave this here. I expect you fully to respond to it without actually reading it. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

  8. I see a lot of "This post is hidden" posts. I'm glad. The disrespect for truth is like a disease.

    I do not like the bailouts one bit. It was very nerve-wracking to see our financial institutions rely so heavily on toxic assets, credit default swaps, and bad derivatives -- and they we had to bail them out because they just so happen to contain a lot of our assets that aren't problematic. The lesson learned is that we have to be smart with our money, and move it to smaller banks. The Huffington Post's "Move Your Money" campaign explains the benefits of doing that. If we move enough of our money out of these "too big to fail" institutions, we can let the free market deal with the banks that collapse.

    Apologies if my prodding of BotoX is bringing his silly rants back into your field of view. I just have a thing about letting blatant falsehoods go unchallenged. :P

  9. I don't personally believe it is prudent to use the young man who shot Giffords in any relevant discussion on this topic.

    Only one word should be used to describe that guy: Crazy. Whether he was right wing or not in that scope is irrelevant.

    As Redneck said, Giffords' attacker was neither NRA nor rightwinger. He would arguably be one of Barack's own if more were known.

    ... and calling him a leftwinger is just as stupid as calling him a rightwinger, and equally without merit.

    Look at the views that he actually expressed:

    1. Doesn't believe women should hold office.

    2. Hates both George Bush and Giffords. I've looked for a conservative that he expressed hatred for but as of yet haven't seen evidence for that. He definitely dislikes both centrist liberals and authoritarians.

    3. Anarchist leanings.

    4. Believes in, well, pretty much every political conspiracy, ever. Also believes in the 2012 apocalypse.

    Attempting to espouse a political leaning to that utter crackpot is a level of disingenuous which is reserved for demagogues and dittoheads.

    So I'm pretty sure nobody is surprised.

    AND, Bush's administration overturned the ban on firearms in parks. Talk about cherry picking your search results. It was one of Bush's last acts in office, Dec 2008. Silly liberals, I can't believe you aren't blaming Bush for something he actually did.

    Nope. Wrong again there. Bush's administration expressed a WISH to overturn that ban. Obama's administration actually did it. This is why evidence, like the actual text of the law drafted end to end under Obama's watch, is important. It's almost as if things like clear records of when these things happen exist! Hey! Cool!

    You can no more credit Bush with ending the ban than you can credit Obama with closing Gitmo.

  10. You do realize that a Google search full of right wing blogs and irrelevant links is not evidence, right? Do you even bother to read the things that you are posting or are you just throwing everything you can like a pile of equally useful crap at a wall and hoping some of it sticks?

    Also, I'm not sure you watched your School House Rock when you were younger.

    Here's the ACTUAL process this went through:

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-627

    Notice that law, to which the act was an unrelated rider (bad, even if you agree with the bill's content) was authored on 1/22/2009. Suggesting that bush "started" this is completely baseless in a realm where facts exist.

    But, then, I doubt you live in that realm with the rest of us.

  11. Frankly, your links support my point that the Senate haven't passed a budget since 2009 and each of them has had over $1,000,000,000,000 in deficit additions.

    You need to re-read each document. If you have trouble, press ctrl+F and look for the word "enacted." I know that "enacted" is not a word often used by Glenn Beck so if you're having trouble still, use http://www.dictionary.com

    If you do not find personal liberty to be a priority, you are no more Liberal (or Libertarian) than Ron Paul. You would rather leap at the "OMG OBAMAS GONNA TAKE OUR GUNS" specter than address any real issues.

  12. The simple fact is one person's rights end where they infringe on another's liberty.

    Unless they're gay or women, apparently.

    Well, that is your opinion.

    I have provided facts. You have not.

    Don't mistake the ease with which I refute the utter tripe that you have posted for anything resembling opinion. You have posted things which are the utter opposite of fact, not a difference of opinion. You can post them as much as you like, but you don't have a constitutional right to free speech on an internet forum and you do not have the right to not have your complete lies called out when you post them. Thanks for making another strawman attack, though. It solidifies your inability to discuss this issue like an adult to anybody who bothers to read this.

    And for those with very short memories, all of congress was controlled by the liberals the last few years of Bush's term. He didn't pass all that legislation, the likes of Pelosi and Reid did. They also haven't passed a budget in 3 years!

    And, see, this is what I was talking about. ZOMG HOW DOES BULLY PULPIT AND VETO WORK!?!?

    Here are the federal budgets of the last three years, all of which passed:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_States_federal_budget

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_federal_budget

  13. the fact that both of them clearly stated that one side is right, the other side is wrong -- and when someone challenges their statements, they ignore it and tout talking points like some prejudicial robot that runs on irrational anger.

    Understood. I would rather laugh at their ignorant rantings than ignore them. There are OTHER people who definitely deserve an ignore for trolling here, for sure, though.

  14. lol leilin, wait i never said i was a reliable source... but i didn't realize we had to quote reliable sources here.. i thought as long as we saw it somewhere or heard it once someplace than that was reliable enough.

    for example: i read somewhere once that 77% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

    You're crazy, lady. EVERYBODY knows that it's 63.5 percent of statistics that are made up on the sput. DUH!

  15. wait isn't it the republicans claiming social security is running out of money? pretty sure i've heard that out of the republican party many many times..... theres over 1 trillion dollars in the Social security fund and it is CONSTANTLY being added to......

    but what do i know.. i just work for them.....

    You're obviously a less reliable source than Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck.

    Marxists

    Every time you use that word with political masturbatory intent, a kitten dies.

    I write stories for myself.

    Not to belabor the obvious, but this explains your rather ardent attachment to political fiction.

  16. I just said no more attacks on people and further more why shouldn't he enjoy some down time he's as entitled to a vaction as you or me. also you haven't even considered the proof given on here showing he has had pleanty of experince with the real world. please can you at least try to avoide degenerating this discussion if your just going to complaim about my responing to you on the same level your using to insult Obama now

    See, attacks on Obama don't count because he's a seekrit radical Christian socialist marxist muslim who simultaneously is a do-nothing and is the "most liberal" activist, debt raising president ever. Or something.

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