[Adult Baby Cribs]

Hi Nikabdl,

I had a cot made for me last year. It`s based on a king size bed and can be coverted back to an ordinary bed or four poster.

I leave it as a cot most of the time and sleep in it every night. It is great because it does add to the baby feeling. For bedding i`ve got several sets from Next as they make some of there kids bedding in double size for some strange reason, not that i`m complaining. I`m having a cot bumper made at the moment. The links below should take you to pictures on my diaperspace page.

My cot.

Inside the cot.

baby D.

[Pampers For Adults]

Precious Baby David,

Chances are P&G will be more impressed when you type their corporate name Procter & Gamble

P&G has a different situation legally about adult diapers in North America than in the rest of the world. P&G started Attends as the first major brand of adult diapers. In the mid 1970s Attends took advantage of P&G inventions for Pampers, Baby Dry and Luvs. Years later, when the Depend brand of KCC became the best selling retail brand of adult diapers in the USA, P&G decided to sell the North American factories and brand of Attends to the former PaperPak Corporation, then known for making adult disposable health care products for hospitals and institutions. P&G already was pulling Attends out of retail stores. PaperPak had no experience marketing to the public. A few years ago PaperPak legally changed their corporate name to Attends Health Products.

My own legal research shows that as part of the sale of Attends to PaperPak, P&G agreed to stay out of the North America adult diaper business. For years I politely begged Pampers to make diapers larger than Size 6. Eventually they did make a longer baby active-wear diaper, the Pampers Cruiser Size 7. It is the same width. Size 7 is not sold in the UK.

Frustrated that P&G was ignoring my requests, on the advice of friends working for P&G, I paid a lot of money for the consultation services of Carlos Richer. He started making baby disposables in Latin America and has become the best respected baby diaper consultant. My husband and I were willing to buy a disposable factory if necessary. As a result of everything Sr. Richer taught me I did not buy a factory. I did get to know a lot of firms that do manufacture disposables, baby and adult, on contract. In fact world-wide hardly any of the big name brands still own their own factories. Pampers are made by contractors in several countries. So are the Attends sold outside North America.

P&G Pampers had to create a new diaper making machine for the Size 7. All the other baby diaper machines are at their size limit making Size 6. Only in theory can an adult diaper machine make disposables smaller than adult small. Most adult machines can only make medium and larger. Adult machines make about half as many diapers per hour and a modern baby diaper machine. Clearly when Cruisers Size 7 did not come close to meeting sales forecast, Pampers lost interest in spending money to create a machine to manufacture Size 8 and Size 9 which would have correctly fitted 80 pound people, Size 8 fitting people up to 65 pounds and down to less than 50 pounds, the upper limit of Size 6 and 7. Apparently the design of the Pampers in the larger sizes has been done. So has the engineering design of the new generation machine. Only a few prototype Size 8 and Size 9 were made using an old adult machine owned by a supplier to Pampers.

Since Pampers are made from raw material patented by P&G what I found was assuming I could adjust a machine to make my own Size 8 and Size 9, P&G would not allow me to buy the raw materials to have a diaper similar to a current Pampers. I believe the baby disposable business has changed since 1990. Having an old-fashioned size 8 with no stretch would be useless. They would be too small for ABDL and of no interest to parents.

In my experience even if you do polish the spelling and wording of your petition, P&G will refuse to read it. To avoid law suits P&G will not accept specific design suggestions. Just to make general requests you are required to sign legal waivers. Petitions by non-parent adults will not influence P&G. They cannot sell adult products in North America and feel in the rest of the world they are selling adult diapers as fast as they can make them.

KCC also makes Huggies and Depend. Clearly Depend do not benefit from Huggies inventions. KCC makes GoodNites/DryNights. Clearly they do not want to cut into that market by making smaller adult diapers.

Still, the very best of good wishes on your project.

Hi Angela,

Thank for your best wishes. You certainly know alot about pampers.

You are probably right and P&G will not be interested, but hell if you don`t try you don`t get anywhere anyway so I felt is was worth a shot! So like I am keep your fingers crossed and wait and see.

Regards David

[Pampers For Adults]

I really don't mean to offend, but the grammer is somewhat lacking in your statement and there are a couple of glaring typos on there. Whilst my SPG is not perfect, when writing something as important as this type of document, it's always best to have someone proof read it.

If you wish to pitch an idea to a company, you need to speak to them in a proffesional manner. They don't care about meeting peoples needs... They only care about taking money off people. Also what you have to realise is that the statement on the top of your petition represents everyone who signs it. I don't feel that your petition reflects my views enough to put my name on there.

Again, please don't take offence at what I have said... I seek only to help, not to demean!

Froggie

Hi Frogboy,

Yes i know my grammer is somewhat lacking, grammer is not my strong point, unfortunatly when i was in the infants i was taught ITA, so cat was spelt "kat". So when i went up into the juniors i had to start learning how to spell and write all over again again. End result bad English!

No offence taken by the way!

Regards David.

[Pampers For Adults]

Hallo ab/dl Community,

I have started an online Petition aimed at Proter & Gamble to get them to produce an adult sized Nappy for us! The more people i get to support this the better. If you would like to be able to get a Pampers nappy (diaper) made especially to fit you follow the link and sigh up!

http://www.petitiononline.com/db007/petition.html

If enough people sign up you never know they may think it makes good business sense to produce a range of nappies for us!

Regards Baby David

[How Did You First Become Interested In Nappies?]

Hi Everyone,

Sorry for the silent period, i joined the diaperspace website and got totally involved.

I hit an interesting online Petition site last night and have started and online Petetion to Procter & Gamble to get them to produce an Adult Pampers Diaper!

if you would like to support this, the link is:-

http://www.petitiononline.com/db007/petition.html

Lets hope we get them to make us some Diapers!

Regards David.

Ps:- Happy new Year!

[How Did You First Become Interested In Nappies?]

Hi Everyone,

Its` been interesting reading your reply`s.

It certainly seems that like myself a fair number of you started at a young age. I wonder if getting into the scene at a young age is more likely to make you an adult baby than a diaper lover? Going through puberty with a desire to wear nappies certainlt made it more of a fetish for me. I would describe myself as 50% adult baby and 50% diaper lover.

I`ve posted another article about what i get from wearing nappies( http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.php?showtopic=19171 ). It would be interesting to compare what you get out of wearing diapers with the age you begin to get into diapers. There are also number of people who have started by having to wear for protection because of bed wetting but then grow to like wearing diapers, i wonder if that is because they get something out of the wearing of diaper and therefore area more likely to become a diaper lover?

Regards David

[What Wearing Nappies Does For Me.]

What Wearing Nappies Does for me

I would describe myself as 50% adult baby and 50% diaper lover. Wearing nappies and baby girls clothes pushes so many button for me in lots of different ways some emotional and some sexual. I started to become interested in nappies at a young age, before puberty even. Then when I went through puberty the sexual aspect of wearing diapers got added to the feeling that I already had.

• Responsibility

I have a very responsible job where I’m answerable for the safety of thousands of people. To be able to come home, take off my uniform, put on a nappy and say goodbye to all adult responsibilities is a great feeling. As a toddler I’m in charge of nothing, I don’t have worry about anything.

• Control

Most people would say that babies and toddlers have no control over their lives and are completely under the control of their parents, and to some point this is true. They no power of what happens to them, what they eat when they bath or even when they go the toilet. To become a baby again means to give control of your life completely to another.

But on flip side to become a baby again means you are the centre of attention, you have everything done for you and are waited on hand and foot just like you were some eighteenth century royal. When a baby cries, mummy or daddy come running, so who’s in control really; The parents or the Baby. When a toddler misbehaves it’s mostly to get attention and they usually get it even if mean being spanked. But again who’s controlling who?

• Naughtiness

When we are children we are toilet trained. We get taught that it is right to use the toilet and that it is wrong to wet our pants. I can still just remember having an accident once because I had a bad stomach when I was about eight. Afterwards I felt so naughty because I had not made it to the toilet. I still get that feeling now, I’m a fully grown man but I still have “accidents

[How Did You First Become Interested In Nappies?]

It would be interesting to learn how others became interested or active in the AB/DL scene.

I don`t think I ever grew out of nappies from baby. I was toilet trained at the usual age and had no problems with bed wetting. In every way my upbringing was normal.

My parents are the kind of people who do not like to just throw things away, so my baby clothes including my terry nappies and plastic pants were kept in a spare draw in my room for some years after I had grown out of them. From an early age, of 4 or 5, I liked to get them out and feel & smell them. On one occasion the idea of trying the plastic pants on just popped into my head, from then on I was hooked.

When eventually they were sent to a jumble sale I felt that something was missing. I started to make my own plastic pants, rather crudely out of plastic bags, and I found a few of the nappies kept for dusters. I also found three of my original nappy pins, which I still have. I must have been about twelve when I first dared to wet one of my terry nappies, it felt great. As I reached my teens and had more money I started to buy the largest baby nappies I could. I then found a shop selling adult incontinence pads and since then I’ve not looked back.

I would describe myself as 50% AB and 50% DL. I use both disposable and reusable nappies when work and social life permit. I have a growing collection of baby girl clothes made for me locally. I`ve just moved into a new house and am decorating the master bedroom to look like a nursery. I am having a king size four poster bed made that with addition of sides can be turned into a cot.

To view my diapermates profile please hit this link:-

Baby-David