[Diapers After Giving Birth]

I guess wearing Depends after delivery is really really really common!

These women are raving about how wonderful it is to wear Depends and Adult Diapers after giving birth: http://www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/888765/depends-vs-pads-for-after-birth/80.

Have any of you done this or knew how common this was?

[Poopy Situation]

I can tell that most of you answering this question have not had extensive experience with babies. Yes, it's nicest to use a restroom when available and convenient. No, it's not always available or convenient. Some babies don't deal well with messy diapers and become immediately fussy. Some get rashes if they are not changed quickly. Others could care less. You could leave them in a messy diaper for hours and they won't complain. So a lot depends on the baby, and the situation. Diaper wipes can be used to clean hands after a diaper change, so you don't necessarily need a sink. And babies don't care if they are changed in public. So lighten up just a bit there and have some babies of your own to care for before you get too excited about changing in public. Just a suggestion.

Exactly what I was going to say! Thank you!

[Poopy Situation]

There is not always a restroom available so at times in public it's necessary than making them wait in it.

[Poopy Situation]

I am wondering what the DL community's opinion on this would be. How do you feel about a baby/toddler being changed in public with a poopy diaper? Or especially on a plane? I babysit and I've done this before but I was wondering what an ABDL's opinion on it would be.

[We'Re Reading An Abdl Book In My Class]

yes i can delte my posts as well..... oh well..... good thing DD can see all messages that are sent, and all deleted posts.... always nice how that works isn't it?????

Sarah_Ab I don't know why you are being hostile. Although, please try to stay on topic if you continue to post here. Thank you and have a good day.

[We'Re Reading An Abdl Book In My Class]

Beachbnuni, please either ask everyone who posted 'off topic' to make posts on topic..

or i will consider you personally harassing me and will have to take legal action against your harassment.

thank you

and have a nice day.

Excuse me what are you talking about? Also, please stop messaging me, sarah_ab. Have a nice day.

[We'Re Reading An Abdl Book In My Class]

I haven't read hitchikers but I saw the movie and I enjoyed it!

[Sex Ratio...]

beachxbunni123, they way you are typing makes me feel that you don't view a transgender individual as a person. Why don't you come down from your soap box?

I have only read *parts* of page 3.

That is false. Again, I suggest you read page 3 in order to avoid making false accusations in your post. EDIT: Thank you for acknowledging your false accusation in your post.

I chose the wrong words. Not less human. Intolerant of others.

If you had read page 3, you wouldn't have made that false accusation and would have found I have previously specifically stated …

One thing that's necessary to mention is that TRANSGENDERED are NOT LESS of a human! Just because one has a genetic mutation of some sort it does NOT make them not normal!

Edit: we are talking about gender, right? Gender is a fluid construct. The point is that I am not trying to debate about who is in what category. Assigning people into a category is WRONG.

Again, false. According to the law today, a body is identified as A. Male or B. Female. If you disagree with the law, then I suggest you speak with your local offical about it.

[Sex Ratio...]

I have only read *parts* of page 3. WTF does it matter to you if they claim to be women. IMO they are women.

Well maybe you should read page 3 in order to avoid making false accusations in your post.

What if you were born in the wrong body? What if you were satisfied with your body and someone told you that it was wrong? How would that make you feel?

If someone felt they were born in the wrong body, I don't feel they should personally mutliate the genitalia that they were born with (Unless they were born hermaphrodites or intersex which constitutes as a medical reason). If someone said that they were 'born in the wrong species' and felt they were more cat-like do you think they should mutilate themselves to look like a cat? No. If someone does have issues with their body, then they need to talk to a professional and get the help they need--which they deserve! Just because an transgender suffers from emotional issues and intersex/hermaphrodites suffer from physical issues they need to realize that they will and can get help and are loved!

[Sex Ratio...]

Your ignorance is showing dearies Let me educate you with some truth DNA doers not delineate sex or gender- it shows none of that. Chromosomes are far more than XX or XY; in fact there are 36 known chromosomal variations in what is considered to be of both sexes. There are many persons who were born with a body that had 'female' organs, looked 'female' from outside, developed as 'female' during puberty, but have no ability to bear children because of their chromosomes, which do not follow the normal 'female' pattern of XX Using your logic they cannot be female- i just hope their heterosexual husband happens to be there when you tell him he married a guy- I do like seeing people get what they deserve

What you have not considered is that many Transpeople are Intersex, having both male and female parts (inside and outside) throughout the entire spectrum of possibilities- and they were born this way I know people with both a penis and a vagina- one has gonads and ovaries too. Now pray tell, in your error-filled mind, which are these persons- male or female? According to you they have to be one or the other- and if they have surgery that doesn't change so then you have the possibilities of a woman with a penis or a man with a vagina or a woman with a vagina or a man with a penis- and nothing else is possible. Whatever your choice of your four possible answers is, you are very obviously going to be wrong Thus your precepts must be in error, because there has to be a correct answer to every question. In other words, your way of thinking is wrong from the start which has led you to erroneous conclusions from that point forward

Consider the many cases of babies born with physical birth defects which are surgically corrected at some point after birth. Is this person still a 'freak of nature' to you, even though you can't tell there was ever an issue to be resolved? And what of women who have breast reconstruction after cancer- since they no longer have what they were born with they cannot be a woman any longer. Or women whose bodies do not produce estrogen (either from birth or post-menopause)- can they still be a woman? Not since they aren't complete if I use your flawed logic to determine that.

You speak ignorantly on matters of which you know little, and the little which you think that you know isn't true Persons with all the physical and mental aspects of women are born with penises on a routine basis, and they are surgically altered from very early after birth to points much later in life in order to 'correct the defect'. I won't even go into the many documented cases where the doctors ended up removing the penis from males and ruined their lives because of this kind of ignorance. I will point out, however, that there are also many cases where such 'penis bearing females' only discovered the 'defect' after the age where puberty was expected, then had the 'corrective' surgery at that point. Which are these persons- male because of the penis they were born with? Then explain how people like this give live birth to children! Which are they if this surgery was done shortly after birth versus later on in life? Judging from what you say here, these are not women so the men who married them must be gay, and the families these couples bore do not exist but are figments of everyone's imagination since we know that only women give birth. And what of the sterile women, whose chromosomes are not XX, but one of the 35 other known variations, some of which leave women infertile? Are they not 'real women' because of that? Or how about women with the XXY chromosome pattern who give birth to live young- since they have the "Y" chromosome they can't be a woman using your logic. Your logic is very flawed and your position untenable except under the premise of refutation of fact as being a proper viability.

You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to proclaim it to be fact if you can't prove that it is- and this time the proof points in a different direction. Personally I don't care whether a person is male, female, both, or neither- to me we are all the same born of one species with a whole spectrum of possible genders and possible sexes- not just two. I am intelligent enough to know that I can't define who or what someone else is and always be right, so I choose to not define who or what anyone is- then I'm right every time IMHO It's a far better way to be.

Bettypooh

Sorry Bettypooh but I'm going to have to disagree with you. According to society and our world, one is identified as either A. Male or B. Female. For example, when they have to identify bodies of people, they either identify them as MALE or FEMALE. It it totally your choice and your right if you would like to be gay, cross dress, or even get cosmetic surgery to make you appear to look more 'feminine'... but this does not mean that you are CHANGING your gender, you are rather 'mutilating' it (Again I am NOT at all trying to be harsh). There are 2 genders: male and female, the intersex cases that you are talking about are genetic mutations-- a medical dysfunction that's not supposed happen that way. If there is no medical dysfunction and one still wants to mutliate their body I consider that a distorted way of thinking. Again I am not being harsh, I support those with genetic dysfunctions having operations though-- same as someone would have a breast augmentation if they had undergone a masectomy.

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One thing that's necessary to mention is that TRANSGENDERED are NOT LESS of a human! Just because one has a genetic mutation of some sort it does NOT make them not normal! To say that a human with genetic issues isn't normal is the equivalent of saying people diagnosed with cancer aren't normal and not only is that a ludicrous, incorrect way of thing but it's outlandish, immoral, and ultimately wrong! For some people on here to say that a transgendered or a hermaphrodite is "not normal" is wrong, inappropriate, and that behavior is not tolerated.

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I didn't say I was a biological female. I said I was a real girl.

Real means to exist, and I do.

Nice try, tho!

Of course you exist, no one said you didn't! But that doesn't make a transgender a biological female. Again: Let's put it this way... Would you call someone who had a breast augmentation/"boob job" someone with NATURAL breasts? No! Okay... so would you call someone who is a transgendered female a BIOLOGICAL female? No! CASE CLOSED!

[Sex Ratio...]

But I am a female, I am a woman and I am a daughter.

So silly ♥

Let's put it this way... Would you call someone who had a breast augmentation/"boob job" someone with NATURAL breasts? No! Okay... so would you call someone who is a transgendered female a BIOLOGICAL female? No! CASE CLOSED!

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well i sincerely apologize if my replies to some of your posts are interpreted by you as rude or sarcastic or hostile.

Thank you for your apology, I appreciate you doing that and I really enjoy a lot of the posts you make .

[Books]

What types of books do you guys like to read for fun/pleasure?

[We'Re Reading An Abdl Book In My Class]

In my class, we have been reading the book Beloved by Toni Morrison. Have any of you read it or seen the Oprah Movie? It is really weird. It is about a mother's baby that died and it's ghost came back to life as an woman in her 20s that totally acts like a baby. It is so weird!

[Sex Ratio...]

I really don't know of any other actual girls on this site other than myself lol.

[Dummies/Pacifiers And Teeth]

If you were to sleep with it every night it can do damage. It would be sort of like a retainer and could shift your teeth out of the right places. Just don't do it for a long period of time at once

[Relationships]

Nice poll. Interesting to see the results.

[Wonderful Scent In An Unexpected Place]

Cool. What are you doing classroom observations for?

[Breaking The Ice]

Browse Fetlife together, see what he likes and when you get to an AB picture or a daddy daughter group, make a positive comment

Call him daddy during a spanking

when tied up, have an accident or suggest diapers before a long scene.

Nice tips! Thanks!

[Breaking The Ice]

This is super difficult. I think it's pretty much impossible to share this type of secret and have it be a positive thing, unless your partner is into a similarly kinky thing. So, it depends on the type of BDSM he is into. It's a spectrum. If he is into some seriously kinky shit, and you indulge him a bit, I highly doubt it would much of a problem to introduce your own fetish to him. If he is just into some light spanking with handcuffs (this can hardly be considered BDSM it's so vanilla) then it's unlikely he will react positively. So it depends.

You can also talk about ABDL as it sits within the BDSM spectrum. Relate it to being submissive and losing control, and he may understand where you are coming from. But, if you both end up being bottoms (if he likes to take the submissive BDSM role, just like you do in the ABDL sense) you may have a trickier dynamic.

Well, he is extremely aggressive and dominant and told me that he is into not only the pain in BDSM, but the 'other part', and always wants to tie me up.

Also, one time I played this online role playing game called LOTRO (Lord of the Rings Online) just for like a week or 2 to try it (to prove to him that I can understand how to play geek games lol) and in that game you can 'adopt' people as your child or parent and it shows up in their name title that they are NAME's Daughter/Father (which I thought was odd since it was sort of ABDL in that game). Most people don't ADOPT others unless it's their real life son/daughter playing the game with them though. So what happened was I joined a kinship and one of the older leaders and I thought it would just be funny to try and he 'adopted' me as their child and my SO saw it and said that he thought that was "really, really cute" that I have an in-game 'Daddy'. But I could tell he was really upset and jealous about it so I unadopted him lol.

[Breaking The Ice]

Actually, I gave you the best, most accurate response. Youre the only one in this thread that knows this person, and if the relationship is as developed as you suggest, then you already know this persons moral and ethical views, as well as thief take on kinks, quirks, and generally how they perceive people.

Youre not looking for a way to tell them. You're looking for courage and bolstering from other people. Which is fine. We all need support.

So if you ask for jnput, and you get it (which you did), and then Respond that you don't think anyone will ever accept some one with this kink... You obvoliously are asking for the wrong reason.

Btw, never once did a partner reject me for my kink. I knew the people and I knew how to express myself to be best received. Which is exactly the advice I gave you.

As a matter of fact, I AM looking for a way to 'Break the Ice' on this topic (hence as to why I started this post) and suggetsions on giving hints. Also, it is reasonable to say that not a lot of people have an understanding on this kink. Nonetheless, I appreciate your perspective and experienced advice.

[Breaking The Ice]

if your SO is into bdsm, and you listen to him when he came out about it. he should be more than willing to hear your story also. let him know that the two things are closely related and can go together very well. as far as "breaking the ice" i would suggest that you get him talking about bdsm then mention that you to have desires that can play into it also. then if your AB, explain the dynamics of a daddy/lg relationship compared to a dom/sub relationship. he may like the idea of him having the power and treating you as his "little girl" good luck and hope it works out for you.

That's such sweet advice! Thank you so much.

[Breaking The Ice]

Just be honest with them and say, after all they have told you there secret.

I understand but it is not that easy for people to open up about being an ABDL. Telling your significant other you're into ABDL is far more of a shock than hearing someone come out as gay.

[Breaking The Ice]

Ok. If that's your view... Then dont tell. Why would you even ask?

Simply, if you don't want to post advice... Then don't tell.

If your SO is a guy, you have being a girl in your favor. It seems guys are more accepting of a girls "quirks" than the other way around.

I wouldn't, however, suggest just popping it out if you've been with them for a "long time", but if that's what they just did to you with their BDSM interests then maybe all is fair in this case.

Good luck.

I love hearing insight such as this. Thanks!

[Breaking The Ice]

If you've been with them a long time, then you know them... Certainly better than any of us.

Just do it with how you feel they'd be most receptive.

I don't feel anyone would be receptive to learning that their significant other is an ABDL.

[Breaking The Ice]

Say that your partner came out about their BDSM fantasies to you, yet you have not told them your secret desire... How do you tell that certain someone that you've been with for a long time that you are an ABDL? Do you give hints during BDSM play or do you just 'break the ice' and 'come out' about it (If so, explain why you believe so.) Thanks!