I see your point, not all men treat ladies with no respect.  I too was brought up to hold open doors for the ladies and when I chat with one, it's not about me wanting sex or for them to baby me and all that.  It's good intelligent conversation on many topics, just as if I was talking with someone at a party for the first time.  That said, I don't think anyone here can disagree that many of the guys are plain creeps when it comes to women.  The way they talk to them and badger them about sex and