Scoring the night's wetting (trial scale 1-10 for thoughts and feedback)

[dlmolicares]

Starting this as a new topic as user Boyhood and I were developing it within another thread and I thought it might benefit from it's own.

For those who want to measure progress, or simply for those who want to describe their current state, a scale like this might be helpful.

Of course, there is also merit to NOT tracking at all as many of you know (intently tracking can ironically make untraining harder)

Here's the scale, and putting it here to get everyone elses ideas. Maybe then we could drop it in the survey section.

Noting this is only along a single vector of the bedwetting + training experience- solely the outcome. In other words, it's not scoring other interesting pieces such as night time routine, social acceptance of your wetting, psychological barriers, if (or what type) of diapers you use etc. Those other pieces could likewise be scored but this is only the outcome.

Survey question 1: On a scale of 1-10 how would you describe last night's bedwetting?

• Example: Last night was an 8 score. I definitely wet, and sort of vaguely recall letting go of my bladder but I'm not sure if I really remember doing that or maybe just think I remembered doing it.

Survey question 2: Over the last 10 nights, what mix of scores (wetting profile) have you had?

• Example: Over like 10 nights, I'll usually have 1-2 score 10. Maybe 3 nights score 8, 3 nights score 6 and sometimes I have a couple of nights score 5. Scoring 3 is rare- maybe once every month or two at most

Scale for answering the above:

10: I awoke soaked and have absolutely no memory of having gone (whether it's awakening in the middle of the night or in the morning)

8: In awoke soaked but, looking back on the night, I think I may have remembered being up and wetting. Not sure if I actually was awake. If I was awake, not sure if it was before or after starting to wet. It's like tracking back through the fog to try and remember, but I sort of remember something.

6: I awoke soaked, but looking back on the night I remember being awake and starting to go. I am unsure if I fell back asleep before or after I was done wetting. I am unsure if I could have stopped the wetting (even though I remember being vaguely awake when I started it)

5: I was definitely awake in the middle of the night, felt my bladder full and decided to start wetting. I recall enjoying the feeling, then falling asleep when I was done.

3: I awoke in the AM to get up for the day, saw that I stayed dry and my bladder feels full.

1: I awoke in the middle of the night to get up and use the restroom

Thanks to user Boyhood for the feedback on the initial scale and hopefully others have good suggestions too

[justforfun]

3 hours ago, dlmolicares said:

 

3: I awoke in the AM to get up for the day, saw that I stayed dry and my bladder feels full.

1: I awoke in the middle of the night to get up and use the restroom

Maybe it makes sense to switch those?  Waking In the AM dry means there was never a need to relieve yourself, and 'all systems are nominal.' On the other hand, waking in the middle of the night to use the restroom means there was a need that is not 'normal' (depending on your age 😂), which might lead to simply wetting the bed.

Anyway, for the second question I have a mix of all of those, although 10 is by far the most common.

[WBxx]

Survey question 1: On a scale of 1-10 how would you describe last night's bedwetting?
10 – Woke wet with absolutely no memory of the incident(s).

Survey question 2: Over the last 10 nights, what mix of scores (wetting profile) have you had?
Nine 10’s and a 6 – With the 6 I woke dry early in the night and began to wet.  That was my last awareness till morning when I woke much wetter than the remembered wetting.

Should add the last ten days have been much better (wetter) than average.

[longislandguy]

I’ll join in the fun. Day 1: 10. Although wet, not soaked. 

[chomper]

I've only started my bedwetting journey recently, and I have been drawn to some form of wetting tracking. I generally like the way this scale works, I think description of 5 is a really good midpoint to the scale. I think it might need to be slightly altered to fit different people's habits, for example I have occasionally begun wetting while asleep, and quickly woke up and stopped because I was only wearing underwear, which I would interpret as like a 7.

Survey question 1: How would you describe last night's bedwetting? - 1 (wasn't diapered, woke up multiple times to go pee).

Survey question 2: Wetting Profile over the last 10 nights:

• Seven nights in the 1-3 range (don't remember which nights I got up to pee)
• Two nights of 5
• One night of 7 (woke up after I began wetting)

[longislandguy]

Night 2:  gotta give myself an 8. I kind of(?) remember waking at some point to wet but in the morning I was totally soaked. I mean, to the point that when I woke up, I had leaked on my pajamas and my pubic hair was completely soaked and my peen was still very wet as the sap was full. So, I clearly wet during the night as well. Well, I’ve wanted my night wettings to be heavier…..looks like I got it last night. 

[Badbunny]

I've been floating between 10, 8 and 6 in the past few weeks. I'm back at the point again now I won't go to bed without wearing a diaper. 

[longislandguy]

Day 3:  is a 10. Woke up wet again. Not a soaker, but certainly wet. 4 days in a row ties the record  for me. Hmm. Getting closer to considering myself a bedwetter. 

[chomper]

Day 2: 6 - I remember wetting very easily, but I'm not sure if I was awake when I started wetting.

Day 3: 1 - Wore a lower-capacity diaper and my body did not trust it at all. Will not use it moving forward.

[Badbunny]

Last night was a 10. No memory of it happening. 

[southerndl]

Last night was a 5.  I woke up 2 times to wet and went right back to sleep.  

[longislandguy]

Meh. My streak ended at 4 days. Woke up dry. A three on day 4. 

[southerndl]

3 hours ago, longislandguy said:

Meh. My streak ended at 4 days. Woke up dry. A three on day 4. 

Bummer.  Maybe tomorrow!  

[chomper]

Last night (night 4) was a 5 for me.

[longislandguy]

Giving myself a 10 for day 5. 5 wet mornings out of the last 6. Showing progress!!

[southerndl]

Another 5 for me.  Woke up, wet and went right back to sleep.  

[chomper]

Night Five - just a 1 this time. Didn't drink water before sleep, didn't pad up, so my body didn't really need to go apparently.

[ryan87]

This is a great idea for a scale, I've been logging my own bedwetting just using descriptory abbreviations but a score would be easier to track trends and such over time.

[Little Sherri]

Last night was a 6, which is a bit of a relief, because I'm on a business trip and staying in a hotel. 10's often happen to me in precisely these circumstances, because the Universe has a sense of humour. 10-rated nights are dangerous for me, because they are the nights when I'm at the greatest risk of a diaper loss of containment. The worst incident of this that I have experienced to date happened when I was sleeping at a rented cottage. I had been drinking beer, and after I fell asleep, I flooded my diaper, and the bedding, prolifically, because I wet while in a near-coma, and in a bad physical position - tummy down. I woke up with zero memory of the event, extravagantly wet, and then did laundry at 4 AM like James Bond sneaking into a villain's lair, because I was sharing the cottage with 5 other people. 

I would probably create a category between 8 and 10 (let's call be crazy and call it 9), for my most "enjoyable" (at least philosophically) wettings, which are characterized by my waking up wet, with no memory of how it happened, but, the wetting pattern indicates that at some point, I rolled over before I did permissioned the emission. I usually sleep on my tummy or my side, but when I was developing (or redeveloping) the habit of wetting while in bed, I used to wake up feeling a need to pee, then I'd roll onto my back, give the guards a thumbs up to open the gate, and then I'd fall right back to sleep. Then, it progressed to not remembering having done that, but waking up to evidence that it had happened. At some point, my subconscious took over having me reposition when I had to pee. Those are the ones I like.

The ones where I wake up with evidence that my subconscious also slept through the event, are often the ones where I have laundry to do. Unless I'm wearing cloth diapers, but I don't take cloth diapers with me to hotels. 

[longislandguy]

Day 6:  a 10. Woke up 4 hours after going to sleep. Surprise to see I was already wet. Not a soaker, my pubes were still dry, but still pretty wet. 6 nights out of the last 7.  Don’t consider myself a bedwetter yet but that HAS to be progress. 

[southerndl]

Definitely an 8!  Or I think, lol.  I woke up in the middle of the night and was already wetting - at least that’s how I remember it.  Went right back to sleep.  I was quite happy when I woke up.  🙂

[chomper]

Day 6: got a 5! I remember waking up to go, wetting a good amount a couple times. Not going to lie, I'm a little jealous of the higher scores I'm seeing here 😆

6 hours ago, longislandguy said:

Day 6:  a 10. Woke up 4 hours after going to sleep. Surprise to see I was already wet. Not a soaker, my pubes were still dry, but still pretty wet. 6 nights out of the last 7.  Don’t consider myself a bedwetter yet but that HAS to be progress. 

I'd say! Congrats on scoring so high 6 out of 7 nights!

[longislandguy]

Day 7 of 10:  have to give myself a disappointing 5. I remember waking up and wetting then going back to sleep. When I woke up I was absolutely soaked to the point of having damp pubes and pajamas. I don’t know if I wet again while I was back asleep, but I can’t give myself a gold star last night since I’m not sure. I’m annoyed that I don’t know, and more annoyed that I broke my modest streak. 

[dlmolicares]

1 hour ago, longislandguy said:

Day 7 of 10:  have to give myself a disappointing 5. I remember waking up and wetting then going back to sleep. When I woke up I was absolutely soaked to the point of having damp pubes and pajamas. I don’t know if I wet again while I was back asleep, but I can’t give myself a gold star last night since I’m not sure. I’m annoyed that I don’t know, and more annoyed that I broke my modest streak. 

OK, this is going to sound ironic from the guy who just posted this whole scoring system thing, but in some ways, sometimes it's better NOT to track. For context, I was very open with my therapist when I began this journey and she was helpful with supporting the efforts to untrain.

One of the more impactful bits of advice she had was to learn to "be OK no matter what" Meaning: on mornings I awaken having wet in my sleep take a moment to enjoy the moment and the progress... but on nights where I ended up dry, simply go about my day knowing the next night will be another night.

When she told me this, I realized that all of my precise tracking was actually setting up an internal psych dynamic where dry was a failure to achieve the goal. This then led to some conscious (and subconcisious?) stressors around sleep and the overall goal of becoming a wetter.

It was freeing to not have to feel the night was a failure if I was dry, and paradoxically made it easier to have "wet" nights become a thing.

Just my 2 cents, each out our journeys are different. Sharing what I can knowing it may help others :>

[southerndl]

A 5 for me.