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2 hours ago, Darkfinn said:

4 diapers a day? What brand are you using? I can make it through a typical day with 3 Dry 24/7s and can cut that to 2 by using my cloth diapers at night.

It isn't about the brand, it is about timing to control odor, leaks, and skin issues. The day starts in the morning after I shower. Diaper #1 until lunchtime. Diaper number 2 until I get off work. Diaper #3 is in the evening. Then diaper #4 and 1 or 2 waterproof pads to prevent leaks on the sides. I will usually shower sometime in the evening.

For the last few years, I've been using NorthShore. The last month I've been using Better Dry. I can stretch the Better Drys but only do so in the evening. 

If I don't change and noon, by the late in the day, absorbent material clumping, leaks, odor, and skin issues start to be possible. Generally while the diaper may hold urine ok, it isn't comfortable by 5pm. If I have to stay late or have a long drive, I absolutely must change. It is better to just change at noon and be set for up to 8 hours or even more if pressed. I tend to urinate more in the late morning and afternoon. 

I've tried everything I could think of to work out a method of operation to keep my condition private, manageable, and comfortable. It seems to work well. No skin issue, odor control is not an issue and I haven't had a real leak during the day in years. (Long drives at the end of the day are still a work in progress but are usually dry.) 

While 4 diapers is the norm, if there is a heavy leak at night, it will mean and additional night diaper. 

In 15 years, I've tried everything to work out a system to manage incontinence and I think it works well. I wish it didn't cost as much but I don't want to advertise that I'm incontinent.

Cloth diapers are not comfortable at all. You always feel wet, They will always leak at night and the odor can permeate skin and hair. Skin issues will occur especially in warmer weather. And since cloth diapers have zero odor control or wicking, it doesn't make for any sort of sexual spontaneity. Wet cloth also has a fit issue where it promotes and erection but also blocks urine release. This has cause painful problems with sudden spasmodic voids. 

I just realized a missing piece to the puzzle. I also release seminal fluid as well as urine. Combine the 2 with sweat in plastic pants and the odor concern is real. 

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So you are incontinent and have to pay for everything?

My estimate is with 2-3 diapers a day, can't remember ever needing 4 diapers and 3 not so often either

On off-days I manage with just 1 diaper, if using something like ABU Simple and no need to go out when wet/soaked

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8 hours ago, Dubious said:

So you are incontinent and have to pay for everything?

My estimate is with 2-3 diapers a day, can't remember ever needing 4 diapers and 3 not so often either

On off-days I manage with just 1 diaper, if using something like ABU Simple and no need to go out when wet/soaked

I use 2 possibly 3 a day and one at night.

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I'd likely change at work in the afternoon as by then odors and padding falling apart can sometimes be an issue, but the bigger issues of having no good place to change, disposal problems, and the unnecessary cost increases kind of over-ride that. Each of us has to balance out our wearing in the way which is least troublesome and most beneficial to us, and that will vary from others. The world at large constrains us to some degree if you want to be a part of it, which I do. Were I wealthy enough to no longer need a job I'd certainly be taking a different approach as I despise being constrained. It's just something I have to live with until I win the lottery :P

Bettypooh

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On 6/17/2018 at 7:14 AM, Bettypooh said:

I'd likely change at work in the afternoon as by then odors and padding falling apart can sometimes be an issue, but the bigger issues of having no good place to change, disposal problems, and the unnecessary cost increases kind of over-ride that. Each of us has to balance out our wearing in the way which is least troublesome and most beneficial to us, and that will vary from others. The world at large constrains us to some degree if you want to be a part of it, which I do. Were I wealthy enough to no longer need a job I'd certainly be taking a different approach as I despise being constrained. It's just something I have to live with until I win the lottery :P

Bettypooh

Vary rarely do I change when at work but I have in a pinch. Otherwise it is very easy to do at Sheetz gas stations, Starbucks, or similar.

Sure, I could go the entire work day with one diaper, it would probably be ok but I need to know for sure. And one diaper just isn't comfortable after 8-9 hours. I'd rater not have the be distracted by a wet or uncomfortable diaper. 

The cost is what it is and I don't know who else could or should pay for my needs. It is a lesson on having effective legal help BEFORE you needing it and knowing exactly what to do after even a minor accident. I assumed the insurance company would "handle it" but that wasn't the case. I also waited too long to talk to a good personal injury lawyer and found out that i should have established a better medical case from the beginning.

I pay for my supplies from my HSA account so at least it is pre-tax money. While my income is low 6 figures, it sill is a chunk of change I'd rather use or invest elsewhere. 

What I've come to realize is that this is a cost burden I'll have to maintain for at least 20 more years. Even if my condition improves, and it has improved at times, its return is usually sudden and without warning. At home, I can chance it but not at work. If it became known I wore diapers it probably wouldn't be too big of a deal but wetting my pants is something else. Ageism is very, very real.  

Though it is less than what many people spend on coffee every day so I don't really worry about it. The solution to financial pressure is to make more income. 

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On 6/17/2018 at 8:33 AM, ThomasInWVa said:

 The solution to financial pressure is to make more income. 

LOL! I wish it were as easily done as it is said :P Part  of my career-worth is my knowledge, part is my developed talent, and part is my ability to create more work output than most folks in my field. Time and age is taking the last part away more rapidly than I ever thought was possible :( At the end of a tough day I nearly collapse when I get home, and the average days leave me just enough energy to get a few chores done at best before falling down exhausted :o My situation should have been a lot better than this by now but bad choices and the economy have left me in a situation I can't get out of now. I can file for SS in 4 years which is my only salvation- that will let me pass on the work which is tough on me and let me have more energy for the things I'm better at. But I'll be working till the day I die :rolleyes: I don't mind that so much really; people today donh't realize that retirement is a relatively new concept which happens only in wealthy environments. In much of the world and in much of history everyone worked till the end because they had to. And to have diapers makes that even more necessary for me.

I live a lifestyle where I can get by on what the average person in America wastes of their income. I'm happy like this, really. But those who "need"  high-speed internet, fast computers for gaming, expensiuve data plans for their phones, cable TV, and yes even air conditioning are all going to be miserable when they retire and discover that what they thought would be enough isn't:crybaby: I lost a friend about ten years ago who retired at 70 with a million doillars in the bank and no debts. In 5 years half of that was gone because they spent to get what they wanted in retierement till they came to realize that they couldn't :blink: I have friends now who seems to think keeping their large 4 bedroom home is a great idea when there's just the two of them living in it. She still works makinbg decent wages but when that ends they won't be able to maintain that home, much less their relatiively modest lifestyle. One of my sister's is living in my Mom's old home, unable to pay for the roof which should be replaced because neither her or her daughter has a good work ethic and their "need" for two cars, cable TV, tons of snack foods, and paying others to do things they don't like to do such as cut the grass. That with Mom having left them a good riding mower too. I see some very miserable people ahead and I try to get them to understand that but they just don't get it :angry: You'd damn well better be stashing away all the money you can while you can make it, because the day is coming when you'll really need it, especially when you have an expensive need like diapers to contend with when you no longer have the ability to raise your income :whistling: Insurance policies can change coverage, pension funds can go broke, bad investments happen to even the smartest investors. Even Veteran's and governmenrt employee benefits can and do change over time, as will national health care coverage for those who have it should there be a national economic crisis. Nothing is certain but cash and even that gets eaten up by inflation.

So yeah, if you need diapers or are considering making yourself need them, it's a hugely more serious matter than it might seem to be at first glance when you get old, and you'd better be preparing for it because that expense might not be possible for you someday  ;)

Bettypooh

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On 6/20/2018 at 5:41 AM, Bettypooh said:

LOL! I wish it were as easily done as it is said :P 

 

Betty,

I was being a bit caviler with that phrase but I also firmly believe it. You can’t save to prosperity or limit anything into an abundance. The only way to have more is to produce more.

I do recognize that this is not always easy and for some, it seems outright impossible. The ramp up to beginning to produce is too high for many. They are only able to look around and see nothing but insurmountable problems. And they are real problems. It takes an enormous amount of personal energy and positivity to overcome problems.

And no, I’m not always Mr. Optimistic. Thankfully, I’m still able to pull myself out of a personal funk when needed. But the reality is that as we get older, the harder it will probably be. So the time to prepare is now.

Financially, We’ve been preparing for my retirement (in about 15 years or so) for a long time. We should be ok. About 8 years ago we started to increase the amount we put away. I do expect to be able to reduce the cost for my incontinence supplies once I retire. It has been part of our fiscal planning as well as other possible health care costs.

I do what I can to pull in extra income by consulting and programming as well as some self-directed investing. All of it is put towards the future.

Once I realized I messed up on any legal recourse, I decided I needed to be very proactive for the future. Not much value in self pity or self loathing. I’m just not wired to be a victim which I’m very aware is a major advantage.

I firmly believe in keeping things simple and not trying to keep up with the Jones’. Sure, I can currently afford high-speed Internet and it is a priority for my work. But we don’t do cable TV. And we have forgone yearly vacations and wanton spending. Simple cost effective clothes is better than spending needlessly. We can look professional without breaking the bank. We also use non-flashy cars. In other words, we live well but simply. I came from a lower middle class family that lived simply. My wife was super poor. She understands the value is not spending needlessly. She has very pragmatic tastes and fiscal sense. In many ways too much. It took a while to get her to realize that we can get quality instead of cheap when it matters.

We both have relatives who don’t ascribe to the same values. Dozens of shoes never worn, going to clubs, spending on yet more useless degrees and inuring more debt, having to have some high-end car and clothes. Get-rich-quick-schemes, etc. In a few years it is going to get ugly.

We firmly expect that once we reach retirement age that everything we expect will be upset. As the younger generation gets into a position of power, I expect them to plunder our retirement and savings and as socialism is pushed onto America the economy we will be in for a long, possibly a generation, of economic depression. I doubt we’ll live to see the end of it. I do not expect socialize medicine or medial care to be available.

 

e have some land and a very modest “vacation” cabin in a part of West Virgina that will probably stay rural for centuries with no economic prospects of any kind. If needed be we could live there with a very modest income or savings - even in advance age. I’m keeping an eye on the social scene and if looks like things are going to shift, we plan to liquidate our holdings and see what happens. Basically it is a hedge against runaway inflation or the plunder of our retirement accounts.

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